
What if the collapse we fear isn’t the end of humanity — but the end of a system that no longer serves us?Sarah Wilson is a bestselling author, journalist and activist. Her latest book, I Eat the Stars: How to Live Fully and Beautifully in a Collapsing World, explores how facing the reality of the metacrisis can paradoxically bring greater clarity, courage and even joy.In this conversation, we explore: Why the crises around us may be different expressions of one larger metacrisis Sarah has moved beyond conventional ideas of hopeWhat it means to hospice the old world rather than desperately trying to preserve itHumanity’s passage from adolescence toward collective adulthoodHow to become an “island of sanity” in increasingly unstable timesWhy uncertainty, nature, community and spirituality may become essential capacities for what comes nextAnd why humans have repeatedly turned to dance and joy in times of crisisUltimately, this is a conversation about what it means to meet a moment of profound change without looking away — and to live fully and beautifully anyway.If you enjoy The Initiation, please subscribe on Spotify, Apple Podcasts or YouTube, and share the episode with someone who might resonate with this conversation.
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