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- Today50 min
ASST Has More Upside — So Why Buy MSTR?
Could Strive ASST outperform Strategy MSTR, even if it never catches it?Chase Palmieri, COO of Sovana and one of the most vocal Strategy bulls, joins the One Chair Podcast to break down the increasingly fascinating competition between Strategy and Strive, the future of Bitcoin treasury companies, and why he believes MSTR could ultimately become the most valuable company in the world.The paradox? Chase believes ASST could deliver greater upside from here, yet he still sees MSTR as the long-term “gorilla” of the Bitcoin treasury industry.We dig into why.We also take a deep dive into the growing Digital Credit market and the battle between STRC and SATA. Despite Strategy’s enormous Bitcoin holdings and stronger balance sheet, STRC continues to trade below par while SATA has remained around $100.Is the difference really yield and daily dividends, or is it trust?Chase explains why communication, investor confidence, capital-stack management, and Strategy’s USD reserve could matter more than many investors realize. We also discuss what Strategy could learn from Strive, whether STRC should adopt some of SATA’s investor protections, and why competition between the two companies may ultimately benefit both.Then we get into one of Chase’s most interesting trades: buying STRD during the recent dislocation. He explains why he sees it as a kind of “reverse Big Short” trade and why opportunities like it may become increasingly difficult to find.Finally, we discuss Sovana’s approach to unlocking real-estate equity for Bitcoin-related investments, principal-protected exposure to MSTR and ASST, whether Bitcoin has already bottomed, and why BTC rising despite negative macro and regulatory headlines could signal something much bigger.In this episode:→ ASST vs MSTR: which has more upside?→ Why Chase still prefers MSTR at current levels→ Could Strategy become the world’s most valuable company?→ Why Strive may have one of the strongest teams in Bitcoin→ STRC vs SATA and the battle for Digital Credit→ Why SATA is holding par while STRC struggles→ What Strategy could learn from Strive→ Strategy’s USD reserve and the importance of investor trust→ Chase’s “reverse Big Short” STRD trade→ Strive’s accelerating Bitcoin accumulation→ Why Strategy may actually want Strive to succeed→ Principal-protected exposure to MSTR and ASST→ Has Bitcoin already bottomed?→ Why Bitcoin is ignoring bearish macro headlinesFollow our guest:- Chase Palmieri: https://x.com/chasepalmieri- Sovana: https://x.com/SovanaHQ- Sovana: https://www.sovana.io/00:00 Strategy Buys 950 BTC — Without Hitting the Common ATM04:09 Why Is STRC Still Below $100 While SATA Holds Par?06:49 How Much Cash Should Strategy Hold?08:55 STRC vs SATA: Why Trust May Matter More Than Yield11:30 Is Strategy Losing the Communication Battle to Strive?15:10 Should Strategy Copy SATA’s Investor Protections?19:43 MSTR vs ASST: Which Has the Bigger Long-Term Opportunity?21:25 The “Reverse Big Short” Trade on Strategy’s STRD27:20 Strive Buys More Bitcoin Than Strategy29:33 “Strive Has the Best Team in Bitcoin”32:58 Why Strategy Actually Needs Strive to Succeed36:42 Why Bitcoin Treasury Companies Benefit From Competition37:50 Turning Real Estate Equity Into Bitcoin43:06 Bitcoin Is Ignoring the Bearish Headlines48:32 Where the Biggest Opportunities Were During the CrashBig thanks to Little Bubble for allowing us to use his song: "One Chair": https://open.spotify.com/track/0XW7JgR2Nlg7WXGOeVT64h?si=a344b82984f74f81DISCLAIMER: This is not is financial advice. This podcast is for educational and entertainment purposes only.Thank you for listening!Follow us on:- X: https://x.com/OneChairPod- Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@OneChairPod
- 2 weeks ago57 min
Bitcoin to $1 Million? Strive's CEO Says $250K Is Too Bearish
Is $250,000 Bitcoin actually too bearish?Matt Cole, Chairman & CEO of Strive, joins us to explain why he believes Bitcoin could be entering one of the most explosive macro setups in its history, with a path toward $500,000, $1 million and beyond.His thesis starts with a major shift happening beneath the surface: fiscal dominance, rising U.S. debt pressures, weakening control over long-term rates, and the possibility that the Fed or Treasury will ultimately be forced to inject liquidity back into the financial system.If that coincides with a sustained U.S. dollar bear market, Matt believes scarce assets could surge, and Bitcoin could reclaim its position as the market’s “fastest horse.”But Strive isn’t simply betting on higher Bitcoin prices.Matt breaks down how Strive is positioning ASST as an amplified Bitcoin vehicle, why the company could potentially deploy billions more into Bitcoin, and how SATA digital credit, amplification, warrants and its capital structure could accelerate that strategy.We also discuss the extraordinary battle developing between ASST short sellers and warrant holders, why Strive could climb dramatically up the rankings of corporate Bitcoin holders, and what Matt thinks separates Strive’s strategy from larger players such as Strategy.If Matt’s macro thesis is right, the next Bitcoin bull market may look very different from 2024–2025.And $250K might only be the beginning.Follow our Guest:- Matt Cole: https://x.com/ColeMacro- Strive: https://x.com/strive- Strive: https://strive.com/00:00 Why Strive ASST Is Outperforming Bitcoin Treasury Companies04:08 Why Aren’t More Companies Launching Digital Credit?09:03 Could Metaplanet Successfully Launch Digital Credit?10:16 Strive’s Amplification Strategy & Bitcoin Yield18:18 Why This Could Be Bitcoin’s Most Explosive Macro Setup Ever24:46 What Happens When Strive’s ASST Warrants Expire?31:23 Will Strive Buy More STRC?35:10 Strive’s USD Reserve Strategy38:41 Why SATA Has Been More Resilient Than STRC46:26 What Would Matt Cole Do Differently With STRC?51:26 Matt Cole on Executive Compensation & IncentivesBig thanks to Little Bubble for allowing us to use his song: "One Chair": https://open.spotify.com/track/0XW7JgR2Nlg7WXGOeVT64h?si=a344b82984f74f81DISCLAIMER: This is not is financial advice. This podcast is for educational and entertainment purposes only.Thank you for listening!Follow us on:- X: https://x.com/OneChairPod- Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@OneChairPod
- 3 weeks ago58 min
Trillions Are About to Flow Into Bitcoin w/ Sam Callahan
Bitcoin’s next wave of institutional adoption may have barely begun.In this episode of the One Chair Podcast, we sit down with Sam Callahan, Director of Strategy & Research at OranjeBTC, to explore why the intersection of Bitcoin and global capital markets could become one of the biggest forces driving the next phase of adoption.OranjeBTC is building one of Latin America’s most ambitious Bitcoin treasury strategies — accumulating Bitcoin, developing Bitcoin-backed financial products, and creating new bridges between traditional finance and the emerging world of digital credit.We go deep into DIGY11, OranjeBTC’s new Digital Yield ETF designed to bring exposure to instruments like Strategy’s STRC and Strive’s SATA to Brazilian investors. Sam explains why demand for Bitcoin-backed credit could expand far beyond the US, and why we may still be in the very early innings of this market.We also discuss why OranjeBTC bought STRC for its own treasury, whether SATA could be next, why Sam believes these instruments remain mispriced, and what Strategy learned from the recent stress test of STRC.But the bigger thesis goes far beyond Bitcoin treasury companies.Sam argues that institutional Bitcoin adoption has barely scratched the surface. As Bitcoin becomes increasingly integrated into equities, credit markets, ETFs, lending and other financial products, an entirely new pool of global capital could gain exposure to Bitcoin.And with government debt approaching unprecedented levels, structural fiscal deficits continuing to grow, and currency debasement becoming increasingly difficult to avoid, the race to build financial infrastructure around Bitcoin may only be getting started.Is Wall Street about to become the engine of Bitcoin’s next adoption wave?Follow our guest:- Sam Callahan on X: https://x.com/samcallah- OranjeBTC on X: https://x.com/ORANJEBTC- OranjeBTC: https://www.oranjebtc.com/- Bitcoin Brazil Education: https://bitcoin.com.br/00:00 Sam Callahan’s Bitcoin Origin Story05:38 How Sam followed the Strategy Bitcoin Treasury Playbook10:14 Inside OranjeBTC’s Bitcoin Treasury Strategy14:43 DIGY11: Bringing STRC & SATA to Brazil21:19 The Future of Bitcoin-Backed Financial Products23:24 Will OranjeBTC Launch Its Own Digital Credit?26:24 Why OranjeBTC Bought STRC31:29 Could OranjeBTC Buy SATA Next?34:37 STRC vs. SATA: Track Record, Liquidity & Stability41:42 Is MSTR Share Issuance Actually Dilutive?43:45 How Bitcoin Changes the Way You Think46:07 The Next Massive Wave of Bitcoin Adoption52:21 Why Bitcoin’s Recent Move Could Be Just the Beginning56:58 Where to Follow Sam Callahan & OranjeBTCBig thanks to Little Bubble for allowing us to use his song: "One Chair": https://open.spotify.com/track/0XW7JgR2Nlg7WXGOeVT64h?si=a344b82984f74f81DISCLAIMER: This is not is financial advice. This podcast is for educational and entertainment purposes only.Thank you for listening!Follow us on:- X: https://x.com/OneChairPod- Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@OneChairPodReferral links:- Roxom: https://roxom.com/auth/signup?referral=a7m4wx
- 4 weeks ago20 min
MSTR Just Hit Zero Net Debt—Now the Real Bitcoin Trade Begins
🚨 Bitcoin just surged 22% in a single week, and the Bitcoin treasury flywheels are starting to turn again.In this episode of the One Chair Podcast, we break down one of the most important weeks yet for Strategy (MSTR), Strive (ASST), STRC, SATA and the broader Bitcoin treasury market.Strategy raised another $2 billion through its common stock ATM, increased its USD reserve to $5.1 billion, created a separate $1.59 billion cash reserve, and repurchased $136 million of STRC.With more than $6.7 billion in cash, Strategy has effectively reached a major milestone: near-zero net debt when comparing its cash position against its convertible debt.But there’s a question investors can’t ignore:Why did MSTR barely outperform Bitcoin while companies like Strive and Metaplanet exploded higher?We discuss whether Strategy’s aggressive common stock ATM is suppressing MSTR, why STRC remains below par despite massive de-risking, and whether Strategy needs to finish cleaning up its balance sheet before the next major repricing can begin.Then we turn to Strive (ASST), which ripped nearly 50% in a single week.Strive raised capital through both SATA and its common ATM, acquired another 1,110 BTC, increased its Bitcoin holdings by more than 5% in one week, and continued building its USD reserve.After months of disciplined execution, we may finally be seeing what the Strive flywheel looks like when Bitcoin enters a bull market.And that brings us to the biggest question of the episode:🔥 Was Bitcoin’s 22% move the beginning of a new bull market?After weeks of low volatility and sideways price action, Bitcoin suddenly exploded higher, liquidating shorts, attracting attention back from AI stocks, and potentially restarting the reflexive flywheels of Bitcoin treasury companies.We break down:- Bitcoin’s massive 22% weekly move- Why the Bitcoin bull market may be entering its early innings- Strategy’s $6.7B+ cash position- The new Strategy USD cash reserve- Strategy’s near-zero net debt milestone- Why MSTR may continue lagging ASST and Metaplanet- Why STRC is still struggling to return to par- Strive ASST’s nearly 50% weekly rally- Strive’s latest 1,110 BTC acquisition- The return of the Bitcoin treasury flywheel- Why Bitcoin treasury equities could violently reprice in a bull marketThe flywheels are turning again. The question now is how fast they can spin.00:00 Strategy $MSTR Raises Another $2 BILLION06:59 Why MSTR Could Keep Lagging ASST & Metaplanet12:40 Strive ASST Explodes Nearly 50% in ONE WEEK15:03 Why the Bitcoin Bull Case Is Getting StrongerMentions:- Anthony Pompliano Podcast: https://youtu.be/fhZiG-Uzs1cBig thanks to Little Bubble for allowing us to use his song: "One Chair": https://open.spotify.com/track/0XW7JgR2Nlg7WXGOeVT64h?si=a344b82984f74f81DISCLAIMER: This is not is financial advice. This podcast is for educational and entertainment purposes only.Thank you for listening!Follow us on:- X: https://x.com/OneChairPod- Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@OneChairPodReferral links:- Roxom: https://roxom.com/auth/signup?referral=a7m4wx
- Aug 18, 202620 min
MSTR Is Setting Up for Its Most Powerful Bitcoin Cycle Yet
Strategy is raising capital again. But the bigger question is: what exactly is Michael Saylor building toward?This week, we break down the latest moves from Strategy MSTR, including its growing $4.8 billion USD reserve, continued STRC buybacks, and a fascinating possibility: could Strategy be positioning itself toward zero net debt in USD terms?But is building the cash reserve this aggressively in the middle of a Bitcoin bear market actually the right move?We also dive into one of the most interesting trades developing across the Bitcoin treasury sector: Strive ASST now has nearly 30% short interest. With SATA trading close to par, Strive continuing to accumulate Bitcoin, and a potential Bitcoin recovery ahead, could shorts be setting themselves up for serious trouble?In this episode:→ Strategy grows its USD reserve to ~$4.8B→ Could ~$7B put Strategy near zero net debt?→ Why raising cash during a bear market may be suboptimal→ How Strategy could prepare for the next Bitcoin cycle→ Michael Saylor's comments on keeping STRC around $100→ STRC vs SATA and two different preferred-stock strategies→ Why Strive's disciplined USD reserve strategy matters→ Nearly 30% short interest in Strive ASST→ What could happen to shorts if Bitcoin starts moving higher→ Why SATA trading near par without buybacks is significant→ The latest MSCI pressure on Bitcoin treasury companies→ And why Bitcoin's resilience could be setting up an interesting end to 2026The Bitcoin treasury market is evolving fast.Strategy is increasingly managing not just its Bitcoin holdings, but an entire capital structure built around common equity, preferred stock, cash reserves and Bitcoin.Meanwhile, Strive is emerging as one of the most interesting Bitcoin treasury companies to watch.And with shorts increasingly positioned against the sector while Bitcoin remains remarkably resilient...the next move could get very interesting.00:00 Strategy Is Raising Cash Again: What’s the Plan?05:13 Should Michael Saylor Stop Raising Capital?08:18 How Strategy Should Prepare for the Next Bitcoin Bear Market10:50 STRC vs SATA: Should Preferred Stock Be Allowed to Run?13:40 Nearly 30% Short Interest: The Massive Bet Against Strive ASST18:00 MSCI vs Bitcoin Treasury Companies: Does It Actually Matter?Big thanks to Little Bubble for allowing us to use his song: "One Chair": https://open.spotify.com/track/0XW7JgR2Nlg7WXGOeVT64h?si=a344b82984f74f81DISCLAIMER: This is not is financial advice. This podcast is for educational and entertainment purposes only.Thank you for listening!Follow us on:- X: https://x.com/OneChairPod- Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@OneChairPodReferral links:- Roxom: https://roxom.com/auth/signup?referral=a7m4wx
- Aug 13, 20261h 16m
MSTR Could 10x in the Next Bitcoin Bull Run
Robin Seyr believes Strategy (MSTR) could be one of the most misunderstood investment opportunities in the market — and eventually become the most valuable company in the world.In this episode, we break down the bull case for MSTR, why Strategy is selling Bitcoin, the future of STRC, its $4.65B USD reserve, and why Robin believes MSTR could dramatically outperform Bitcoin in the next bull market.Robin Seyr joins us for a deep dive into Michael Saylor’s evolving Strategy playbook and the future of Bitcoin treasury companies.We discuss:- Why Robin believes MSTR is massively misunderstood- Why Strategy is selling Bitcoin to buy back STRC- Whether STRC could soon return to par- Why Strategy could have a record Bitcoin accumulation year- The historical relationship between Bitcoin and MSTR outperformance- Bitcoin vs. MSTR: which has more upside?- Why Strategy is building a $4.65B USD reserve- How large that USD reserve could ultimately become- Strategy vs. Strive (ASST), Metaplanet and other Bitcoin treasury companies- The biggest risks facing Strategy investors- Custody risk and the Bitcoin treasury "black box"- The Coldcard incident and the future of Bitcoin self-custody- Whether Bitcoin rehypothecation is a legitimate risk- Why Robin thinks Strategy could become the world's most valuable company- The long-term 200–300x Strategy thesisRobin also explains why he views Strategy as an "amplified Bitcoin" investment.His thesis is simple: if Bitcoin eventually becomes the most valuable asset in the world, what happens to the company that owns more Bitcoin than any other public company?And with MSTR deeply depressed while Strategy continues evolving its Bitcoin-backed capital structure, could the market be dramatically underestimating what Michael Saylor is building?We get into all of it.Follow our guest:- Robin Seyr on X: https://x.com/RobinSeyr- Robin Seyr Podcast on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@RobinSeyr- Robin Seyr Clips on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@RobinSeyrClips- Robin Seyr Website: https://www.robinseyr.com/- Microseed Website: https://microseed.io/00:00 From Tesla to Bitcoin — Robin’s Investment Journey07:31 Why Robin Is So Bullish on Strategy (MSTR)14:36 Could 2026 Be Strategy’s Best Bitcoin Accumulation Year Ever?21:24 Why $STRC Will Return to $10025:30 Why Is $MSTR So Cheap Right Now?34:01 Strategy’s $4.65B Cash Reserve — Is It Too Big?39:50 Would Robin Buy Strategy Preferred Stock?44:49 Strategy vs. Strive, Metaplanet & Other Bitcoin Treasuries53:27 The Coldcard Incident Changed Bitcoin Self-Custody59:09 The Biggest Risks When Investing in Strategy (MSTR)01:04:33 Is Bitcoin Rehypothecation a Real Risk for Strategy?01:12:08 The 200–300x Long-Term Strategy Thesis01:14:40 Robin’s Most Important Advice for Bitcoin Investors01:15:59 Where to Follow Robin SeyrBig thanks to Little Bubble for allowing us to use his song: "One Chair": https://open.spotify.com/track/0XW7JgR2Nlg7WXGOeVT64h?si=a344b82984f74f81DISCLAIMER: This is not is financial advice. This podcast is for educational and entertainment purposes only.Thank you for listening!Follow us on:- X: https://x.com/OneChairPod- Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@OneChairPodReferral links:- Roxom: https://roxom.com/auth/signup?referral=a7m4wx
- Aug 10, 202622 min
Did Strive Just Force MSTR to Change Strategy?
Strategy is selling Bitcoin again, but the bigger story may be WHY.This week, Strategy sold $108 million of Bitcoin and used the proceeds to buy back STRC, while raising another $650 million through the MSTR ATM and pushing its USD reserve to $4.65 billion.Is Strategy simply strengthening its balance sheet, or could Michael Saylor be preparing for something much bigger?We explore a potential zero net debt strategy, whether MSTR dilution is starting to go too far, why Strategy continues selling Bitcoin, and why the market barely seems to care anymore.Meanwhile, a major shift is happening in Europe.H100 has completed its acquisition and jumped from 1,051 BTC to 3,506 BTC, becoming the largest European public Bitcoin treasury company. Could the next step be a Bitcoin-backed preferred — potentially denominated in Swiss francs?We also look at why a CHF-denominated Bitcoin credit instrument could have very different dynamics from $STRC or $SATA, and why Europe's fragmented capital markets may actually create a unique opportunity for Bitcoin treasury companies.Finally, we break down Strive's latest results, its disciplined 18-month USD reserve strategy, and why SATA continues to trade remarkably well.In this episode:• Strategy sells Bitcoin to buy back STRC• MSTR raises another $650M• Strategy's USD reserve reaches $4.65B• Is Strategy targeting zero net debt?• Is MSTR dilution becoming excessive?• Why Bitcoin isn't reacting to Strategy's BTC sales• H100 becomes Europe's largest Bitcoin treasury company• The potential for a Swiss franc Bitcoin preferred• Europe's emerging Bitcoin credit market• Strive adds more Bitcoin• Why SATA continues to perform• Strategy vs. Strive's approach to USD reservesIf you follow Strategy (MSTR), Bitcoin treasury companies, STRC, SATA, H100, Strive, or the emerging Bitcoin capital markets, this episode is for you.00:00 Why Strategy Sold Bitcoin to Buy STRC03:34 Is Strategy Targeting ZERO Net Debt?10:13 Bitcoin Doesn’t Care About Strategy Selling13:10 H100 Just Became Europe’s #1 Bitcoin Treasury14:44 Europe’s Bitcoin Credit Opportunity19:12 Why $SATA Is Outperforming Strategy’s PreferredsBig thanks to Little Bubble for allowing us to use his song: "One Chair": https://open.spotify.com/track/0XW7JgR2Nlg7WXGOeVT64h?si=a344b82984f74f81DISCLAIMER: This is not is financial advice. This podcast is for educational and entertainment purposes only.Thank you for listening!Follow us on:- X: https://x.com/OneChairPod- Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@OneChairPodReferral links:- Roxom: https://roxom.com/auth/signup?referral=a7m4wx
- Aug 3, 202615 min
Why Is MSTR Building a $4 Billion Cash Pile?
This week, we break down why Strategy:- Issued $290 million of MSTR common stock- Sold over $100 million worth of Bitcoin- Increased its USD reserve to $4 billion- Bought back $81 million of STRC- Continues executing its long-term capital allocation strategyWe discuss what these moves mean for:- MSTR shareholders- STRC investors- Strategy's balance sheet- Bitcoin per share- The path toward a stronger capital structureWe also cover the Coldcard security incident and why it serves as an important reminder that custody risk never disappears—whether you're using self-custody, ETFs, exchanges, or Bitcoin treasury companies.In this episode:⏱️ Why Strategy keeps increasing its cash reserve⏱️ Is STRC finally returning to par?⏱️ The tradeoff between cash reserves and Bitcoin per share⏱️ Could Strategy start retiring its convertible debt?⏱️ What the Coldcard incident teaches us about Bitcoin custody⏱️ Why custody risk matters for every Bitcoin investor00:00 Strategy SHOCKS the Market Again03:25 Is STRC Finally Recovering?05:17 The Next Big Move: Cleaning Up the Balance Sheet07:50 The Hidden Cost of Strategy's Plan09:30 Why This Could Pay Off Long-Term10:36 The Biggest Lesson About Bitcoin CustodyBig thanks to Little Bubble for allowing us to use his song: "One Chair": https://open.spotify.com/track/0XW7JgR2Nlg7WXGOeVT64h?si=a344b82984f74f81DISCLAIMER: This is not is financial advice. This podcast is for educational and entertainment purposes only.Thank you for listening!Follow us on:- X: https://x.com/OneChairPod- Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@OneChairPodReferral links:- Roxom: https://roxom.com/auth/signup?referral=a7m4wx
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