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707: Andy Stanley & Sam Kaufman - Problems to Solve, Tensions to Manage, The 3 Questions Behind Every Great Decision, and The 7 Essentials of Enduring Leadership (What Great Leaders Do)
The Learning Leader Show with Ryan Hawk www.LearningLeader.com New Book: The Price of Becoming www.LearningLeader.com/Becoming This is brought to you by Insight Global. If you need to hire one person, hire a team of people, or transform your business through Talent or Technical Services, Insight Global's team of 30,000 people around the world has the hustle and grit to deliver. My guests: Andy Stanley is the founder of North Point Ministries, which he started in Atlanta in 1995 and has grown into 8 churches across metro Atlanta and a network of more than 225 churches globally, serving over 200,000 people weekly. He's the author of more than 20 books, including Next Generation Leader, Visioneering, and Deep & Wide. His newest is What Great Leaders Do: 7 Essentials for Enduring Impact. He and his wife Sandra have three grown children and live in Atlanta. Sam Kaufman is the Chief Revenue Officer of Insight Global, a $5.3B talent, technical, and AI services firm. He started as an entry-level recruiter in 2004 and rose through the ranks to lead the company's core sales divisions. He's played a central role in Insight Global's transformation into a global talent and technical services organization, helping the company double in size over the past five years, and in 2026, he was named to Staffing Industry Analysts' Staffing 100 North America list, recognizing the most influential leaders in staffing. He has a degree in electrical engineering from Bucknell. Key Learnings Somebody saw it in him before he saw it in himself. Andy and Louie Giglio were the troublemakers in his dad's youth group. One morning after they'd disrupted everything, Mother Mary sat them down and told them they were leaders and needed to lead. Andy's reaction at the time: then I don't want to be a leader. She should have kicked them out, but she didn't. She kept giving them chances they didn't deserve and didn't handle well. She's about to turn 101 years old. She never had children of her own and to this day she calls them her sons. Now Andy does it for others. When he sees someone with a leadership gear, he tries to speak life into it and fan the flame, because that's what was done for him. Leadership is the most wonderful, dangerous gift. Every great thing that's happened in the world had a leader behind it. So did every terrible thing. People followed both for the same reason: the leader brought clarity to a dilemma, made a promise, and people leaned in. Andy thinks leaders are born, not made. His evidence: he's never met a leader who accomplished anything extraordinary who said they weren't a leader, then read two books or went to a conference and became one. Anyone can get better. "But you can make him a better singer and still never hand him a microphone." Problems to solve vs tensions to manage. Work-life balance is a tension. You don't solve it, you manage it. Every industry and every company has its own. "When you solve a tension, you create a problem." You can spot tension by the calendar. If it keeps reappearing on the agenda and somebody keeps saying didn't we just talk about this, you've been trying to solve something that was never a problem. Naming it changes the conversation. Once a team agrees they're looking at a tension, nobody is right and nobody is wrong, and people stop treating each other like enemies. Andy's team asks the question out loud once a month. Sam heard Andy teach this on a podcast and it moved through Insight Global in a week. He listened on the drive in, recognized the pattern live in his CEO's Thursday meeting, and shared it with 40 leaders in the room. It reached a 40,000 person company within days. Sam's read on why: they'd been having the same conversation for years and had never had the language for it. Nobody can promise certainty. You can give clarity. The only way to promise certainty is to know the future in detail. And the greater the un
- 1 weeks agointerview55 min6-min read
706: Daniel Lubetzky - KIND Snacks Founder & Shark Tank Investor on Kindness, Grit, Values-Driven Leadership. and Building a Billion-Dollar Brand
Daniel Lubetzky, founder of Kind and son of a Holocaust survivor, built a multibillion-dollar brand not through luck or shortcuts, but by embracing a builder’s mindset rooted in curiosity, compassion, creativity, and courage—values shaped by his father’s survival and his own decade-long journey of failure, resilience, and purpose-driven entrepreneurship.
- 1 weeks agointerview53 min7-min read
705: Dr. Martin Seligman - Positive Psychology, Learned Optimism, Grit, PERMA, Agency, Resilience, and Predicting the Future
Dr. Martin Seligman, the founder of positive psychology, discusses how agency—comprising efficacy, optimism, and imagination—drives both individual success and historical progress. Despite being a self-described lifelong depressive and pessimist, he shares practical, evidence-based techniques to combat negative thinking, build optimism, and foster high-agency cultures in leadership and organizations.
- 2 weeks agointerview52 min7-min read
704: Strauss Zelnick - The Leader Who Greenlit Dirty Dancing, Owns Grand Theft Auto, Loves Being Coached, and Might be the Fittest CEO Alive
Strauss Zelnick, CEO of Take-Two Interactive and a serial turnaround executive, attributes his sustained success to disciplined leadership, rigorous delegation, fitness as a performance enhancer, and the consistent use of coaching — even at the pinnacle of his career. His philosophy centers on hiring top talent, aligning incentives with mission, and maintaining financial discipline to enable creative risk-taking.
- 3 weeks agointerview1h 4m6-min read
703: Angela Duckworth - Why Grit Isn't Enough, Situation Over Willpower, How Belief Gets Borrowed, John Wooden's Socks, and How the Right People and Places Bring Out Your Best
Grit alone isn’t enough to achieve greatness—your environment, or 'situation,' plays a powerful and often overlooked role in determining success. True achievement comes from exercising 'situational agency': intentionally shaping the people, places, and routines around you to bring out your best.
- 4 weeks agointerview55 min6-min read
702: Blake Mycoskie (Founder of TOMS) - Hitting Every Goal & Still Feeling Worthless... Gratitude, Mantras, and Hiring Like a Champion
Blake Mycoskie, founder of TOMS Shoes, achieved massive success with the one-for-one business model, selling the company for hundreds of millions, but then plunged into a deep depression that lasted nearly seven years. He discovered that external validation—money, fame, impact—couldn’t fill an internal void of not feeling “enough,” and his healing came only through deep inner work, daily mantras, gratitude practices, and repatterning his subconscious beliefs.
- Aug 16, 2026interview52 min7-min read
701: Mark Pincus (Founder of Zynga) - Why We All Need a Coach, Maintaining High Standards, The Book of Life, Aggressive Ambition, and Why Your Instincts Are Almost Always Right
Mark Pincus, founder of Zynga and serial entrepreneur, shares how coaching, long-term thinking, and a personal 'book of life' practice have shaped his leadership and life philosophy. He emphasizes playing to get better over winning short-term points, committing to bold moments, and aligning with future self through annual reflection.
- Aug 9, 2026conversational1h 29m8-min read
700: Keith Hawk & AJ Hawk - Conscious Competence, Delusional Confidence, Stacking Days, After-Action Reviews, Taking Big Risks, The Power of Compounding, and Modeling High-Standards
This special 700th episode of The Learning Leader Show features host Ryan Hawk in conversation with his father, Keith 'Pistol' Hawk, and brother, AJ Hawk, reflecting on leadership, confidence, consistency, and pivotal life moments. The trio shares personal stories from sports, business, and fatherhood, emphasizing delusional self-confidence, vivid clarity in communication, and the compounding power of daily habits.
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