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Other People's Money is the premier podcast about the business side of the fund management industry. Every week Max Wiethe sits down to learn from some of the best entrepreneurial fund managers about their experience launching and growing a fund management business. OPM is not a show about the next hot stock pick or big trade but an inside look at an opaque and misunderstood industry guided by real professional fund managers who've done it themselves.
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- 1 weeks ago1h 0m
Hunting for Value in Mining Stocks Amid Soaring Metals Prices | Freddy Brick | Muddy Waters Capital
Precious metal and base metal prices have soared as have many mining stocks, but despite this, Freddy Brick, partner at Muddy Waters Capital says that the industry feels closer to left for dead than euphoric. He explains why that setup and the consistency of the mispricing in the sector brought them to launch a fund with the help of mining expert Darren McLean allowing them to take concentrated investments in the assets they think the market is overlooking while running lower net exposure. He also discusses how they think about hedging in the sector, why they take a bottom-up approach to portfolio construction, and how they approach short and long activism in the sector. Follow Muddy Waters on X: https://x.com/muddywatersre Follow Max on X: https://x.com/maxwiethe Follow Other People’s Money on: Apple Podcast https://bit.ly/4e7QJ1M Spotify https://bit.ly/3Yhaazi YouTube https://bit.ly/3C63VXR X https://x.com/opmpod Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 01:28 Approach to Portfolio Construction 07:56 Fraud Report Origin 09:35 Block Models Explained 15:27 Why Juniors Are Distressed 21:19 Finding Mispriced Projects 25:12 Venture Like Investing 28:25 Promoters and Capital Raising 33:43 Sentiment and Cycles 38:28 M&A Wave Ahead 43:27 Trading Vol and Hedging 46:57 Long Activism Approach 50:23 Scaling the Strategy 55:10 When Alpha Shows Up
- 2 weeks ago1h 1m
The Certainty Premium: What’s Driving the Tech Sector Divergence? | Jeff Keller
Max Wiethe sits down with Capelight Partners founder Jeff Keller to dissect the massive Q3 technology sector divergence and the rapidly shifting landscape of AI investments. Keller breaks down why the market is rewarding near-term certainty in the tech sector and why he doesn’t like the "blow-off top" comparison between AI and the ARK implosion of 2021. He also gives his outlook for usage-based software vs. application software and explains the east coast vs west coast divide in assessing hyperscaler capex. Follow Jeff Keller on X: https://x.com/jeffkeller1 Follow Max on X: https://x.com/maxwiethe Follow Other People’s Money on: Apple Podcast https://bit.ly/4e7QJ1M Spotify https://bit.ly/3Yhaazi YouTube https://bit.ly/3C63VXR X https://x.com/opmpod Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 01:13 Tech Sector Divergence 05:23 Cyber Infra Valuation Risks 08:09 Why Themes Beat Stock Picking 12:01 Valuation and Forecast Limits 17:35 Retail Crowding Warning 20:15 2021Parallels 23:33 Rising Rates and Funding the AI Buildout 27:28 Mag Seven Return Profile Shift 29:43 CapEx is Existential 35:17 Meta Breakdown 39:38 Investor Positioning Themes 41:34 Long Biased Long Short 43:55 What Would Break AI? 46:26 AI Echo Chamber Risk 49:06 Factor Awareness Extremes 51:55 Deleveraging July Playbook 56:58 Year End Watchlist 58:58 Anthropic IPO and SpaceX Effect 01:01:06 Conclusion
- 3 weeks ago1h 3m
Time to Reduce Equity Risk: Why Underappreciated Macro Risks Could Derail the Bull Market | Warren Pies
Learn More About Unlimited HFGM Global Macro ETF $HFGM: https://unlimitedetfs.com/globalmacro In this episode of "Other People's Money," host Max Wiethe welcomes back Warren Pies, co-founder of 3Fourteen Research, to unpack why macro risks are suddenly taking control of the stock market. Pies explains his tactical decision to downgrade stocks and commodities to neutral, shifting capital into cash as the market enters a historically weak seasonal window between August 15th and October 15th. The conversation dives deep into the Federal Reserve's true reaction function, the mispriced odds of a September rate hike, and the hidden political pressures driving the committee's choices. Furthermore, they discuss the critical data behind the AI build-out, including H200 GPU availability and the potential impact of major lab IPOs like Anthropic on the broader software sector. Save $500/year on Caliban AI from 3Fourteen Research: https://www.3fourteenresearch.com/monetary-matters Follow Warren Pies on X: https://x.com/WarrenPies Follow Max on X: https://x.com/maxwiethe Follow Other People’s Money on: Apple Podcast https://bit.ly/4e7QJ1M Spotify https://bit.ly/3Yhaazi YouTube https://bit.ly/3C63VXR X https://x.com/opmpod Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 01:21 Why Macro Takes Over 03:19 Earnings Season Structure 05:43 Upcoming Macro Catalysts 08:24 Fed Hike Odds Mispriced 10:37 Political Pressure on Fed 15:29 Sponsor Break HFGM 17:45 Coin Flip Meeting Dynamics 19:42 Rates Curve and Term Premium 24:54 How to Position in September 26:53 Tech Breadth and AI Cracks 30:17 Lab ARR Reality Check 34:40 Tech Leadership Needed 38:17 Data Center ROI Debate 40:36 Election and Policy Risk 43:44 AI Issuance Scapegoats 47:35 Energy as Diversifier 51:48 Anthropic IPO Impact 55:01 Software Versus Semis 58:28 Pair Trades and Correlations 01:01:19 Fade Macro Risk Playbook 01:02:55 Conclusion
- 3 weeks ago57 min
Is Private Equity Broken? Why the Buyside’s Problems Are Making 2026 “The Year of the Banker” | High Yield Harry
In this episode of Other People's Money, host Max Wiethe sits down with High Yield Harry to examine the major trends in Wall Street compensation and careers, and why 2026 may be the year of the investment banker. Harry shares data from Buy Side Hub to detail buy-side compensation trends, career mobility bottlenecks, and why private equity professionals are resorting to non-recourse loans while waiting on delayed exits. The conversation breaks down the real threat of AI automation on financial modeling and grunt work, emphasizing why finance professionals must develop real-economy operating skills to survive. They also address the surge in private credit redemptions, retail investor panic, and whether buying small businesses is replacing the traditional mega-fund career path. Check out Buyside Hub: https://www.buysidehub.com Follow High Yield Harry on X: https://x.com/HighyieldHarry Follow Max on X: https://x.com/maxwiethe Follow Other People’s Money on: Apple Podcast https://bit.ly/4e7QJ1M Spotify https://bit.ly/3Yhaazi YouTube https://bit.ly/3C63VXR X https://x.com/opmpod Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 00:45 Year of the Banker 03:38 Private Credit Redemptions 07:04 Retail Flows and Gating 10:18 Comp Trends and Hiring 13:17 Career Pyramid Reality 15:13 AI Reshapes Analyst Work 17:16 Big Firms vs Small Shops 20:27 Operators and Real Economy 23:56 Agents and Human Edge 26:39 Who Gets Displaced? 31:46 Rates and Longer Holds 37:42 Software Credit Time Bomb 41:16 Choosing Your Career Track 47:22 Top Jobs and Trading 51:56 Closing Takeaways 54:03 Banking Cycles and Layoffs 57:03 Conclusion
- Aug 13, 20261h 1m
Ex-Goya COO on the $1.4 Trillion Family Business Opportunity in Three Consumer Sectors | Andy Unanue
Andy Unanue, Founder and Managing Partner of AUA Private Equity Partners and former COO of Goya Foods breaks down the trillion-dollar opportunity in US food, beverage, and pet wellness family businesses. Andy shares how his experience in a family-run business shaped his firm's strategy of partnering with lower-middle-market, family-run companies across those sectors and explains how AUA unlocks 15% to 30% operational efficiencies. The discussion dives into major consumer trends, including the humanization of pets, the rise of ethnic food markets, and the impact of GLP-1 drugs on snacking habits. Finally, Andy offers actionable advice on navigating generational wealth transfers, building positive workplace cultures, and transitioning family enterprises for long-term success. Learn more about AUA Private Equity Partners: https://auaequity.com Follow Max on X: https://x.com/maxwiethe Follow Other People’s Money on: Apple Podcast https://bit.ly/4e7QJ1M Spotify https://bit.ly/3Yhaazi YouTube https://bit.ly/3C63VXR X https://x.com/opmpod Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 00:51 Goya Roots to PE 02:48 Market Size Focus 04:21 Operational Playbook 07:26 Exit Paths for Families 09:34 PE Exits and Buyers 13:18 Leaving Upside for the Next Buyer 16:17 Macro Trends Tailwinds 21:22 Beverage Bets and Risk 28:29 Authenticity Wins Consumers 31:41 Marketing and Internet Shift 36:10 Deal Sourcing and Moats 39:08 Co-Manufacturing Advantage 41:14 Regional Brands and Add Ons 44:56 Manufacturing Renaissance 53:34 Wealth Transfer and Family Offices 58:58 AUA Future and Wrap Up
- Jul 28, 20261h 8m
Luke Gromen: Yield Curve Control is the Only Way to Stop a Global Bond Crisis
Learn more about the Fundrise Income Fund here: https://Fundrise.com/mm Luke Gromen, founder of Forest for the Trees, sites down with Max Wiethe to dissect the escalating crisis in the global bond market. Gromen argues that off-balance sheet liabilities, such as baby boomer retirements and surging veterans' benefits, are colliding with massive defense spending to force a dangerous inflationary spiral. He unpacks how "defense stimmies" from nations like Japan and Germany are turning historical creditors into aggressive bond sellers, putting immense pressure on yields. Throughout the conversation, Gromen also issues a stark warning about the AI tech bubble, the incoming policies of new Fed Chair Kevin Warsh, and why China's massive gold accumulation is a major red flag for the US dollar. Read The Forest for the Trees: https://fftt-llc.com Follow Luke Gromen on X: https://x.com/LukeGromen Follow Max on X: https://x.com/maxwiethe Follow Other People’s Money on: Apple Podcast https://bit.ly/4e7QJ1M Spotify https://bit.ly/3Yhaazi YouTube https://bit.ly/3C63VXR X https://x.com/opmpod Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 00:52 Bond Selloff Explained 04:54 Debt Spiral Mechanics 08:22 Global Defense Stimulus 09:58 Real Yields Reality Check 13:20 Fed Chair Fantasy 15:34 Sponsor Break Fundrise 16:57 AI Trade Meets China 20:52 Labor Data Warning 23:02 AI Backstop Coming 26:28 No Long Bond Floor 30:44 Gold Revaluation Debate 35:27 China Gold Buying Surge 36:31 Oil Reserves And Leverage 39:19 Pain Contest with The West 43:22 Inequality and Instability 47:18 Dollar Down Yield Trap 50:03 Buy the Dip 52:12 Gold Targets and Gradualism 54:50 Bitcoin Lags Tech Risk 58:47 Warsh Fed No Good Options 01:02:55 What Breaks First? 01:05:33 Bonds Are the Biggest Bubble
- Jul 22, 20261h 5m
Interest Rates to 10%: Why the Treasury Market is the Real Speculative Bubble (Not AI) | Russell Clark
Learn more about Teucrium’s Soybean ETF (SOYB) here: https://teucrium.com/soyb Free E-book from Teucrium: https://insights.teucrium.com/why-investors-turning-to-commodity-etfs In this episode of Other People's Money, Max Wiethe sits down with hedge fund manager Russell Clark to discuss why he believes the U.S. Treasury market is a much larger and more dangerous speculative bubble than AI. Clark details his macroeconomic outlook, arguing that a shifting political landscape focused on 7% wage growth and lower living costs will eventually push the 10-year Treasury yield up to an astonishing 10%. To stabilize affordability for younger generations, he predicts real estate will remain flat nominally while heavily declining in real terms. Clark also breaks down the massive capital expenditures in AI, viewing them as defensive strategies by legacy tech giants to protect their moats rather than mere speculation. Finally, Clark also warns about sectors reliant on low rates and the severe illiquidity and mispriced risks currently lurking within the private credit and private equity markets. Read Russell’s Substack: https://www.russell-clark.com Follow Russell Clark on X: https://x.com/rampagingruss Follow Max on X: https://x.com/maxwiethe Follow Other People’s Money on: Apple Podcast https://bit.ly/4e7QJ1M Spotify https://bit.ly/3Yhaazi YouTube https://bit.ly/3C63VXR X https://x.com/opmpod SOYB Fund Page & Prospectus: www.teucrium.com/soyb Investing in SOYB involves risk, including the possible loss of principal. Commodity investments are subject to significant volatility. Past performance is not indicative of future results. Investors should carefully consider the investment objectives, risks, charges, and expenses of the Teucrium Soybean Fund before investing. The prospectus contains this and other important information about the Fund. This material must be proceeded or accompanied by the prospectus. The prospectus is available atteucrium.com/soyb. Marketing Agent: PINE Distributors LLC. Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 01:38 Why Treasuries Look Risky 04:33 Foreign Reserves Shift from Gold to Bonds 08:59 Politics Turns Inflationary 14:12 Japan Leads 16:09 Wage Inflation Drives Yields 20:37 Sponsor Break SOYB 21:58 High Real Rates New Normal 26:14 Trading Long View vs Noise 29:09 Housing Tug of War 34:02 Politics Converge Anyway 36:03 Chips Are New Oil 38:38 Is AI a Bubble? 44:12 AI and Wage Politics 50:37 Strategic AI Spending 54:17 Leverage Unwind Risks 59:29 Private Credit Red Flags 01:04:13 Wrap Up and Links
- Jul 16, 20261h 16m
Turbocharged Trend Following: Why Capturing the Market’s Biggest Trends Means Embracing High Volatility | Moritz Seibert & Moritz Heiden | Takahe Capital
Moritz Seibert and Moritz Heiden of Takahe Capital dive deep into the mechanics of high-octane trend-following strategies and unpack why they target 25-30% annualized volatility, bucking the institutional trend of lower volatility to capture massive outlier trades like the recent cocoa and gold runs. They explore the heated debate between dynamic position sizing and classic approaches, revealing why letting winners run is crucial for massive returns. The conversation also touches on the emerging world of perpetual futures on decentralized platforms and why keeping trading models simple often beats complex fundamental analysis. Follow Moritz Seibert on X: https://x.com/moritzseibert Follow Moritz Heiden on X: https://x.com/moritzheiden Follow Takahe Capital on X: https://x.com/TakaheCapital Follow Max on X: https://x.com/maxwiethe Follow Other People’s Money on: Apple Podcast https://bit.ly/4e7QJ1M Spotify https://bit.ly/3Yhaazi YouTube https://bit.ly/3C63VXR X https://x.com/opmpod Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 01:14 Do You Need Big Trends 03:21 Smooth vs Choppy Trends 05:00 Oil Curve Positioning 07:43 Model Design Not Discretion 09:24 Why Trend Funds Differ 16:02 Classic Trend Playbooks 19:04 Sizing Beats Entry 25:01 Perpetual Futures Reality 32:41 High Octane Philosophy 35:22 Letting Winners Get Huge 39:04 Why Trends End Late 41:55 Price Only vs Fundamentals 46:28 What’s Trending Now 49:57 Spreads Underperforming 52:37 When Signals Die 57:49 Simple Robust Parameters 01:00:59 Design Without Optimization 01:05:43 Diversification and Investors 01:09:32 Uniqueness and Market Mix 01:14:21 Who Buys High Vol 01:15:54 Conclusion
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