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by Joe De Sena
Learn the Spartan mindset. Founder & CEO of Spartan Race and NY Times best-selling author, travels the globe seeking answers from authors, academics, athletes, adventurers, entrepreneurs, CEOs and thought leaders. It will shift your thinking, make you laugh and give you the tools you need. He's on a mission to find the secrets to success in all aspects of life. Not only does Joe interview epic people, he has brought together an amazing panel to break down and analyze every aspect of these interviews. We give you the ultimate blueprint and action steps to assimilating these powerful conversations into your own life.
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- 6 days ago26 min
Jason Fox "Foxy": Rebuilding After Special Forces
Jason Fox "Foxy" spent 20 years in the UK military: 10 in the Royal Marines, 10 in the Special Boat Service, Britain's tier-one special forces. He deployed year after year through the post-9/11 era, working alongside US and allied forces in some of the most intense operations of that period. Then in the middle of a firefight, pinned in a ditch under heavy enemy fire, something broke. His mind defaulted to the last safe place he had ever known: being a boy at home with his mum. Joe De Sena sits down with "Foxy" to talk about what happened next: losing his mojo for the job he loved, getting medically discharged for PTSD, standing on a cliff considering ending it, and the moment he realized he had never quit anything before and was not going to start now. He shares the psychological timeline and the daily habits that keep him stable today: conscious check-ins, non-negotiable exercise, and living in the present like a toddler who does not carry yesterday's weight. His book Embrace the Chaos puts the practical framework around everything he learned the hard way. Things You Will Learn: The psychological timeline: a simple diagram that reveals where stress stacks up before it breaks you, and why "Foxy" wishes he had drawn it at 28. Why an elite operator who never quit anything lost his drive for the job he loved, and what it took to find a new reason to keep going. Three daily habits "Foxy" uses to stay stable after PTSD: conscious emotional check-ins, non-negotiable exercise, and present-moment awareness. Tools & Frameworks Covered: The Psychological Timeline: Draw your lifeline from birth to now. Add lines for career stress, relationships, finances, health, major events. Where the lines stack thickest is where the damage started. That is where you need to pay attention. The Monday Check-In: When you feel off, stop before you ruin the day. Sit down. Ask why. Identify the specific source. Name it. Manage it. Cut yourself some slack before it compounds. <span class= "author-d-1gg9uz65z1iz85zgdz68zmqkz84zo2qowz80zsz81z9ytz75zz83zc2kz79zwz71zz75znvz67zixvcz65zrz67zz73zz
- 1 weeks ago26 min
Dan Cnossen on Losing Both Legs in Afghanistan, Waking Up 12 Days Later, and Rebuilding From Zero
Dan Cnossen spent twelve years training to become a Navy SEAL platoon commander. Forty-eight hours into his first operation in Afghanistan, an improvised explosive device on a hilltop took both of his legs. His teammates dragged him over rocks in the dark while clearing other explosives, and loaded him onto a helicopter that had less than one minute of fuel remaining before it would have left without him. Joe De Sena sits down with Dan to walk through the injury, the medically induced coma, the months of seven-to-ten-hour surgeries scheduled three days a week, and the moment at Walter Reed Army Medical Center when seeing triple and quadruple amputees broke through his self-pity and forced a permanent shift in perspective. Dan shares three frameworks from SEAL training and recovery that apply directly to anyone facing sustained difficulty: shrink your time horizon when intensity rises, examine hardship from more than one angle before the first angle hardens in your brain, and understand that external resources are necessary but willpower is the only sufficient condition. Things You Will Learn: Why shrinking your time horizon to the next five minutes is the most reliable way to survive sustained physical or emotional stress. The danger of letting your first interpretation of a setback harden into your only interpretation and how to force new angles. The difference between necessary conditions and sufficient conditions when rebuilding after a major loss. Tools & Frameworks Covered: Intensity-Time Horizon Inverse: When stress or difficulty spikes, collapse your focus to the next minute, the next obstacle, the next rep. Your brain will try to project long-term doubt. Pull it back to what is directly in front of you. Angle Shifting: The first way you frame a major setback will rigidify in your brain if you do not deliberately seek other angles. Force yourself to examine the event from multiple perspectives before the default interpretation locks in. Necessary vs. Sufficient: External support, resources, and community are necessary to rebuild. But they are not sufficient. The sufficient condition is your own willpower. No one can supply that for you. Chapters: 0:00 Intro: Dan Cnossen, former Navy SEAL, double amputee 1:14 The Naval Academy, choosing English, and the path to the SEAL teams <span class= "author-d-1gg9uz65z1iz85zgdz68zmqkz84zo2qowz80zsz81z9ytz75zz83zc2k
- 2 weeks ago20 min
Connor Emeny on Ironman Antarctica: Hypothermia, Sea Lions, and 32 Hours on a Volcanic Island
Connor Emeny is the first person to complete an Ironman triathlon on all seven continents. The seventh was Antarctica. Joe De Sena talks with Emeny about spending 23 days on a 45-foot sailboat crossing the Drake Passage, where 800 boats have sunk and 30,000 people have died, just to reach a start line that did not exist. On Deception Island, a volcanic range in Antarctica, Connor swam 3.86 kilometers in minus 1°C water for an hour and forty-two minutes until his body went hypothermic and his teeth froze shut. He biked 180 kilometers on a fat tire bike doing a 100-meter loop eighteen hundred times over twenty-one hours. Then he ran a marathon on volcanic ash and ice. Things You Will Learn: What two years of planning, cold-calling, and training in ice lanes look like when you are building something from zero with no blueprint. The physical reality of endurance in sub-zero water: how the body shuts down and what keeps you moving when it does. Why acting before you are fully ready can be the only way to make an extreme goal happen at all. Tools & Frameworks Covered: Cold-Call Your Way In: When no path exists, pick up the phone and start asking. Emeny cold-called tour operators and Antarctic explorers until he found Doug Stoup, who had been to the poles more than anyone alive and agreed to help. Choose Your Corner Over Your Crew: When resources forced a choice between a bigger film crew and bringing his brother and mother, Emeny chose the people who believed in him most. Support beats production value under extreme pressure. Window Thinking: There is a limited window to act on a goal. Spend too long perfecting the safety plan, and the opportunity fades. Emeny spent two years preparing, but committed before certainty arrived, because certainty was never coming. Chapters: 0:00 Intro: Connor Emeny completed Ironman Antarctica in thirty-two hours 1:03 Growing up in Toronto as the youngest of three brothers 3:40 How the seven-continent Ironman goal started 5:40 Why the continents mattered more than the races 7:19 Planning Antarctica and the Guinness World Record <span class= "author-d-1gg9uz65z1iz85zgdz
- 3 weeks ago23 min
Robert Greene on Finding Your Purpose, The 48 Laws of Power, and Life After a Stroke
Robert Greene was 38, living in a one-bedroom apartment in Santa Monica after years of failed screenplays and dead-end jobs. Everyone around him seemed to be moving forward. He wasn't. Then a chance conversation in Venice, Italy, turned two decades of quiet observation into The 48 Laws of Power, a book that reshaped how a generation thinks about ambition, strategy, and human nature. Joe De Sena sits down with Robert to talk about building a life from nothing, twice. First as a writer who found his path late. Then again after a stroke in 2018 took much of his mobility but left his mind intact. That second rebuild became his newest book, The Law of the Sublime. They cover why years that feel wasted are often preparation in disguise, Sun Tzu's Death Ground principle, and the three-step process Robert prescribes for anyone who feels stuck or left behind: know yourself, experiment through action, and develop skills no machine can replicate. Things You Will Learn: Why being broke and behind at 38 wasn't the end for Robert Greene, and how twenty "wasted" years became the raw material for The 48 Laws of Power. The three-step process Robert uses to get unstuck, starting with a self-knowledge exercise most people skip entirely. Why Sun Tzu's Death Ground principle generates more energy and creativity than any supplement or shortcut. Tools & Frameworks Covered: Life's Task Discovery: Journal about what excited you as a child. Identify what makes you different from everyone around you. Use that as a compass, not someone else's expectations. Skill Stacking Through Experimentation: Don't think your way out of being stuck. Act. Try things connected to your life's task. Learn through doing. The brain is designed to develop through action, not theory. Death Ground (Sun Tzu/33 Strategies of War): When your back is against the wall and there is no safety net, your energy and creativity spike. Manufacture that urgency before life forces it on you. <span class= "author-d-1gg9uz65z1iz85zgdz68zmqkz84zo2qowz80zsz81z9ytz75zz83zc2kz79zwz71zz75znvz67zixvcz65zrz67zz73zz73zz85zdz87zz85z" style
- Oct 6, 202619 min
Billy Billingham on Growing Up in Gangs, Surviving SAS Selection, and Why Time Is All You Have
Billy Billingham joined a gang at nine years old. By eleven, he had a criminal record. At thirteen, he was expelled from school. At fifteen, he was stabbed and nearly died in a hospital bed. Two years later he walked into military recruitment and never looked back. Joe De Sena sits down with the former SAS operator, one of seven to pass selection out of 283 candidates, to talk about the moment a boxing instructor changed his life, the day he saw a Falklands War veteran with a bullet hole through his face and decided that was the man he wanted to become, and why 70 to 80% of what he does now is giving back to the kids and veterans who need what he needed at nine. Things You Will Learn: The mindset shift that took Billy Billingham from gang warfare and juvenile court to SAS selection, and why it started with one honest conversation with his father. Why looking around and feeling outmatched on day one is an advantage, not a warning sign. The one resource you cannot earn back and why wasting it is the only real failure. Tools & Frameworks Covered: Own It, Do Not Excuse It: Billy's father told him to be a thief before a liar. Owning the truth is the foundation of every correction that follows. Day One Hunger: On the first day of both basic training and SAS selection, Billy looked around and saw people who were bigger, stronger, and more experienced. He used that feeling to stay humble, stay hungry, and outlast 276 of them. Time Audit: Time is the only resource you cannot replace. Every hour on the couch is an hour you chose not to move forward. Progress does not require speed. It requires motion. Chapters: 0:00 Intro: Billy Billingham, SAS veteran and original Peaky Blinder 0:21 Gang member at nine, criminal record by eleven 2:15 Kids know right from wrong 5:06 Learning weapons, maps, and medical training at eleven 6:56 Joining the military at 17 8:26 Walking three miles to school
- Sep 29, 202627 min
Jovon Quarles on Growing Up in D.C., Ringing the Bell in Hell Week, and Becoming a Navy SEAL
Jovon "Q" Quarles grew up on the northeast side of Washington, D.C., with a drug-addicted mother, no father, and a crack house across the street. His grandparents raised him: his grandfather, an Army veteran they called "The Bear," and his grandmother, an amputee who could never attend his games but kept newspaper clippings of every one. She moved him to rural North Carolina, held him to a standard, and when he had two kids before graduating high school, she forced him into the Navy. Joe De Sena sits down with Jovon to trace the full arc from D.C. to BUD/S, including the Tuesday morning in Hell Week when Q rang the bell, felt instant regret, and had to rebuild his entire identity around ownership to earn a second attempt. He graduated top of his class. His grandmother never saw it. Things You Will Learn: Why ringing the bell in Hell Week taught Q more about ownership than any mission he ran afterward. The specific mindset shift that turned a kid with no parents and a terrible GPA into a top-of-class SEAL graduate. What the victim mentality costs you, and the exact moment Q stopped using it. Tools & Frameworks Covered: Finish What You Start: Q's grandparents drilled one rule: if you begin something, you complete it. That principle carried him from high school sports through BUD/S and a full SEAL career. Ownership Over Victimhood: After getting kicked from his first Navy program, Q blamed the Navy. That victim response almost ended his trajectory. The shift to personal ownership unlocked everything that followed. Hunger as an Edge: Growing up without parents, money, or stability built a drive that kids from comfortable backgrounds rarely develop. Q treats that hunger as a competitive advantage, not a disadvantage. Chapters:0:00 Intro: Who is Jovon "Q" Quarles?<span class= "author-d-1gg9uz65z1iz85zgdz68zmqkz84zo2qowz80
- Sep 22, 202621 min
Rudy Reyes on Marine Corps Culture, the Special Forces Jungle Season, and What Harsh Conditions Actually Fix
Rudy Reyes is a Recon Marine who grew up in a boys' home, lost brothers to combat and suicide after service, and now leads military selection courses on Fox's Special Forces and the UK's SAS Who Dares Wins. Joe De Sena sits down with Rudy to break down what happened when Season 5 moved into the jungle: 100% humidity, 105-degree heat, cobras, scorpions, and contestants dropping within days. They dig into why Marine Corps culture produces a different kind of person, why harsh physical conditions change lives in ways therapy and motivation cannot, and how Rudy stayed relevant after combat by never stopping training. Rudy also shares his path to Heat 2, the upcoming film from director Michael Mann, and the boys' home discipline that made everything else possible. Things You Will Learn: Why Marine Corps culture builds a different standard than any other branch, and what that culture actually demands. The reason harsh physical conditions produce life change that motivation, therapy, and comfort cannot replicate. What a military selection show reveals about who actually quits and who surprises everyone by lasting. Tools & Frameworks Covered: Equal Load: Whether 110 pounds or 300, the weight is the same. Removing special treatment forces honest performance and reveals who has trained their mind, not just their body. Harsh Conditions as the Mechanism: The transformation people report after Spartan races and military selections is not from coaching or inspiration. It is from sustained physical discomfort that resets the nervous system and strips away excuses. Attack the Day Protocol: Get blood flowing immediately. Sing, pace, squeeze. Speak your day into existence before the world speaks it for you. Start physical before you start mental. Special Forces: World's Toughest Test premieres Thursday, Sept. 24 at 9/8c on FOX, next day on Hulu. Chapters: 0:00 Intro: Rudy Reyes, Recon Marine, and his first Spartan race at Killington <span class= "author-d-1gg9uz65z1iz85zgdz68zmqkz84zo2qowz80zsz81z9ytz75zz83zc2kz79zwz71zz75znvz67
- Sep 15, 202622 min
Ashley Hunter on FitKids, 195 Schools, and Why Kids Need Hard Things Before They Need Anything Else
Ashley Hunter walked away from investment banking to teach kids how to move. Fifteen years later, Fit Kids operates in 195 schools across 13 states and has reached roughly 500,000 children. Joe De Sena sits down with Ashley to talk about why kids who already face hard lives every day benefit most from structured physical activity, how her program turns reluctant participants into kids who say burpees are their favorite exercise, and what any parent can do at home with zero equipment and zero money. Things You Will Learn: Why low-income kids in under-resourced schools lose access to physical activity first, and what Fit Kids does to reverse it. The approach that turns kids who are afraid of exercise into kids who request burpees by name. What any parent can do at home with bodyweight exercises and zero budget to build physical confidence in their children. Tools & Frameworks Covered: Make Fitness the Game: Embed burpees, lunges, and squats inside obstacle courses and relay races so kids associate effort with fun, not punishment. "You Can Do Hard Things. Period.": One sentence, no negotiation. Use it as a universal response when a child says something is too hard. End the conversation there. Free Bodyweight Protocol for Home" Push-ups, burpees, lunges, squats. No equipment. No cost. Available through fitkids.org for any parent who asks. Chapters: 0:00 Intro: Ashley Hunter has reached 500,000 kids through fitness 1:29 Growing up in Wayzata, Minnesota, with three sisters and a dad who wanted a boy 02:21 From investment banking to teaching to founding Fit Kids 3:44 How Fit Kids started at one school and grew to 195 5:44 Jay Jackson: the Green Beret's son who trained in the dark and disarmed an attacker 7:40 Physical activity teaches kids how to persevere through hard lives <span class= "author-d-1gg9uz65z1iz85zgdz68zmqkz84zo2qowz80zsz81z9ytz75zz83zc2kz79zwz71zz75znvz67zixvcz65zrz67zz73zz73zz85zdz87zz85z"
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Learn the Spartan mindset. Founder & CEO of Spartan Race and NY Times best-selling author, travels the globe seeking answers from authors, academics, athletes, adventurers, entrepreneurs, CEOs and thought leaders. It will shift your thinking, make you laugh and give you the tools you need. He's on a mission to find the secrets to success in all aspects of life. Not only does Joe interview epic people, he has brought together an amazing panel to break down and analyze every aspect of these interviews. We give you the ultimate blueprint and action steps to assimilating these powerful conversations into your own life.
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