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Point of Relation podcast illuminates the path to collective healing at the intersection of science and mysticism. Host Thomas Huebl welcomes visionaries, innovators, artists, and healers for deep conversations about how we can activate our shared intelligence to meet the most pressing challenges of our time.
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- 1 weeks ago1h 6m
Creating a Global Healing Movement with Dr. Laura Calderón De La Barca
This week, Thomas sits down with psychotherapist, cultural analyst, author, and educator Dr. Laura Calderón de la Barca to discuss the growing global movement for collective trauma healing and explore why addressing our shared wounds is vital to addressing today's biggest systemic crises.They dive deep into how trauma-informed media can decrease cultural polarization, and explain why the climate movement and contemplative spirituality must become trauma-informed to activate the global immune system and liquefy the frozen trauma that’s holding us back from real progress, presence, and authentic spiritual growth. ✨ Watch the video version of this episode on YouTube:👉 https://youtu.be/4Sp4hFRda-AVideo episodes are typically posted at 8am PT/ 11am ETFor more episodes of the Point of Relation podcast, visit: https://pointofrelationpodcast.com/Join Thomas and leading psychologists, clinical practitioners, artists, teachers, and cultural leaders for ✨ Healers on Healing ✨, a free online event from September 17-19.Dr. Sharon Salzberg, Michael Meade, Dr. Mariel Buqué, and more will engage in ten in-depth conversations exploring how healing happens, what we experience, and how it shapes the future.Learn more and sign up for free here 👉 https://conversationsonhealing.com✨ Dr. Laura Calderón de la Barca is a psychotherapist, cultural analyst, author, and educator. She provides professional training, educational material, and research, and has offered presentations on various national media in Mexico and Canada. She has studied with Thomas Hübl since 2016, has participated in the last three Collective Trauma Summits as a panelist and then a host, facilitated the Latin American, Mexican, and Colombian Collective Trauma Exploration Labs, and hosts BIPOC spaces in courses offered by Thomas. Learn more and connect with Laura here: https://www.terapiaparamexico.com/english/aboutus.htmlThomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Point of Relation Podcast: https://pointofrelationpodcast.comFacebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl✨ Order Thomas and Internal Family Systems founder Dr. Richard Schwartz's co-authored book, Releasing Our Burdens, here:👉 https://www.releasingourburdens.comTake our listener survey! We'd love your feedback on which topics and guests are resonating with you and which ones you'd like to hear more about in the future:👉 https://forms.gle/uoygyKMmHeUHeJFD9
- 2 weeks ago50 min
Living and Embodying Your Meditation Practice with Susanne Ahlendorf & Martin Bruders
This week, meditation experts Susanne Ahlendorf and Martin Bruders are back for a conversation with Thomas on the important role of meditation in a committed spiritual practice and how to embody a meditative state in everyday life.They discuss the relationship between meditative and spiritual practices and trauma healing, how to connect to and receive guidance from your inner heart space, and how your practice can transcend silent sitting to become a conduit for spiritual growth and deeper intuition.✨ Watch the video version of this episode on YouTube:👉 https://youtu.be/NLzsOcIViE8Video episodes are typically posted at 8am PT/ 11am ETFor more episodes of the Point of Relation podcast, visit: https://pointofrelationpodcast.com/Join Susanne and Martin this fall for their new 4-week meditation course - ✨ Embodying Meditation: Living Your Practice ✨This immersive 4online course invites you to step beyond the limits of your daily to-do list and the repetitive patterns of the mind.Explore how to transition from the effort of “doing” meditation to the grace of living your practice—transforming it into the foundation for how you show up in the world.Learn more and join the course here 👉 https://thomashuebl.com/meditation-course-sept-2026You can also join Thomas and leading psychologists, clinical practitioners, artists, teachers, and cultural leaders for ✨ Healers on Healing ✨, a free online event from September 17-19.Dr. Sharon Salzberg, Michael Meade, Dr. Mariel Buqué, and more will engage in ten in-depth conversations exploring how healing happens, what we experience, and how it shapes the future.Learn more and sign up for free here 👉 https://conversationsonhealing.comExplore more teachings and meditations from Martin and Susanne via their co-founded organization, Make Space for Grace 👉 https://www.makespaceforgrace.de ... and on their YouTube Channel 👉 http://www.youtube.com/@MeditationEnglish✨ Susanne Ahlendorf is a non-medical practitioner for psychotherapy, a group leader for meditation and Inner Science practice, who accompanies people on their personal and spiritual development path. For her, meditation is a way of unfolding love in life.Connect with Susanne here:👉 https://www.susanneahlendorf.de✨ Martin Bruders is a qualified social worker, mediator, and coach. He worked for over 28 years as a comedian and presenter at over 2000 corporate events in Germany, Austria, and Switzerland. His inner exploration journey is as much about his meditation practice as it is about his daily life. He loves to permeate life deeper and deeper, always in search of intimacy with the divine; sometimes succeeding, sometimes failing.Connect with Martin here:👉 https://www.martinbruders.deThomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Point of Relation Podcast: https://pointofrelationpodcast.comFacebook: <a href="https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target=
- 3 weeks ago55 min
Dr. Britt Wray | Transformational Resilience in the Climate Crisis
This week, Thomas sits down with award-winning researcher, author, and science communicator Britt Wray to discuss the need for collective care, systemic action, and spiritual introspection in addressing the climate crisis and its psychological effects.Britt offers an approach to climate anxiety, called “Transformational Resilience,” that focuses on channeling emotional distress into meaningful action and care, rather than resorting to denial or returning to an unhelpful baseline.She and Thomas also explore how climate action is like a relay race, where action is sustained over time by passing the baton, and how acting in alignment with environmental values reduces cognitive dissonance and fosters emotional well-being.✨ Watch the video version of this episode on YouTube:👉 https://youtu.be/qP5Iq4gBcPEVideo episodes are typically posted at 8am PT/ 11am ETFor more episodes of the Point of Relation podcast, visit: https://pointofrelationpodcast.com/Join Thomas and leading psychologists, clinical practitioners, artists, teachers, and cultural leaders for ✨ Healers on Healing ✨, a free online event from September 17-19.Dr. Sharon Salzberg, Michael Meade, Dr. Mariel Buqué, and more will engage in ten in-depth conversations exploring how healing happens, what we experience, and how it shapes the future.Learn more and sign up for free here 👉 https://conversationsonhealing.com✨ Dr. Britt Wray is an award-winning researcher, author, and science communicator focused on the mental health impacts of climate change. She directs CIRCLE at Stanford Psychiatry and also founded Unthinkable, a nonprofit addressing the climate-mental health crisis. Britt is the author of Generation Dread, a bestselling book on climate anxiety, and a leading voice in the emerging field of climate psychology. She’s received multiple honors, including the 2025 American Climate Leadership Award (Runner-Up) and the 2023 Canadian Eco-Hero Award. As a TED and World Economic Forum speaker, Britt brings global attention to the emotional toll of the ecological crisis.Connect with Britt here 👉 https://www.brittwray.comThomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Point of Relation Podcast: https://pointofrelationpodcast.comFacebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl✨ Order Thomas and Internal Family Systems founder Dr. Richard Schwartz's co-authored book, Releasing Our Burdens, here:👉 https://www.releasingourburdens.com
- Aug 18, 202647 min
Harnessing Your Energetic Potential
This week, Thomas shares a teaching on what fuels your life energy and how this connects to your spiritual health and sense of purpose.Thomas focuses in on the idea of interdependence, or interconnectedness, and how your vitality is dependent on relational dynamics, co-regulation, and collective wellness.He explores healing modalities and spiritual practices that can recharge your energetic battery, with wisdom on how to shift from repetitive, stagnant patterns to emergent, authentic movements.✨ Watch the video version of this episode on YouTube:👉 https://youtu.be/GruhKm9RwGUVideo episodes are typically posted at 8am PT/ 11am ETFor more episodes of the Point of Relation podcast, visit: https://pointofrelationpodcast.com/Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Point of Relation Podcast: https://pointofrelationpodcast.comFacebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl✨ Order Thomas and Internal Family Systems founder Dr. Richard Schwartz's co-authored book, Releasing Our Burdens, here:👉 https://www.releasingourburdens.comTake our listener survey! We'd love your feedback on which topics and guests are resonating with you and which ones you'd like to hear more about in the future:👉 https://forms.gle/uoygyKMmHeUHeJFD9
- Aug 11, 202637 min
Initiation, Awakening, and Transcendence
This week, Thomas shares a teaching on becoming grounded to integrate ancestral wisdom and initiate yourself into the digital age in a spiritually centered and holistic way.He explores the perspective shifts that occur in both healing and spiritual awakening, and how we can harness this transformative power to heal collectively and evolve technologically without abandoning spiritual connection.Thomas also discusses the importance of embracing uncertainty to expand your consciousness, what it means to truly process the past, and how to open yourself to your unique, higher calling.✨ Watch the video version of this episode on YouTube:👉 https://youtu.be/3s4ULNqNfzsVideo episodes are typically posted at 8am PT/ 11am ETFor more episodes of the Point of Relation podcast, visit: https://pointofrelationpodcast.com/Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Point of Relation Podcast: https://pointofrelationpodcast.comFacebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl✨ Order Thomas and Internal Family Systems founder Dr. Richard Schwartz's co-authored book, Releasing Our Burdens, here:👉 https://www.releasingourburdens.comTake our listener survey! We'd love your feedback on which topics and guests are resonating with you and which ones you'd like to hear more about in the future:👉 https://forms.gle/uoygyKMmHeUHeJFD9
- Aug 4, 202647 min
Ashanti Kunene | Spiritually Embodied Leadership
This week, Thomas sits down with Ashanti Kunene, an activist, slam poet, writer, and the founder of Learning 2 Unlearn, for a conversation about spiritual alignment and integrity in leadership and the connection between individual healing and systems change.In a time when we’re all faced with the repercussions of intergenerational trauma, oppressive systems, and unethical leadership, those of us who feel called to facilitate change must first confront our personal narratives, ethics, and shadow-self so that our actions align with our inner spiritual and moral compass.Ashanti and Thomas explore what that really looks like, what people in positions of power are truly responsible and accountable for, and what we can learn from the good AND the bad deeds of those who came before us.✨ Watch the video version of this episode on YouTube:👉 https://youtu.be/vGKfLeyFKisVideo episodes are typically posted at 8am PT/ 11am ETFor more episodes of the Point of Relation podcast, visit: https://pointofrelationpodcast.com/✨ Ashanti Kunene is an art activist, slam poet, published writer, two-time TEDx speaker, and the founder of Learning 2 Unlearn – a decolonial strategic narratives consultancy cultivating leadership coherence in the context of the polycrisis. She also serves as the Co-Lead of the Transforming Wealth Lab for the Joseph Rowntree Foundation.Connect with Ashanti here 👉 https://www.learning2unlearn.comThomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Point of Relation Podcast: https://pointofrelationpodcast.comFacebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl✨ Order Thomas and Internal Family Systems founder Dr. Richard Schwartz's co-authored book, Releasing Our Burdens, here:👉 https://www.releasingourburdens.comTake our listener survey! We'd love your feedback on which topics and guests are resonating with you and which ones you'd like to hear more about in the future:👉 https://forms.gle/uoygyKMmHeUHeJFD9
- Jul 28, 20261h 1m
Michael Meade | The Courageous Path of the Heart
This week, Thomas sits down with mythologist Michael Meade for a conversation about initiations, awakenings, and how to access your innate gifts to be a transformative force in a world in crisis.Michael shares about his formative experience as a conscientious objector during the Vietnam War, and how the confinement, isolation, and trauma that he endured informed his spiritual development and life philosophy.He and Thomas look at the current uncertain state of the world where old structures are collapsing as a liminal space where the new world has not yet been born. Michael argues that healing and evolving into a better world requires us to be present with conflict, sustain soulful connections, maintain creative and contemplative practices, and find the courage from our heart to lean into our authentic, imperfect selves.✨ Watch the video version of this episode on YouTube:👉 https://youtu.be/WxJM-YICdkQVideo episodes are typically posted at 8am PT/ 11am ETFor more episodes of the Point of Relation podcast, visit: https://pointofrelationpodcast.com/✨ Michael Meade, D.H.L., is a renowned storyteller, author, and scholar of mythology, anthropology, and psychology. He combines hypnotic storytelling, street-savvy perceptiveness, and spellbinding interpretations of ancient myths with a deep knowledge of cross-cultural rituals. He is the creator of the Living Myth Podcast, and the founder of Mosaic Multicultural Foundation, a nonprofit that encourages greater understanding between diverse peoples.Connect with Michael here 👉 https://www.mosaicvoices.orgThomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Point of Relation Podcast: https://pointofrelationpodcast.comFacebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl✨ Order Thomas and Internal Family Systems founder Dr. Richard Schwartz's co-authored book, Releasing Our Burdens, here:👉 https://www.releasingourburdens.comTake our listener survey! We'd love your feedback on which topics and guests are resonating with you and which ones you'd like to hear more about in the future:👉 https://forms.gle/uoygyKMmHeUHeJFD9
- Jul 21, 202643 min
Kaira Jewel Lingo | Reconnecting to Nature, Spirit, and Presence
This week, Thomas sits down with Dharma teacher and author Kaira Jewel Lingo to explore how we can heal our deeply fractured relationship with the Earth and break out of the modern digital trance.Kaira shares her unique experience of transitioning out of monastic life as a nun and back into a fast-paced digital world. This experience gave her a unique perspective on how technology consumes our attention, and what’s needed to reconnect to our relationships, ourselves, our spirituality, and the earth.She and Thomas discuss how face-to-face connection can help us reclaim our presence, why our global crises stem from our disconnection with nature, and what’s needed for a collective re-awakening into an interconnected and embodied life that’s defined by care and curiosity instead of an isolated existence fueled by exploitation and inattention.✨ Watch the video version of this episode on YouTube:👉 https://youtu.be/xFKHhTFCAv8Video episodes are typically posted at 8am PT/ 11am ETFor more episodes of the Point of Relation podcast, visit: https://pointofrelationpodcast.com/✨ Kaira Jewel Lingo is a senior dharma teacher in the Zen lineage and also a Vipassana teacher. She is a member of the Plum Village North American Dharma Teachers Council of Elders. Based in New York, she is the author of We Were Made for These Times, co-author of Healing Our Way Home, and provides spiritual mentoring, focusing on racial and earth justice and engaged spirituality.Connect with Kaira here 👉 https://www.kairajewel.comIf you'd like to learn more about the Strother School of Radical Attention that Kaira references in the episode, visit their website: https://www.schoolofattention.orgThomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Point of Relation Podcast: https://pointofrelationpodcast.comFacebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl✨ Order Thomas and Internal Family Systems founder Dr. Richard Schwartz's co-authored book, Releasing Our Burdens, here:👉 https://www.releasingourburdens.comTake our listener survey! We'd love your feedback on which topics and guests are resonating with you and which ones you'd like to hear more about in the future:👉 https://forms.gle/uoygyKMmHeUHeJFD9
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Point of Relation podcast illuminates the path to collective healing at the intersection of science and mysticism. Host Thomas Huebl welcomes visionaries, innovators, artists, and healers for deep conversations about how we can activate our shared intelligence to meet the most pressing challenges of our time.
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