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In the Go To Master Show podcast, we host industry leaders/experts to discuss the best practices and nuances in RevOps and GTM functions.
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Daniel Wolman is Head of Incentive Compensation at Dext, the bookkeeping automation platform, where he runs comp solo across multiple regions after 15 years in ops and RevOps. In this episode, he makes the case that RevOps should own comp because they're the only function that designs for behavior rather than cost control or fairness. He walks through how Dext restructured their account management plans from a single net revenue metric to split growth and retention targets, how to spot when reps are sandbagging deals because the plan is broken, and why CSM comp is so hard to get right when the role doesn't hold a revenue number. He also covers performance management, the shelf life of salespeople, and how to run a global comp function as a one-person team.
Ajay Erogbogbo is VP and Head of Revenue Operations and Strategic Initiatives at Pathward, a publicly listed financial holding company, where he designs incentive comp for commercial lending officers. In this episode, he breaks down how variable comp works when it's tied to loan origination volume with two-year clawback windows, why standardizing comp across product lines creates distortion when the risk profiles are different, and how he distinguishes between a performance issue and a design issue during monthly reviews. He also covers why the biggest structural comp mistake is designing for what's easy to measure rather than what creates value, and how giving BDOs a simulator to model their earnings changes the entire plan rollout conversation.
Ariana Farray manages 300+ payees across 40-50 comp plans at Flock Safety, one of the fastest-growing public safety companies in the US ($200M to $300M ARR in a single year, valued at $7.5B). In this episode, she walks through her full comp cycle from design through communication to measurement and course correction. She shares why pay versus performance is the report most comp teams skip, how a post-acquisition quota miscalculation led to sellers hitting their quarterly number in January, and why SPIFs should course correct behavior but never replace the plan. Plus her take on AI in comp: "It never tells anybody they have a bad idea.
Kris Rudeegraap co-founded Sendoso after a decade in software sales, when he watched email go from effective to noise and started looking for a better way to build relationships with prospects. Today Sendoso is the leading direct mail and gifting automation platform, and Kris has spent years watching what separates high-performing outbound teams from everyone else. On this episode of GoToMasters, he and host Mike Groeneveld get into the "Mad Libs problem" — why 75% of teams are still running templated sequences that look identical — and what the top 10% are doing with AI and multi-channel to fix it. They also cover how the BDR role is splitting into two distinct profiles in 2026, what it takes for AEs to win longer enterprise sales cycles, and why personalization is what determines whether a direct mail gift lands or backfires.
Sam Wegman is VP of CX and Commercial Operations at Univar Solutions, one of the world's largest chemical and ingredient distributors, and has spent over 30 years in the industry. On this episode of GoToMasters, Sam and host Venkat Sabesan get into what makes comp design different in a commodity-driven, high-velocity B2B environment, including a case study on what happens when you pay only for the products you want to grow. They cover why Univar has always paid on gross margin rather than revenue, how they built a "trust and verify" system for fast-moving product lines, and why most comp inaccuracy problems trace back to master data, not the tool. If you run commercial or sales operations in distribution or manufacturing, this episode covers terrain that most software-focused comp conversations skip entirely.
Most experienced recruiters will tell you the same thing quietly: when a candidate names compensation as their only reason for moving, it's a red flag, not a green light. Shawn Santos has spent almost 28 years placing CFOs, controllers, and VPs across accounting and finance, and the patterns are hard to argue with.Shawn is VP of Accounting and Finance Search at Stephen Douglas, where he's building out the New York and New Jersey market. He joins this episode of GoToMasters Finance Fireside for a conversation about what really moves senior finance leaders into new roles.He gets into where compensation actually sits in a job search (his framing: it's the ante in a card game), why the loudest, most extroverted recruiters tend to burn out at year three, and what separates the ones who stay 15 and 20 years. He's equally direct on tools — Bullhorn as the system of record, LinkedIn Recruiter and ZoomInfo as the discovery layer, MetaView as the AI note-taker that lets him stop transcribing and start listening — and on why bolting salespeople onto an existing CRM is one of the quietest ways to lose data integrity.He closes on the line that has guided his career: the next phone call you make can be the best phone call you make.If you're hiring senior finance talent, advising candidates through career moves, or trying to build a recruiting practice that survives past year three, this one's worth your time.
Colin Brown is VP of Revenue Operations at DDN, a company that powers AI infrastructure at scale for clients like XAI's Colossus data center. He came to RevOps from the front lines, having carried a sales quota, run marketing teams, and led post-sales. In this episode, he breaks down why most teams are sprinkling AI into existing processes for 15-minute wins instead of re-engineering those processes to get 1-3 days back per week. He also has a sharp take on the strategic RevOps seat: it's earned, not a right, and having access to a wide view doesn't mean you automatically get invited to the strategy room. Plus: why product roadmap changes are about to become the biggest comp planning blind spot, and why RevOps professionals need a clear value proposition instead of trying to do a little bit of everything.
Scott Johnson is Head of Revenue Operations at Zeitview, a visual AI company serving renewable energy and infrastructure operators at scale. He started his career carrying a bag at Black and Decker, and his CRO once introduced him to a sales team as "a guy that's carried a bag." In this episode, he breaks down why he builds individualized pipeline targets at the rep level instead of applying a blanket 3X coverage ratio, why he hires great people to extract their ideas into the process rather than to depend on them, and how he got to 95% forecast accuracy by combining transactional run-rate data with new business pipeline in Salesforce.
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