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by Sebastian Dienst
The Initiation is a podcast for those who sense the gravity and possibility of this moment in human history - a threshold marked by converging crises and a call to rise to the occasion. As exponential technologies accelerate, the global monetary system strains, climate disruption intensifies, and geopolitical orders shift - humanity stands on the edge of something vast and unknown. Each episode unpacks the forces reshaping our world and the inner shifts needed to meet them with clarity, courage, and wisdom. This is our collective rite of passage. Welcome to The Initiation.
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- 6 days ago1h 17m
#26 John Vervaeke: The Meaning Crisis and the Return of the Sacred
What if the crises threatening our civilisation are not just political, economic or ecological but symptoms of something much deeper: a loss of meaning?John Vervaeke is a cognitive scientist, philosopher and one of the leading thinkers exploring the meaning crisis of modern civilisation. Through his influential lecture series Awakening from the Meaning Crisis, he examines how the erosion of shared meaning, wisdom and spiritual traditions has left modern societies increasingly disconnected from themselves, each other and the world.In this conversation, we explore how the collapse of meaning and trust may be amplifying the wider metacrisis - from political polarisation and ecological breakdown to the growing disruption of artificial intelligence.But John also sees something else emerging.What he calls “the advent of the sacred” - the possibility that, as our old ways of understanding reality begin to unravel, new forms of wisdom, connection and collective transformation are struggling to be born.In this conversation, we explore:Why the meaning crisis may be one of the deepest challenges facing modern civilisationHow the collapse of shared meaning is fuelling a wider crisis of trust in institutions and each otherWhy meaning is a fundamental human need — and how its absence can make us more rigid, fearful and self-centredHow the loss of religious traditions has left a gap in our ability to cultivate wisdom, belonging and transcendenceWhy solving the metacrisis requires more than technological innovation or better political systemsWhat John means by the “advent of the sacred” and why new forms of spirituality and community may be emergingWhy humanity may be facing a “civilisational koan” — a challenge that cannot be solved through ideas alone, but requires a transformation of who we areHow ancient wisdom traditions, modern cognitive science and new ways of relating to reality might come togetherWhy the future cannot simply be a return to the past — or an engineered utopiaWhat the transformation from caterpillar to butterfly might reveal about humanity's own evolutionary thresholdWhether the breakdown of our existing systems could create the conditions for an entirely new kind of civilisationAnd why the future of humanity may depend on our ability to rediscover the sacred in everyday lifeJohn suggests that we may be living through a rare moment in history - one in which the frameworks that shaped modern civilisation are beginning to lose their hold, while something genuinely new is emerging in their place.Yet this transformation is far from guaranteed. The same forces that could open the door to a new era of human flourishing could also lead towards deeper fragmentation and collapse.Ultimately, this is a conversation about what happens when the stories that once gave our lives meaning begin to fall apart - and whether the crises of our time might be inviting us into a fundamentally different way of being human.Could the breakdown of the old world be the beginning of a new relationship with reality itself?If you enjoy The Initiation, please subscribe on Spotify, Apple Podcasts or YouTube, and share the episode with someone who might resonate with this conversation.And for new listeners, Season 1 of The Initiation lays the foundation for this inquiry - exploring the breakdowns, breakthroughs and inner transformation shaping humanity's collective threshold.
- Sep 3, 20261h 5m
#25 Sheldon Solomon: How the Fear of Death Shapes the World
What if one of the most powerful forces shaping human behaviour is something we rarely talk about - our fear of death?Sheldon Solomon is a social psychologist and one of the world’s leading researchers on terror management theory - the idea, inspired by Ernest Becker’s The Denial of Death, that our awareness of mortality quietly shapes much of human behaviour.For more than four decades, Sheldon and his colleagues have studied what happens when people are reminded of their mortality. Their research suggests that death anxiety can make us cling more tightly to our beliefs, become more hostile towards those who are different, seek money and status, support authoritarian leaders and even become more willing to exploit the natural world.But there is another possibility.What happens when, instead of denying death, we actually turn towards it?In this conversation, we explore:Why humans are uniquely aware of their own mortalityHow terror management theory helps explain seemingly irrational human behaviourWhy fear of death can intensify tribalism, polarisation and hostilityHow existential anxiety can increase our attraction to authoritarian leadersWhy money and status can become unconscious attempts to escape mortalityThe surprising relationship between death anxiety and environmental destructionWhy modern Western culture may be particularly death-denyingWhat near-death experiences reveal about our relationship with mortalityHow meditation, mindfulness and psychedelics may change the way we respond to deathWhy awe, humility, gratitude and nature could help us become more psychologically resilientWhether today’s converging crises are forcing humanity through a collective initiationAnd what Sheldon calls the need for a new kind of existential maturitySheldon argues that we may be living in a culture saturated with death anxiety — much of it operating beneath conscious awareness. Yet confronting our mortality may offer something unexpected: a deeper appreciation for being alive.As Sheldon reflects personally, after decades of studying death intellectually, it was only later in life that he began to experience the importance of practising awe, humility and gratitude — finding meaning in something as simple as walking outside, encountering another person or planting a tree that may outlive him.Ultimately, this is a conversation about death - but perhaps even more importantly, it is about how to live.Could the crises gathering around us be part of humanity’s initiation into a more mature relationship with mortality, with each other and with life itself?If you enjoy The Initiation, please subscribe on Spotify, Apple Podcasts or YouTube, and share the episode with someone who might resonate with this conversation.
- Aug 27, 20261h 6m
#24 Sarah Wilson: How to Live Fully in a Collapsing World
What if the collapse we fear isn’t the end of humanity — but the end of a system that no longer serves us?Sarah Wilson is a bestselling author, journalist and activist. Her latest book, I Eat the Stars: How to Live Fully and Beautifully in a Collapsing World, explores how facing the reality of the metacrisis can paradoxically bring greater clarity, courage and even joy.In this conversation, we explore: Why the crises around us may be different expressions of one larger metacrisis Sarah has moved beyond conventional ideas of hopeWhat it means to hospice the old world rather than desperately trying to preserve itHumanity’s passage from adolescence toward collective adulthoodHow to become an “island of sanity” in increasingly unstable timesWhy uncertainty, nature, community and spirituality may become essential capacities for what comes nextAnd why humans have repeatedly turned to dance and joy in times of crisisUltimately, this is a conversation about what it means to meet a moment of profound change without looking away — and to live fully and beautifully anyway.If you enjoy The Initiation, please subscribe on Spotify, Apple Podcasts or YouTube, and share the episode with someone who might resonate with this conversation.
- Jul 24, 20261h 23m
#23 Luke Kemp: Why Civilizations Collapse - and How We Might Avoid the Next One
In this episode of The Initiation, I speak with Luke Kemp, researcher at Cambridge’s Centre for the Study of Existential Risk and author of Goliath’s Curse: The History and Future of Societal Collapse.Luke challenges the conventional story of civilization as a steady march of progress. Instead, he traces the rise of what he calls “Goliaths”: societies built upon concentrated power, extractive resources, monopolized violence, and the restriction of people’s freedom to leave.While the collapse of these systems often benefited ordinary people in the past, Luke argues that collapse today would be profoundly different. Nuclear weapons, artificial intelligence, ecological breakdown, and our dependence on global supply chains have raised the height of the fall—potentially to a terminal level.We discuss:Why the earliest states resembled organized protection racketsThe three ingredients that allow Goliaths to emergeWhy fear makes societies vulnerable to authoritarian leadersHow inequality and concentrated power make civilizations fragileWhy collapse had a surprisingly bright past—but may have a dark futureThe growing risks posed by nuclear weapons and artificial intelligenceWhy game theory misunderstands ordinary human behaviourHumanity’s deeper evolutionary capacity for cooperationHow corporations and states amplify the darker sides of human natureCitizens’ assemblies, wealth redistribution, and the possibility of open democracyWhat meaningful action looks like in the face of systemic riskThis is a sobering but ultimately empowering conversation about the history of power, the risks gathering around us, and how we might build institutions that bring out the best—rather than the worst—of humanity.And for new listeners, Season 1 of The Initiation lays the foundation for this inquiry - exploring the breakdowns, breakthroughs, and inner transformation shaping humanity’s collective threshold.
- Jul 1, 20261h 4m
#22 Corey Bradshaw: Extinction, Overpopulation, and the Future We Can Still Shape
In this episode of The Initiation, I speak with Corey Bradshaw, ecologist, modeler, and global change scientist, about the uncomfortable realities of the ecological crisis — and what it means to face them honestly.Corey’s path began far from academia: growing up in the Canadian wilderness with a trapper father, learning the intelligence of animals, the harshness of wild places, and the power humans have to alter the living world. Today, he uses mathematical models to understand ecosystems, extinction, population dynamics, climate trajectories, and the future of human civilization.Together we explore why the sixth mass extinction is not just a distant scientific abstraction, how overpopulation and overconsumption are inseparably linked, why efficiency often leads to more exploitation rather than less, and why denial is such a deeply human response to ecological breakdown.This is not an easy conversation — but it is a deeply clarifying one. Corey offers a form of grounded realism: not the fantasy that everything will be fine, and not the despair that nothing matters, but the possibility of making the future “less shitty” through honest seeing, better choices, and a renewed sense of responsibility for the living systems that sustain us.A conversation about extinction, denial, resilience, collapse, and what it means to stay useful in a world that is already changing.And for new listeners, Season 1 of The Initiation lays the foundation for this inquiry - exploring the breakdowns, breakthroughs, and inner transformation shaping humanity’s collective threshold.
- Jun 19, 20261h 0m
#21 Jeff Booth: Bitcoin, AI, and the End of the Zero-Sum Game
In this episode, I’m joined by Jeff Booth — entrepreneur, investor, author, and co-founder of Ego Death Capital — for a wide-ranging conversation on Bitcoin, money, AI, and the civilizational threshold we find ourselves in.Jeff argues that Bitcoin is not merely an asset, but a protocol for a fundamentally different kind of world: one beyond the zero-sum logic of manipulated money, extraction, and centralized control. In his view, Bitcoin opens the possibility of a true free market — one where technological progress, AI, and productivity gains can flow back to people through falling prices, rather than being captured by states, banks, or technocratic monopolies.We explore why Jeff sees Bitcoin as essential to the transition into a post-labor economy, how broken money distorts reality and fuels fear, why most of crypto misses the point, and what it means to reclaim agency in a time of accelerating breakdown and breakthrough.We discuss:– Bitcoin as a civilizational phase shift– Why the natural state of a free market is deflation– AI, robotics, and the future of labor– Why broken money concentrates power– The spiritual and psychological dimension of Bitcoin– Ego Death Capital and investing in the Bitcoin ecosystem– Why Jeff believes most other blockchains go to zero– MicroStrategy, ETFs, and the risk of Bitcoin capture– Agency, fear, and building the world that comes nextThis is a conversation about Bitcoin — but also about consciousness, courage, decentralization, and the possibility of an infinite game for humanity.And for new listeners, Season 1 of The Initiation lays the foundation for this inquiry - exploring the breakdowns, breakthroughs, and inner transformation shaping humanity’s collective threshold.
- Jun 4, 20261h 7m
#20 Jeremy Lent: Eco-Civilization and the Possibility of a Life-Affirming Future
Jeremy Lent is an author, philosopher, and systems thinker whose work explores the deep roots of our civilizational crisis - and the possibility of a life-affirming future. His books include The Patterning Instinct, The Web of Meaning, and his latest book, Eco-Civilization, which asks what it would take to build a world system designed for the flourishing of all life. In this conversation, Sebastian and Jeremy explore why our current system is not simply broken, but functioning exactly as designed: extracting wealth, exploiting life, and concentrating power. From there, they move into the deeper question at the heart of Jeremy’s work: whether another path is still possible - one rooted in mutual flourishing, ecological regeneration, and what he calls “mutually beneficial symbiosis.”Together they unpack:why “there is no alternative” is one of the most powerful myths of our timethe Windigo as a metaphor for endless extraction and insatiable growthwhat hunter-gatherer societies reveal about human cooperation and dignitythe rise of inequality, domination, and alpha-male power structurescollapse, authoritarian fortress-earth scenarios, and the third possibilitythe adaptive cycle, unraveling systems, and islands of coherenceAI, the singularity, and the danger of confusing technology with transcendencewhy evolution is not only competition, but cooperation and symbiosishow to orient your life toward the possibility of an eco-civilizationAt its heart, this is a conversation about remembering who we are beneath the conditioning of a system that has taught us to crave, compete, and consume.And for new listeners, Season 1 of The Initiation lays the foundation for this inquiry - exploring the breakdowns, breakthroughs, and inner transformation shaping humanity’s collective threshold.
- Apr 30, 20261h 8m
#19 Energy, Ecology, and the Limits of Industrial Civilization - with Richard Heinberg
Richard Heinberg joins The Initiation. Richard is a human ecologist, journalist, and Senior Fellow at the Post Carbon Institute, and the author of fourteen books on energy, ecology, and the future of industrial civilization. His work traces the deep entanglement between energy systems, social evolution, and the ecological limits now confronting humanity.In this conversation, we explore the polycrisis through the lens of human ecology - examining how fossil fuels enabled the modern world, why the energy transition faces hard material limits, and what a graceful descent from industrial civilization could actually look like. What begins as a discussion about energy quickly reveals itself as something deeper: a reckoning with the assumptions, incentives, and stories that have brought us to this threshold moment.Together they unpack:why energy is the foundation beneath everything humans do - and why fossil fuels created an unrepeatable historical anomaly the hard material limits of the renewable energy transition, from minerals to recyclingwhy perpetual economic growth on a finite planet was always a temporal illusionhow the debt bomb, demographic decline, and energy descent are converging into a single systemic resetthe case for bioregionalism as the organizing principle of a post-industrial future why AI may be the worst idea at the worst possible time - and the bubble likely to pop within monthswhat indigenous societies understand about ecological limits that modern civilization has forgottenthe phase shift already underway between 2025 and 2030 - and what it asks of us psychologicallywhy the path forward isn't found in blame or technological rescue, but in rebuilding sustainable households and communitiesThis episode is a sobering yet grounding look at the ecological foundations of our predicament - and an invitation to meet this moment with clear eyes, open hearts, and a willingness to imagine human life on radically different terms.If you're new to The Initiation, I recommend starting with Season 1 - it lays the foundation for understanding the broader arc we're tracing, from breakdown to breakthrough, and the deeper initiation this moment is asking of us.
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The Initiation is a podcast for those who sense the gravity and possibility of this moment in human history - a threshold marked by converging crises and a call to rise to the occasion. As exponential technologies accelerate, the global monetary system strains, climate disruption intensifies, and geopolitical orders shift - humanity stands on the edge of something vast and unknown. Each episode unpacks the forces reshaping our world and the inner shifts needed to meet them with clarity, courage, and wisdom. This is our collective rite of passage. Welcome to The Initiation.
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