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The Happiness Lab is serving up scientifically-backed takes this summer that are so hot, your SPF 50 won't protect you. With the help of behavioral scientists, historians, and cultural critics, Yale psychologist Dr. Laurie Santos challenges some of our biggest assumptions about what it takes to live a good life. Dr. Laurie explores topics like why we should forget about TMI and lean into oversharing, how dumping small talk makes for better conversations, why the kids these days are actually doing just fine, and how men can establish strong bromances. Each episode unpacks a bold, counterintuitive claim — using research, data, and expert insight to question the conventional wisdom around happiness and wellbeing.
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Between work, family, and our never-ending to-do lists, finding time for fun can feel like a luxury. But what if having fun isn't just a nice bonus in life — what if it's essential to our happiness, our health, and even our ability to make the world a better place? In this live conversation from the Aspen Ideas Festival, Dr. Laurie is joined by science journalist Catherine Price and psychologist Elizabeth Dunn to explore why we should all be taking fun more seriously. Experts Mentioned Catherine Price, health and science journalist Elizabeth Dunn, Professor of Social Psychology at the University of British Columbia Charles Duhigg, Pulitzer Prize-winning author Bill Nye, science communicator Ross Gay, poet, essayist, and Professor of English at Indiana University Bloomington Resources Mentioned How to Break Up With Your Phone: The 30-Day Plan to Take Back Your Life, by Catherine Price (2018) The Power of Fun: How to Feel Alive Again, by Catherine Price (2021) Happy Money: The Science of Happier Spending, by Elizabeth Dunn and Michael Norton (2013) Leave the Lights On: How Joyful Decisions Can Save Our Species, by Elizabeth Dunn and Jiaying Zhao (2026) Flow: The Psychology of Optimal Experience, by Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi (1990) “What does a good day look like?: An interpretable machine learning approach to the American Time Use Survey,” by Dunigan Folk, Mirka Henninger, and Elizabeth Dunn (PNAS Nexus, 2026) “Valuing time over money predicts happiness after a major life transition: A preregistered longitudinal study of graduating students,” by Ashley Whillans, Lucía Macchia, and Elizabeth Dunn (Scientific Advances, 2019) “Smartphone use undermines enjoyment of face-to-face social interactions,” by Ryan J. Dwyer, Kostadin Kushlev, and Elizabeth Dunn (Journal of Experimental and Social Psychology, 2018) The Power of Habit: Why We Do What We Do in Life and Business, by Charles Duhigg (2012) “The holiday happiness curve: a preliminary investigation into mood during a holiday abroad,” by Jeroen Nawijn (International Journal of Tourism Research, 2009) “Procrastination of Enjoyable Experiences,” by Suzanne Shu and Ayelet Gneezy (Journal of Marketing Research, 2010) “Happiness and Voting Behavior,” by George Ward (World Happiness Report, 2019) <a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/161
We’re still reckoning with the effects of social media on young people’s mental health. Now, with artificial intelligence rapidly becoming part of our everyday lives, we’re at risk of making the same mistakes all over again. In this live conversation from SXSW EDU, Dr. Laurie is joined by Bruce Reed — head of AI at Common Sense Media and former White House deputy chief of staff — to explore how social media and AI are shaping young people’s happiness and wellbeing, and what parents, educators, and policymakers can do to help kids thrive in an increasingly AI-driven world. Experts Mentioned: Jean Twenge, Professor of Psychology at San Diego State University Bruce Reed, Head of AI at Common Sense Media Catherine Price, science journalist Vivek Murthy, former Surgeon General of the United States Cass Sunstein, Professor at Harvard Law School Elizabeth Dunn, Professor of Psychology at the University of British Columbia Nicholas Epley, Professor of Behavioral Science at the University of Chicago Booth School of Business Michael Inzlicht, Professor of Psychology at the University of Toronto Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi, Professor of Psychology and Management at Claremont Graduate University and “the father of flow” Robyn Koslowitz, clinical psychologist and parenting educator David Yeager, Professor of Psychology at the University of Texas at Austin Jonathan Haidt, Professor of Business and Society at New York University Kristin Neff, Associate Professor of Educational Psychology at the University of Texas at Austin Jamil Zaki, Professor of Psychology at Stanford University Resources Mentioned: “Have Smartphones Destroyed a Generation?,” by Jean Twenge (The Atlantic, 2017) “The Common Sense Census: Media Use by Kids Zero to Eight,” (Common Sense Media, 2025) How to Break Up with Your Phone, by Catherine Price (2018) “Constant Companion: A Week in the Life of a Young Person's Smartphone Use,” (Common Sense Media, 2023) “Social Media and Youth Mental Health,” (The U.S. Surgeon General’s Advisory, 2023) “Social media, wasting time, and product traps,” by Cass Sunstein (World Happiness Report, 2026) “Teens and Mental Health: How Girls Really Feel About Social Media,” (Common Sense Media, 2023) “Teens and social media: Key findings from Pew
Cats have a reputation for being aloof, independent, and sometimes downright indifferent to their human companions. But what if we've been getting cats all wrong? In honor of National Cat Day, Dr. Laurie is joined by cat behavior expert Dr. Kristyn Vitale to explore the surprising science of our relationships with cats. They unpack what cats really think about their human caregivers, how our feline friends can boost our happiness and wellbeing, and what we can do to make their lives happier, too. Experts Mentioned: Kristyn Vitale, Certified Applied Animal Behaviorist and internationally recognized expert in cat behavior and the cat-human relationship John Bowlby, psychiatrist, psychoanalyst, and founder of attachment theory Mary Ainsworth, developmental psychologist and creator of the Strange Situation assessment Harry Harlow, University of Wisconsin-Madison researcher and former director of their Primate Laboratory Karen McComb, Emeritus Professor of Animal Behaviour and Cognition at the University of Sussex Wendy Berry Mendes, Professor of Psychology at Yale University Mikel Maria Delgado, animal behavioural scientist Resources Mentioned: “Social interaction, food, scent or toys? A formal assessment of domestic pet and shelter cat (Felis silvestris catus) preferences,” by Kristyn Vitale, Lindsay Mehrkam, and Monique Udell (Behavioural Processes, 2017) “The quality of being sociable: The influence of human attentional state, population, and human familiarity on domestic cat sociability,” by Kristyn Vitale and Monique Udell (Behavioural Processes, 2019) “Attachment bonds between domestic cats and humans,” by Kristyn Vitale, Alexandra Behnke, and Monique Udell (Current Biology, 2019) “The Development of Affectional Responses in Infant Monkeys,” by Harry Harlow and Robert Zimmermann (Proceedings of the American Philosophical Society, 1958) “Attachment, Exploration, and Separation: Illustrated by the Behavior of One-Year-Olds in a Strange Situation,” by Mary Ainsworth and Silvia Bell (Child Development, 1970) “Maternal Care and Mental Health,” by John Bowlby (Bulletin of the World Health Organization, 1951) “The cry embedded within the purr,” by Karen McComb, Anna Taylor, Christian Wilson, Benjamin Charlton (Current Biology, 2009) — Thank you to Professor McComb and her team for letting us include the solution purr audio in this episode! “Cardiovascular reactivity and the presence of pets, friends, and spouses: the truth about cats and dogs,” by Karen Allen, Jim Blascovich, and Wendy Mendes (Psychosomatic Medicine, 2002) “Social referencing and cat-human communication,” by Isabella Merola, Martina Lazzaroni, Sarah Marshall-Pescini, and Emanuela Prato-Previde (Animal Cognition, 2015) “Cats (Felis silvestris catus) read human gaze for referential information,” by Péter Pongr&aacu
You might assume that people who study happiness for a living have it all figured out. But even happiness experts struggle to follow their own advice. They know the science behind feeling happier, managing difficult emotions, and building healthier habits — but putting that knowledge into practice is another story. Why is it so hard to do the things we know are good for us? In a live conversation recorded at SXSW, Dr. Laurie gets personal with her good friend, psychologist Ethan Kross, about the times they've struggled to practice what they preach. Together, they explore the psychological biases that can get in our way and share science-backed strategies for managing difficult emotions, building better habits, and turning that knowledge into action. Experts Mentioned: Ethan Kross, Professor of Psychology at the University of Michigan Tamar Gendler, Professor of Philosophy and Dean of the Faculty of Arts and Sciences at Yale University Gabriele Oettingen, Professor of Psychology at New York University and the University of Hamburg Carey Morewedge, Professor of Marketing at Boston University Christina Maslach, Professor Emerita of Psychology at the University of California, Berkeley Kristin Neff, Associate Professor of Educational Psychology at the University of Texas at Austin Resources Mentioned: Shift: Managing Your Emotions — So They Don't Manage You, by Ethan Kross (2025) Chatter: The Voice in Our Head, Why It Matters, and How to Harness It, by Ethan Kross (2021) “Knowing is Half the Battle,” by Laurie Santos and Tamar Gendler (Edge, 2014) Müller-Lyer Illusion “Exploring Solomon’s Paradox: Self-Distancing Eliminates the Self-Other Asymmetry in Wise Reasoning About Close Relationships in Younger and Older Adults,” by Igor Grossmann and Ethan Kross (Psychological Science, 2014) WOOP: Wish, Outcome, Obstacle, Plan Rethinking Positive Thinking: Inside the New Science of Motivation, by Gabriele Oettingen (2014) “Thought for Food: Imagined Consumption Reduces Actual Consumption,” by Carey Morewedge, Young Eun Huh, and Joachim Vosgerau (Science, 2010) “Forming a flossing habit: an exploratory study of the psychological determinants of habit formation,” by Gaby Judah, Benjamin Gardner, and Robert Aunger (British Journal of Health Psychology, 2013) <a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/059308375X
For most of human history, we only had one way to talk to one another: our voices. Today, we have more ways to communicate than ever before. We can text, call, send a video message, reach out over social media, et cetera. And we often choose whichever option seems easiest or least awkward. But research suggests that how we choose to communicate matters much more than we realize and can have a surprising impact on how well we understand one another and how connected we feel. In a live conversation recorded at the World Happiness Summit at SXSW, Dr. Laurie speaks with psychologist Nick Epley about the common mistakes we make when communicating in the modern world — and the small changes that could help us connect more meaningfully with the people around us. His new book, A Little More Social, is available now. Experts Mentioned: Nicholas Epley, Professor of Behavioral Science at the University of Chicago Booth School of Business Bronisław Malinowski, Polish anthropologist and ethnologist Resources Mentioned: A Little More Social: How Small Choices Create Unexpected Happiness, Health, and Connection, by Nick Epley (2026) “Hello, stranger? Pleasant conversations are preceded by concerns about starting one,” by Juliana Schroeder, Donald Lyons, and Nicholas Epley (Journal of Experimental Psychology: General, 2022) "The Problem of Meaning in Primitive Languages," by Bronisław Malinowski (1923) “Is Conversation Magical?,” by Nicholas Epley (Chicago Booth Review, 2026) “The Humanizing Voice: Speech Reveals, and Text Conceals, a More Thoughtful Mind in the Midst of Disagreement,” by Juliana Schroeder, Michael Kardas, and Nicholas Epley (Psychological Science, 2017) "Egocentrism over e-mail: can we communicate as well as we think?," by Justin Kruger, Nicholas Epley, Jason Parker, and Zhi-Wen Ng (Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, 2005) “The Sound of Intellect: Speech Reveals a Thoughtful Mind, Increasing a Job Candidate's Appeal,” by Juliana Schroeder and Nicholas Epley (Psychological Science, 2015) “It's surprisingly nice to hear you: Misunderstanding the impact of communication media can lead to suboptimal choices of how to connect with others,” by Amit Kumar and Nicholas Epley Journal of Experimental Psychology: General, 2021) Related Episodes: Forget Small Talk: Go Deep Instead You’re Actually Not Bothering People Enough Why Giving is a Great Daily Habit <a href="https://www.pushkin.fm/podcasts/the-happiness-lab-with-dr-laurie-santos/the-surprising-case-for-overshar
As we move through our busy lives, it’s easy to stop noticing the tiny, beautiful things all around us. But rediscovering the sense of wonder we had as children might not only bring us more joy — it could also help us better navigate life’s hardest moments. Dr. Laurie explores that idea with traveling philosopher and former NPR correspondent Eric Weiner, author of The Socrates Express: In Search of Life Lessons from Dead Philosophers. Eric shares what he’s learned from walking in the footsteps of Henry David Thoreau, including how the 19th-century philosopher can help us live better in the modern day and see beauty in the things we usually overlook. Experts Mentioned: Eric Weiner, journalist, author, and philosophical traveler Henry David Thoreau, 19th-century American philosopher, poet, environmental scientist, and political activist Socrates, ancient Greek philosopher Epicurus, ancient Greek philosopher Arthur Schopenhauer, 19th-century German philosopher Ralph Waldo Emerson, 19th-century essayist, poet, and philosopher Confucius, ancient Chinese philosopher Nathaniel Hawthorne, 19th-century American novelist and short-story writer Leslie Perrin Wilson, author and former curator of the Special Collections at the Concord Free Public Library Henry Miller, American novelist, short-story writer, and essayist Resources Mentioned: The Socrates Express: In Search of Life Lessons from Dead Philosophers, by Eric Weiner (2020) Walden, by Henry David Thoreau (1854) “Walking,” by Henry David Thoreau (1862) Bhagavad Gita (second or first century BCE) The Journal of Henry David Thoreau “The playful mediator, moderator, or outcome? An integrative review of the roles of play and playfulness in adult-centered psychological interventions for mental health,” by Xiangyou Shen and Leland Masek (The Journal of Positive Psychology, 2024) Related Episodes: “Happiness Lessons of The Ancients: Confucius” “The Science of Attention and Distraction” “The Power of Awe… and Where to Find it” “Sight and Sound: How to Joyfully Awaken Your Senses” See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
When we’re exhausted, overworked, or just going through a difficult time, our instinct is often to put our heads down and simply focus on getting through it. But those serious moments may actually be when we benefit from a little silliness and absurdity the most. Laurie explores the science of humor with comedian Chris Duffy, host of How to Be a Better Human and author of the new book Humor Me: How Laughing More Can Make You Present, Creative, Connected, and Happy. Chris shares what he’s learned about how to find humor in almost any situation — and how embracing the funny can improve our wellbeing in surprising ways. Experts Mentioned: Chris Duffy, comedian, author, and host of How to Be a Better Human E. B. White, writer and essayist Mimi M.Y. Tse, Assistant Professor at The Hong Kong Polytechnic University Ross Gay, poet, essayist, and Professor of English at Indiana University Annie Rauwerda, creator of “Depths of Wikipedia” Aparna Nancherla, comedian and author Greg Bryant, Professor of Communication at UCLA Adam Mastroianni, experimental psychologist and author Resources Mentioned: Humor Me: How Laughing More Can Make You Present, Creative, Connected, and Happy, by Chris Duffy (2026) How to Be a Better Human, TED podcast hosted by Chris Duffy “The impression management benefits of humorous self-disclosures: How humor influences perceptions of veracity,” by T. Bradford Bitterly and Maurice Schweitzer (Organizational Behavior and Human Decision Processes, 2019) “The effect of a pratfall on increasing interpersonal attractiveness,” by Elliot Aronson, Ben Willerman, and Joanne Floyd (Human Learning and Thinking, 1966) “Humor Therapy: Relieving Chronic Pain and Enhancing Happiness for Older Adults,” Mimi Tse, Anna Lo, Tracy Cheng, Eva Chan, Annie Chan, and Helena Chung (Journal of Aging R
Today we're sharing author Eric Zimmer’s interview with Dr. Laurie on The One You Feed podcast. In this episode, Dr. Laurie Santos discusses the importance of taking small steps to happiness and the science of mindful living. She reminds us that happiness is not a destination, but a practice. By understanding the science behind well-being and implementing small, consistent changes, we can learn how to apply these insights to our own lives to find greater joy and fulfillment. Key Takeaways: Embrace the power of small, consistent actions in shaping our happiness Understand how our environment and social connections influence our behavior Learn the common misconceptions about what truly makes us happy Discover strategies for overcoming loneliness and building meaningful connections If you like what you hear, find The One You Feed wherever you get podcasts.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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The Happiness Lab is serving up scientifically-backed takes this summer that are so hot, your SPF 50 won't protect you. With the help of behavioral scientists, historians, and cultural critics, Yale psychologist Dr. Laurie Santos challenges some of our biggest assumptions about what it takes to live a good life. Dr. Laurie explores topics like why we should forget about TMI and lean into oversharing, how dumping small talk makes for better conversations, why the kids these days are actually doing just fine, and how men can establish strong bromances. Each episode unpacks a bold, counterintuitive claim — using research, data, and expert insight to question the conventional wisdom around happiness and wellbeing.
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