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- Today55 min
Leaving Your Day Job and Scaling a Food Blog with Pinterest with Sharlene Murrell
Leveraging Pinterest for growth and the "ready, fire, aim" mindset with Sharlene Murrell of Good Enough Moming. ----- Welcome to episode 571 of The Food Blogger Pro Podcast! This week on the podcast, Bjork interviews Sharlene Murrell. Leaving Your Day Job and Scaling a Food Blog with Pinterest with Sharlene Murrell In this episode, Bjork Ostrom sits down with Sharlene to explore her journey of building a thriving food blog by mastering Pinterest. Sharlene shares how adopting a "ready, fire, aim" mindset and overcoming early struggles with keyword research helped her rapidly scale her traffic and income after leaving her day job. The conversation also dives into actionable Pinterest strategies, including targeting broad keywords, creating multiple pins per post, and leveraging tools like Canva. They round out the conversation with practical advice on capitalizing on seasonal trends, maintaining consistency, and overcoming imposter syndrome. No matter where you are in your food blogging journey, this episode is packed with inspiration and tactics for creators ready to take action! Three episode takeaways: The "ready, fire, aim" mindset: Sharlene's success highlights the importance of the "ready, fire, aim" approach. Launching quickly and iterating based on feedback can accelerate your growth and help you identify what resonates with your audience. Leveraging Pinterest for growth: By mastering keyword research and targeting broad keywords, Sharlene effectively used Pinterest to drive significant traffic to her blog. Consistency and understanding the platform's seasonal nature are crucial for success. How to repurpose content creatively: Sharlene emphasizes the value of repurposing content across different platforms and formats. This strategy not only saves time but also maximizes exposure and engagement with diverse audiences! Resources: Good Enough Moming Farmhouse on Boone Raptive Mediavine The Simple Pin Podcast PinClicks PinnerAnalytics EasyPinScheduler PinnerPress Canva Chuy's Follow Sharlene on Instagram and Pinterest Join the Food Blogger Pro Podcast Facebook Group Thank you to our sponsors! This episode is sponsored by Yoast. Learn more about our sponsors at foodbloggerpro.com/sponsors. Interested in working with us too? Learn more about our sponsorship opportunities and how to get started here. If you have any comments, questions, or suggestions for interviews, be sure to email them to podcast@foodbloggerpro.com. Learn more about joining the Food Blogger Pro community at foodbloggerpro.com/membership.
- 1 weeks ago50 min
How Jenn Lueke Grew to 1.7 Million Followers with Budget Meal Planning Content
Strategies for growing on Instagram and Substack, the importance of staying consistent, and leaning into data with Jenn Lueke from Jenn Eats Goood. ----- Welcome to episode 570 of The Food Blogger Pro Podcast! This week on the podcast, Bjork interviews Jenn Lueke. How Jenn Lueke Grew to 1.7 Million Followers with Budget Meal Planning Content Jenn Lueke started Jenn Eats Goood in 2018 as a college student — no strategy, no monetization plan, just a hobby Instagram account she loved running. For five years, growth was slow, but she remained consistent. Then in 2023, something clicked. She leaned into meal planning and budget grocery content, and everything changed. Within a year, she went from stalling in the thousands to crossing one million followers. In this episode, Jenn and Bjork chat about all of it — what finally worked, how she prioritizes data in her content strategy, which platforms she's focusing on right now, and why she now considers her Substack newsletter her number one priority. Three episode takeaways: The importance of leaning into what is working — It took five years of trial and error, learning, experimenting, and testing before Jenn's following on social media started to grow. Her meal planning content really resonated with her audience, so she capitalized on the momentum of the series to grow her community (rather than reinventing the wheel)! How Jenn built her team — Growth brings new challenges, and Jenn is candid about how hard it was to build a team in the beginning and what the division of labor looks like now that she's figured it out. Why Jenn made Substack her number one priority — After just a couple of years, Substack is now the biggest revenue driver in Jenn's business. She and Bjork talk about how she balances free and paid content, what drives growth on Substack, and why it is the most important part of her business right now. Resources: Jenn Eats Goood Liz Moody Buy Back Your Time by Dan Martell Q&A: Using Substack as a Food Creator — for Food Blogger Pro members Don't Think About Dinner Follow Jenn on Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, Substack, and YouTube Join the Food Blogger Pro Podcast Facebook Group Thank you to our sponsors! This episode is sponsored by Clariti. Interested in working with us too? Learn more about our sponsorship opportunities and how to get started here. If you have any comments, questions, or suggestions for interviews, be sure to email them to podcast@foodbloggerpro.com. Learn more about joining the Food Blogger Pro community at foodbloggerpro.com/membership.
- 2 weeks ago54 min
How to Write Emails Your Readers Actually Want to Open with Liz Wilcox
Building a thriving email list, setting boundaries for your business, and leaning into your voice with Liz Wilcox. ----- Welcome to episode 569 of The Food Blogger Pro Podcast! This week on the podcast, Bjork interviews Liz Wilcox. How to Write Emails Your Readers Actually Want to Open Early on in Liz's career as a content creator, she noticed a pattern: the most successful creators all had one thing in common — a thriving email list. So she started hers from day one, and she never looked back. In the following years, Liz sold her travel blog, went all in on teaching email marketing, built a membership with 4,000 members, and — plot twist — competed on Survivor while her business kept running, generating $1,000 a day in revenue while she was literally on an island with no phone. In this episode, Liz and Bjork talk about what it actually takes to build an email list that drives real business results, how she transitioned from one-on-one client work to a scalable membership model, and why she believes the biggest thing holding most creators back from email success isn't strategy — it's that they've stopped sounding like themselves. She also shares the mindset shifts, boundary-setting practices, and growth tactics that have made her business not just profitable, but genuinely sustainable. Three episode takeaways: Why email is the most important investment you can make in your business — Liz shares the tactics that have worked for building her list and her membership to 4,000 members, including live events, collaborations, freebie swaps, and affiliate marketing. She also talks about why getting in front of people and showing your face matters more than ever and why giving people a real reason to trust you is the foundation everything else is built on. How Liz built a business with real boundaries — From knowing what "enough" looks like financially to the practice of saying no, Liz talks about the discipline and intentionality that have shaped her business. The biggest email mistakes food creators make (and how to fix them) — Liz has seen a lot of creator newsletters, and she knows exactly where things go wrong. She shares the most common mistakes she sees and why leaning into your humanity, writing like yourself, and showing that you're genuinely invested in your readers can make all the difference. Resources: LizWilcox.com Kirk DeWindt Morgan Housel Kit Craft + Commerce Liz's Email Marketing Membership Follow Liz on Instagram and Facebook Join the Food Blogger Pro Podcast Facebook Group Thank you to our sponsors! This episode is sponsored by Yoast and zZest. Interested in working with us too? Learn more about our sponsorship opportunities and how to get started here. If you have any comments, questions, or suggestions for interviews, be sure to email them to podcast@foodbloggerpro.com. Learn more about joining the Food Blogger Pro community at foodbloggerpro.com/membership.
- 3 weeks ago31 min
Food Blogging News Roundtable: AI Buttons, Instagram Links, and Google Rewriting Your Titles
Breaking down the pros and cons of AI Buttons, discussing clickable links in Instagram, and digging into Google's test replacing search titles with AI-generated titles with Bjork Ostrom and Emily Walker from Food Blogger Pro. ----- Welcome to episode 568 of The Food Blogger Pro Podcast! This week on the podcast, Bjork is sitting down to chat with Emily Walker from the Food Blogger Pro team! Food Blogging News Roundtable: AI Buttons, Instagram Links, and Google Rewriting Your Titles In this roundtable episode, Bjork and Emily break down the biggest stories impacting food creators so you can stay informed and make smart decisions for your business. From a new HubSpot marketing report that has some encouraging news for creators who lead with their personality, to a quiet Google experiment that could have big implications for every recipe title you've ever carefully crafted — there's a lot to cover! Bjork and Emily also dig into the AI button debate (should you install one on your site?), what Instagram's new caption link test means for food bloggers, and how Pinch of Yum approaches testing site changes before rolling them out broadly. Four episode takeaways: Good news for food creators who show up as real humans — 63% of marketers say that more unique, human-centered content is now required to stand out. Bjork and Emily break down what this means for food bloggers specifically, why short-form video has the highest ROI of any content format right now, and why thinking of yourself as a marketer — with a novel, standout, distinct brand — is more important than ever. Everything you need to know about AI buttons — Should you install an AI button on your site? Bjork and Emily explain what AI buttons are, how they work, and the pros and cons of adding one from both a user experience and SEO perspective. Instagram is testing clickable links in post captions — For the first time in Instagram's history, the platform is testing the ability to embed clickable links directly inside post captions. Right now the feature is limited to Meta Verified subscribers, but if it rolls out broadly it would be a meaningful shift for food creators. Bjork and Emily discuss what this could mean for your content strategy and what we know (and don't know) so far. Google is experimenting with replacing your titles with AI-generated ones — As part of a small experiment, Google is testing replacing original post titles with AI-generated titles in traditional search results, with the stated goal of rewriting "tone and intent to better match queries and boost engagement." Bjork and Emily break down why this is concerning for food bloggers — from negating careful keyword research and ruining brand voice to creating a mismatch with user intent — and how this differs from Google's long-standing practice of rewriting meta descriptions. Resources: The State of Marketing AI buttons: Smart UX play, risky GEO tactic, or both? Feast Hubbub Shareaholic Instagram tests clickable links in post captions for Meta Verified users Google confirms AI headline rewrites test in Search results SEO Testing What Food Bloggers Need to Know About AI Search and the Fight for Fair Traffic with Adam Gallagher from Inspired Taste Join the Food Blogger Pro Podcast Facebook Group Thank you to our sponsors! This episode is sponsored by Member Kitchens and zZest. Interested in working with us too? Learn more about our sponsorship opportunities and how to get started here. If you have any comments, questions, or suggestions for interviews, be sure to email them to podcast@foodbloggerpro.com. Learn more about joining the Food Blogger Pro community at foodbloggerpro.com/membership.
- 4 weeks ago50 min
How to Write a Cookbook Proposal and Land a Book Deal with Sally Ekus
Writing a compelling book proposal, demystifying the financial reality of cookbook publishing, and sharing what publishers are looking for in a cookbook author with Sally Ekus from The Ekus Group. ----- Welcome to episode 567 of The Food Blogger Pro Podcast! This week on the podcast, Bjork interviews Sally Ekus. How to Write a Cookbook Proposal and Land a Book Deal with Sally Ekus Have you ever wondered what it actually takes to get a cookbook deal — and whether your platform is big enough to make it happen? Sally Ekus, a literary agent specializing in the cookbook space, is here to pull back the curtain on the entire process. In this episode, Sally shares exactly what she looks for when evaluating potential cookbook authors, how to build a proposal that stands out, and what a realistic book deal might look like depending on the size of your audience. Whether you're dreaming of a cookbook or just starting to explore the idea, this episode will give you a clear and honest roadmap for what the path forward actually looks like. Three episode takeaways: What publishers are really looking for in a cookbook author — Sally breaks down the four pillars she evaluates in every potential author: platform, concept, voice, and personality. She explains why your social media following matters (and which platforms publishers care most about), why a consistent email newsletter can set you apart, and how to demonstrate that you can actually convert your audience into book buyers. How to write a compelling cookbook proposal — A great proposal goes far beyond a list of recipes. Sally walks through what to include, how to articulate your unique concept, and why aligning your book idea with the stories you already tell in your content is so important. She also shares how a standout proposal can help offset a smaller following — because showing how you reach your audience is just as important as how many people you reach. The financial reality of cookbook publishing — From the structure of a book advance to earning it out, royalties, and what a deal might realistically look like based on your platform size, Sally demystifies the money side of cookbook publishing. She also makes the case for why many creators write cookbooks even knowing most won't earn beyond the advance — brand extension, legacy, and sharing a meaningful message are all powerful reasons to pursue it. Resources: The Ekus Group Not So Secret Agent 391: Behind the Scenes of the Cookbook Publishing Process with Sally Ekus JVNLA Lat14 Karyn Tomlinson Theo of Golden Pinch of Yum Follow Sally on Instagram Join the Food Blogger Pro Podcast Facebook Group Thank you to our sponsors! This episode is sponsored by Yoast. Interested in working with us too? Learn more about our sponsorship opportunities and how to get started here. If you have any comments, questions, or suggestions for interviews, be sure to email them to podcast@foodbloggerpro.com. Learn more about joining the Food Blogger Pro community at foodbloggerpro.com/membership
- Apr 14, 202653 min
What Food Bloggers Need to Know About AI Search and the Fight for Fair Traffic with Adam Gallagher from Inspired Taste
Navigating the AI Search landscape and advocating for fair traffic for food bloggers with Adam Gallagher from Inspired Taste. ----- Welcome to episode 566 of The Food Blogger Pro Podcast! This week on the podcast, Bjork interviews Adam Gallagher from Inspired Taste. What Food Bloggers Need to Know About AI Search and the Fight for Fair Traffic Adam and Joanne Gallagher have been running Inspired Taste since 2009 — long enough to have lived through every major shift in how Google works, from early SEO best practices to AI Overviews. But what's happening right now feels different, and Adam isn't staying quiet about it. In this episode, Adam and Bjork dig into the current state of search from the perspective of a creator who has spent 15+ years playing by Google's rules — only to watch those rules change in ways that feel fundamentally unfair to creators. This is also a conversation about what comes next — equal parts anxiety and optimism — and what creators can actually do right now to advocate for a more fair and sustainable version of AI-powered search. Three episode takeaways: What AI Overviews are doing to your traffic — Adam breaks down what position zero actually means and how AI Overviews are affecting the gap between impressions and click-through rates. He and Bjork also unpack the strange irony at the heart of the current moment: Google spent years penalizing creators for scaled content, and is now surfacing AI-generated recipes — essentially the definition of scaled content — at the top of search results. Why Adam chose to block AI crawlers from Inspired Taste — Adam shares the reasoning behind his decision to block ChatGPT, Perplexity, and Claude from crawling his site, and why he believes creators have both the right and the responsibility to push back on how their content is being used. What you can do now to improve the future of search for food creators — Adam shares what he believes needs to change in how Google handles AI Mode and AI search results to make them more fair for creators, and why he thinks advocacy could actually move the needle. He also talks about the importance of communicating directly with your audience about what's happening to help them understand why supporting independent creators and seeking out real, tested recipes matters (watch the two Reels linked in the Resources section to see how Adam and Joanne are doing this at Inspired Taste). Resources: Inspired Taste AI Slop Recipes Are Taking Over the Internet — And Thanksgiving Dinner Raptive Pinch of Yum Cloudflare NerdPress The Last Invention Robby Stein Rajan Patel First Instagram Reel about AI Recipes Second Instagram Reel about AI Recipes NBC News: Why AI holiday recipes can't handle the heat Follow Inspired Taste on Instagram and Adam on LinkedIn Join the Food Blogger Pro Podcast Facebook Group Thank you to our sponsors! This episode is sponsored by Clariti. Interested in working with us too? Learn more about our sponsorship opportunities and how to get started here. If you have any comments, questions, or suggestions for interviews, be sure to email them to podcast@foodbloggerpro.com. Learn more about joining the Food Blogger Pro community at foodbloggerpro.com/membership.
- Apr 7, 202653 min
How to Keep Creating Without Burning Out with Ashlea Carver from All the Healthy Things
Prioritizing joy-led content creation, leaning into email, and building a sustainable business as a food creator with Ashlea Carver from All the Healthy Things. ----- Welcome to episode 565 of The Food Blogger Pro Podcast! This week on the podcast, Bjork interviews Ashlea Carver from All the Healthy Things. How to Keep Creating Without Burning Out Ashlea Carver has been creating food content for ten years, and in that time she's built a well-rounded and financially diversified businesses. But longevity in this industry isn't just about strategy — it's about learning how to navigate the harder parts of being a creator online. In this episode, Ashlea and Bjork dig into the mindset shifts that have kept her going — how she handles comparison and how she's made a deliberate choice to lead with joy in her business decisions to avoid burnout. They also get into the practical side of her business — why her blog is still her most valuable platform and biggest revenue driver, why she's prioritizing email, and how she thinks about Instagram in an era where personality-forward content is so important. It's an honest conversation about building a business that lasts — one that doesn't burn you out, doesn't make you dependent on any single platform, and actually feels good to run. Three episode takeaways: Why slowing down is one of the most important things you can do for your business — Ashlea shares why she carves out intentional time a few times a year for an "owner's retreat" — a dedicated window to step back, assess what's working and what isn't, and make decisions from a place of clarity rather than reaction. She and Bjork talk about the difference between being driven by purpose versus being driven by numbers, and why leaning into joy is a legitimate business strategy. Why your blog and email list are still your most valuable assets — Ashlea shares why her blog remains her biggest revenue driver and why owning your platform matters now more than ever. She also explains how she's built an email strategy around three weekly broadcasts, what she's experimenting with on the paid subscriber side, and why email is the best buffer she has against algorithm changes. How Ashlea is thinking about AI, Instagram, and the future of her brand — From her decision to bring more personality into her content as a direct response to the rise of AI, to her thoughtful reluctance to lean too heavily into AI tools in her own workflow, Ashlea shares a refreshingly intentional approach to showing up online. She also breaks down what her monetization mix actually looks like — ad revenue, sponsored content, affiliate — and why she hired an agency to help manage brand partnerships. Resources: All the Healthy Things Fit Foodie Finds Grow Your Email List and Connect with Your Audience with Allea Grummert Duett 398: The Importance of Surveying Your Audience with Email with Allea Grummert 288: Email for Bloggers – Maximizing the Value of Your Email List with Allea Grummert 229: Email Marketing – Strategies for Bloggers with Allea Grummert Kit Grocers List Mediavine Raptive Turning Followers into Revenue with Ben Jabbawy from Grocers List How Molly Thompson Grew Her Email List from 15K to 100K Using AI to Eliminate Busywork and Unlock Creative Time with Jason Glaspey CookIt Media Sally McKenney from Sally's Baking Addiction on Creating Success Follow Ashlea on Instagram Join the Food Blogger Pro Podcast Facebook Group Than
- Mar 31, 20261h 1m
Reinventing a Food Blog After an 80% Traffic Drop with Carrie Forrest from Clean Eating Kitchen
What happens when SEO stops working, rebuilding after a major traffic drop, and navigating AI and the future of blogging with Carrie Forrest from Clean Eating Kitchen. ----- Welcome to episode 564 of The Food Blogger Pro Podcast! This week on the podcast, Bjork interviews Carrie Forrest from Clean Eating Kitchen. Reinventing a Food Blog After an 80% Traffic Drop Carrie Forrest has been blogging since 2009 and has experienced the full range of highs and lows that come with building an online business. When Bjork first interviewed her in 2018, she was already growing Clean Eating Kitchen with simple, healthy recipes and a strong foundation in SEO and keyword research. Between 2022 and 2024, that strategy paid off in a big way — Carrie grew her site from a few hundred thousand monthly pageviews to nearly one million. But with the rollout of AI Overviews, many of the keyword-driven and how-to posts she relied on were hit hard, leading to an 80% traffic drop almost overnight. In this episode, Carrie shares how she's navigating this rebuild season — from leaning into her email list and YouTube to focusing on what AI can't replicate: human connection, empathy, and transformation. It's an honest conversation about the shifting landscape for online creators and what reinvention can look like after years of success. Three episode takeaways: Why it can be difficult to diversify when one strategy is working extremely well — We talk all the time about the importance of diversifying your revenue and traffic streams, but that can be hard to do in reality! Carrie talks about why she struggled to listen to that advice and how hard it is to focus energy on diversifying when your current strategy is doing so well. How Carrie is approaching a rebuild season after an 80% drop in traffic — Bjork and Carrie discuss the ebbs and flows of running an online business, how Carrie recovers from big traffic dips, and how a beginner mindset is helping her feel more creative than ever before. Why focusing on human connection, creativity, and audience relationships matters more than ever — Carrie shares her current outlook for her blog and explains why she is leaning into her humanity and connection with her audience instead of information and transaction. Resources: Clean Eating Kitchen 152: 6 Blogging Mistakes Made By a Veteran Food Blogger with Carrie Forrest 278: Lessons from a Veteran Food Blogger – How to Overcome a 60% Dip in Traffic with Carrie Forrest Media Wyse TopHatRank The Money Café with Alan Kohler NerdPress February Blogging Newsletter — debunking the myth that search is dying, AI Frankenstein recipes, Pinterest, and more! The Gap and The Gain Follow Carrie on Instagram, YouTube, and Facebook Join the Food Blogger Pro Podcast Facebook Group Thank you to our sponsors! This episode is sponsored by Yoast and Clariti. Interested in working with us too? Learn more about our sponsorship opportunities and how to get started here. If you have any comments, questions, or suggestions for interviews, be sure to email them to podcast@foodbloggerpro.com. Learn more about joining the Food Blogger Pro community at foodbloggerpro.com/membership.
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