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Ever realize your ‘normal’ isn’t everyone else’s normal?After being diagnosed with ADHD in college, Pip Scott-Allen later discovered he was autistic too. Looking back, a lot of the things he thought were “just quirks” suddenly started making sense, from only drinking out of red cups to avoiding certain clothing textures and carefully balancing food while eating. In this episode, Pip shares what it’s like unpacking a late autism diagnosis after years of masking through leadership and team-building work, and how understanding his sensory needs and communication style has changed the way he approaches work, relationships, and self-acceptance.Guest BioPip Scott-Allen is a leadership facilitator, speaker, and founder of Premier Team Building Australia. With a background in outdoor education, tourism, and leadership development, Pip helps organizations improve communication, culture, and collaboration through hands-on workshops and team experiences.Episode Highlights00:04:08 — Realizing his “quirks” were sensory needsPip shares the everyday habits his wife noticed long before his autism diagnosis, from refusing to wear full-length pants to carefully balancing food while eating. What he assumed was just personality or preference turned out to be sensory and autistic traits.00:06:30 — The red cup rule and other “normal” behaviorsFor years, Pip would only drink from red cups and use certain cutlery because other options felt wrong in his hands. The conversation explores how many autistic people assume their internal rules are universal until someone points out otherwise.00:09:20 — Understanding why masking became exhaustingBefore diagnosis, Pip assumed constant exhaustion was just part of life. Looking back, he realized how much energy went into forcing himself through uncomfortable sensory and social situations every day.00:17:11 — Becoming more honest about sensory triggersAfter his diagnosis, Pip stopped forcing himself to tolerate foods and situations that made him deeply uncomfortable. Being more open about textures, safe foods, and sensory needs gave him more energy and reduced self-judgment.00:27:00 — Why autistic communication is often misunderstoodPip explains how many neurodivergent people communicate through direct curiosity, while neurotypical people often interpret hidden meanings or emotional undertones. A simple question like “Why are you tying your shoes like that?” can unintentionally sound critical even when it’s genuine curiosity.00:34:08 — Advice for leaders supporting neurodivergent teamsPip encourages leaders to listen carefully to what people actually say rather than assuming intent. He also explains why flexibility, clear communication, and understanding sensory needs help neurodivergent employees perform at their best.Connect with Pip:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/pip-scott-allen-facilitator-of-awesome-8458a069/Email: pip@premierteambuilding.com.auWebsite: https://premierteambuilding.com.au/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/PremierTeamBuildingAus/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/premier_team_building/Connect with Jeremy:LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/nageljeremyEmail: jeremy@focusbear.ioMore from Focus Bear:Website: https://focusbear.ioLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/focus-bear/Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@focusbearappTwitter: https://twitter.com/focusbear1Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/focus_bear/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/focusbearapp/Podcast: https://podcast.focusbear.ioTiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@focusbear
“It’s like being a car on a side street trying to enter a highway… and you just can’t get in.”Elaine Lee shares what it’s like struggling to enter conversations, missing social cues, and feeling out of sync in both work and relationships. After being diagnosed with ADHD, autism, and dyslexia later in life, she began to understand why communication had always felt so difficult.In this episode, we explore misreading emotions, defaulting to problem-solving instead of connection, and how misunderstanding intent can damage relationships. Elaine also shares how she’s building Evro, a tool designed to help people better understand communication patterns.If you’ve ever felt like you couldn’t “read the room” or struggled to jump into conversations, this episode will feel very familiar.Elaine Lee is a product strategist and CEO of Evro, a communication-focused AI tool designed to help people better understand conversations and social dynamics. She has over 15 years of experience across fintech, health tech, and AI platforms.Episode Highlights00:05:00 — Struggling to read social cues at workElaine explains how not being able to detect boredom, disengagement, or passive-aggressive behavior made navigating meetings difficult. This impacted her effectiveness as a leader and made sensitive situations harder to manage.00:06:30 — Why joining conversations feels impossibleShe describes group conversations as trying to merge onto a busy highway without a gap. By the time she finds space to speak, the topic has already moved on, leading to frustration in both social and professional settings.00:08:30 — Missing emotional cues in real timeIn a tense meeting, a colleague became visibly upset and raised their voice, but Elaine didn’t recognize it in the moment. She continued trying to solve the problem logically, only realizing later what had happened.00:13:00 — Reframing relationships after diagnosisAfter her diagnosis, Elaine began to understand that communication struggles weren’t due to lack of care or effort. This helped her and her partner meet in the middle and reduce long-standing misunderstandings.00:15:30 — Reinterpreting her childhood with compassionLooking back at her mother’s behavior through an autism lens shifted her perspective. What once felt like absence or lack of love became something she could understand with more empathy.00:22:00 — Building Evro to bridge communication gapsElaine explains how Evro analyzes conversations to highlight patterns people might miss. The goal is to reduce misinterpretation and help people communicate more effectively across different styles.Connect with Elaine:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/elaine-lee-a0716918/Website: https://www.evro.ai/Connect with Jeremy:LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/nageljeremyEmail: jeremy@focusbear.ioMore from Focus Bear:Website: https://focusbear.ioLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/focus-bear/Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@focusbearappTwitter: https://twitter.com/focusbear1Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/focus_bear/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/focusbearapp/Podcast: https://podcast.focusbear.io
“I’ve only ever worked full-time for two years… and by the end of it, I was an absolute zombie and I couldn’t function.”Caitlin Hughes spent years trying to meet traditional expectations around work and productivity. But pushing herself into full-time work led to burnout, exhaustion, and losing the ability to function. In this episode, she shares how discovering her autism, ADHD, and giftedness changed the way she approaches work, energy, and self-expectations.From late diagnosis and grief to redefining consistency, building a part-time work model, and designing work around her brain, this conversation explores what sustainable productivity actually looks like for neurodivergent people.Caitlin Hughes is a multi-exceptional autistic, ADHD, and gifted accredited mental health social worker, founder of Cathartic Collaborations, and a PhD candidate at Queensland University of Technology. Her work focuses on autistic mental health and neuro-affirming practice, combining lived experience, clinical work, and research to support neurodivergent individuals.Episode Highlights00:02:00 — Discovering neurodivergence through client workCaitlin shares how working closely with autistic and ADHD clients led her to recognize similar patterns in herself. A training video became a turning point, helping her connect her childhood experiences to autism for the first time.00:04:00 — The grief and self-compassion after late diagnosisReceiving a diagnosis in her thirties brought both clarity and grief. Understanding her neurodivergence helped her replace self-judgment with compassion and reframe past struggles.00:08:30 — Realizing she could only sustain part-time workAfter pushing through full-time work and burning out, Caitlin recognized her limits. Accepting a reduced work capacity allowed her to show up more consistently and sustainably.00:10:00 — Managing energy instead of just managing timeShe explains how productivity is not just about hours worked but the type of work and level of social interaction involved. Balancing client work with deep, independent research helps her regulate energy.00:16:00 — Redefining consistency in a neurodivergent wayInstead of rigid routines, Caitlin defines consistency as checking in with her capacity each day. This flexible approach prevents burnout and supports long-term progress.00:33:30 — Designing work around your brain, not the other way aroundShe emphasizes the importance of building work structures that align with individual needs rather than forcing yourself into traditional systems. For her, sustainability is more important than productivity metrics.Connect with Caitlin: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/caitlinhughes299/Website: https://www.catharticcollaborations.com.au/Podcast: https://www.catharticcollaborations.com.au/podcastConnect with Jeremy:LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/nageljeremyEmail: jeremy@focusbear.ioMore from Focus Bear:Website: https://focusbear.ioLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/focus-bear/Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@focusbearappTwitter: https://twitter.com/focusbear1Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/focus_bear/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/focusbearapp/Podcast: https://podcast.focusbear.ioTiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@focusbear
“I think I’ve always felt a bit like an alien… even in preschool I remember watching other kids like curious creatures.”Avalon McWha spent much of her childhood feeling different without knowing why. Behaviours like stimming or walking on tiptoes were explained away as “just a ballet moment,” and it wasn’t until later in life that she discovered she was autistic and ADHD.If you’ve ever felt like an outsider growing up, struggled with masking, or are navigating a late autism or ADHD diagnosis, this conversation explores what changes once you finally understand your brain. Avalon McWha is an ADHD advocate, autism consultant at the Royal Melbourne Hospital, and founder of Pebbl Tech. She works to improve autism diagnosis services and create more sensory-friendly environments in healthcare. Avalon is also developing Pebbl, a wearable assistive device designed to support executive functioning through simple voice reminders.Episode Highlights00:01:48 — Feeling like an alien in early childhood Avalon recalls observing other children even in preschool and feeling like she was fundamentally different. Without understanding why, she experienced social interactions almost like watching a different species operate.00:03:35 — When autism traits were mistaken for something else Growing up doing ballet meant that behaviours like stimming or walking on tiptoes were interpreted as dance habits rather than autistic traits. These misinterpretations helped hide the signs of autism for years.00:09:30 — Burnout from masking in the workplace While early design roles allowed her to work independently, startup environments demanded constant meetings and social interaction. The cognitive load of masking eventually led to severe burnout and moments of going nearly nonverbal.00:12:53 — Processing a late autism diagnosis After receiving her diagnosis, Avalon went through a long period of reinterpreting past experiences and confronting internalized ableism. Realizing autism wasn’t inherently negative helped reshape her understanding of herself.00:18:09 — Advocating for better autism diagnosis systems In her role at Royal Melbourne Hospital, Avalon works alongside clinicians to ensure autistic perspectives are included in the diagnostic process. Her focus is helping professionals remember that behind every diagnostic score is a real person.00:20:23 — Building Pebbl to reduce cognitive load Avalon explains how her own struggles with executive functioning led her to develop Pebbl, a wearable device designed to simplify reminders without adding more mental effort or screen time.Connect with Avalon:LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/avalon-mcwha-2a3876baWebsite: https://pebbl.tech/Connect with Jeremy:LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/nageljeremyEmail: jeremy@focusbear.ioMore from Focus Bear:Website: https://focusbear.ioLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/focus-bear/Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@focusbearappTwitter: https://twitter.com/focusbear1Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/focus_bear/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/focusbearapp/Podcast: https://podcast.focusbear.ioTiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@focusbear
“My work’s my special interest… it’s just the way it works.”In this follow-up conversation, Gold returns to talk about autistic routines, sensory-friendly travel, evolving productivity habits, and what changes as you get older and learn to pace yourself.From choosing quieter hotels to letting go of perfectionism and learning to say no, this episode explores the small, practical adjustments that can make work and life more sustainable for autistic adults.If you’ve ever struggled with sensory overload while traveling, found it hard to switch off from work, or are learning to balance productivity with self-acceptance, this conversation offers grounded, real-world insights.Kyriakos Gold is the founder of Just Gold Agency and a passionate advocate for neurodivergent inclusion. Through storytelling, community impact initiatives and social entrepreneurship, he helps create workplaces and environments where autistic and otherwise neurodivergent people don’t need to mask to belong. Kyriakos is also a leader in Autistic Pride Day and has driven multiple projects empowering neurodivergent voices globally.Episode Highlights00:01:05 — When your work becomes your special interest Gold shares how his work naturally became his primary special interest. Rather than forcing separation, he has learned to work with this tendency while still building in breaks and enjoyable rituals like food and travel.00:03:35 — What makes a hotel sensory-friendly He explains that “sensory friendly” often comes down to lighting, acoustics, materials, and spatial design. Small environmental details like noise bleed and harsh lighting can dramatically affect comfort.00:17:00 — Letting go of all-or-nothing productivity Earlier in his career, he would work extreme hours to complete every task before resting. Over time, he shifted toward weekly planning and allowing unfinished work without self-punishment.00:20:30 — Learning to say no and trust body signals Gold describes becoming more selective about commitments and listening to physical fatigue cues. This shift has made work and life significantly more sustainable.00:22:00 — Navigating social situations without drinking He shares practical scripts for declining loud pub environments and suggesting quieter alternatives. Framing the request around environment rather than diagnosis often works well.00:26:09 — Trying new things without forcing yourself to keep them In his closing reflection, Gold encourages experimenting with new strategies slowly and safely. The goal is not to copy what others do, but to build a life that genuinely fits.Connect with Kyriakos Gold:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kyriakosgold/Website: https://justgold.net/Connect with Jeremy:LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/nageljeremyEmail: jeremy@focusbear.ioMore from Focus Bear:Website: https://focusbear.ioLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/focus-bear/Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@focusbearappTwitter: https://twitter.com/focusbear1Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/focus_bear/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/focusbearapp/Podcast: https://podcast.focusbear.ioTiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@focusbear
“I always felt a bit like an alien… I was different to everyone else and wasn’t really sure why.”Before her ADHD and autism diagnoses, Hannah Baden Hop kept hearing the same advice: just focus. But in the classroom, that instruction never made sense. In this episode, she shares what school was really like as a neurodivergent student, how understanding her brain changed her confidence, and why visual learning and interest-driven focus made such a difference.If you’ve ever struggled to pay attention in traditional classrooms, felt “different” growing up, or are supporting neurodivergent learners, this conversation explores what actually helps and why one-size-fits-all learning often misses visual thinkers.Hannah Badenhop has worked across multiple roles at Autism South Australia, where she champions neuro-inclusive practice through community engagement and resource development. As a neurodivergent professional herself, she contributes to initiatives such as Neuro Inclusive Recruiting and the Autistic Guide to Adulthood, helping ensure autistic voices shape the supports designed for them.00:02:46 — Feeling like an outsider in class Hannah describes growing up feeling “like an alien” compared to her peers. Without understanding why she struggled socially and academically, the disconnect was both confusing and isolating. 00:02:55 — When “just focus” didn’t make sense Teachers often told her to simply pay attention, but she couldn’t understand why focusing felt so difficult. The advice created pressure without addressing how her brain actually worked. 00:04:30 — Grades changed when she followed her interests Earlier schooling was difficult when subjects didn’t engage her attention. But once she could hyperfocus on business and graphic design, she achieved top marks, showing how interest-driven focus shaped her learning. 00:07:06 — Why visual learning works better Hannah explains that diagrams, visuals, and varied communication styles help her stay engaged. Lecture-only teaching made it much harder to absorb information effectively. 00:15:16 — Using hyperfocus strategically at work She now watches for moments when her brain “locks in” and uses them to complete high-impact work quickly. Building momentum with quick wins helps on lower-energy days. 00:28:40 — Self-acceptance is a journey Hannah reflects on initially feeling hesitant to disclose her neurodivergence. Over time, connecting with other autistic people helped her grow more confident and accepting of how her brain works. Connect with Hannah:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/creativemarketingdesigner/Connect with Jeremy:LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/nageljeremyEmail: jeremy@focusbear.ioMore from Focus Bear:Website: https://focusbear.ioLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/focus-bear/Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@focusbearappTwitter: https://twitter.com/focusbear1Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/focus_bear/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/focusbearapp/Podcast: https://podcast.focusbear.ioTiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@focusbear
“…you internalized that you’re doing something wrong because you don’t feel or act the way other people do.”In this candid conversation, Reuben Schwartz shares what autistic burnout actually felt like behind the scenes, from years of sleep deprivation as a parent to the quiet habit of constantly judging himself for being different.If you’ve ever felt pressure to be “normal,” struggled with burnout, or wrestled with the realities of autistic parenting, this episode explores what changes after diagnosis, why pacing matters more than pushing through, and how self-understanding can reduce the constant inner pressure.Ruben is a startup consultant based in Sydney. He’s on his 13th different career, currently writing Choose Your Own Adventure books for startup founders, while wearing many other hats. After 45 often confusing years, including the last five raising a young child, he was diagnosed as autistic last year and is still working through what that means.Episode Highlights00:01:22 — Four years of severe sleep deprivation Reuben describes how his daughter’s sleep issues led to years of chronic exhaustion while he was still working full time. The prolonged sleep deprivation began affecting his health, decision-making, and overall functioning.00:09:13 — When parenting exhaustion becomes physical He shares how extreme fatigue pushed his body to its limits, including hallucinations and loss of control. The experience reshaped his understanding of what true exhaustion can do to a person.00:29:14 — Stopping the self-judgment spiral After his autism diagnosis, Reuben began recognizing how often he had been harshly judging himself for his natural responses and needs. Accepting how his brain works helped him stop trying to “correct” himself constantly.00:45:00 — Trying to be “normal” for years He reflects on how many life choices in his twenties were driven by copying what others were doing. Only later did he realize he had been chasing normality rather than what he actually wanted. 00:46:23 — Pacing energy to be a better parent Understanding autistic burnout helped him recognize his limits around sensory and emotional load. By pacing his time more intentionally, he can now show up more patiently with his daughter. 00:47:00 — Learning to be less hard on himself Reuben explains how diagnosis helped him reframe his constant self-criticism. Instead of viewing his needs as moral failures, he now sees them as physical and neurological realities. Subscribe for more honest conversations about autism, ADHD, burnout, and neurodivergent life.Connect with Reuben Schwartz:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/reubenschwarz/Connect with Jeremy:LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/nageljeremyEmail: jeremy@focusbear.ioMore from Focus Bear:Website: https://focusbear.ioLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/focus-bear/Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@focusbearappTwitter: https://twitter.com/focusbear1Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/focus_bear/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/focusbearapp/Podcast: https://podcast.focusbear.ioTiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@focusbear
“I used to really get annoyed with myself for not being able to just be up and ready and start the day. Now I know my brain works differently, and I’ve stopped punishing myself for it.”In this episode, Tania Gerard shares how ADHD self-awareness changed the way she treats herself, works, and lives. She talks openly about slower mornings, letting go of “normal,” hyperfocus, burnout, and the relief that comes from finally understanding how your brain actually works.If you’ve struggled with ADHD, late diagnosis, self-judgment, burnout, or feeling like you’re constantly failing invisible expectations, this conversation explores what shifts when awareness turns into self-acceptance, and why working with your brain matters more than fixing it.Tania Gerard is an Accessible Marketing Consultant, Keynote Speaker and Founder of Tania Gerard Digital UK, one of the UK’s first consultancies focused on accessible marketing and neurodiversity. She works with companies to improve accessibility, inclusion and digital communication for diverse audiences.Episode Highlights00:05:26 — Learning to stop punishing herself Tania explains how self-awareness helped her recognize she was constantly blaming herself for not coping like others. Accepting how her brain works allowed her to prepare for environments instead of judging herself afterward.00:08:33 — Hyperfocus as a strength and a cost She describes hyperfocus as both a superpower and a risk. Getting days of work done in hours often comes at the expense of bodily needs and rest.00:12:00 — What accessible marketing really means Tania breaks down accessible marketing as making content easier for everyone to understand and act on. It’s not about compliance, but reducing friction for real human brains.00:18:00 — Burnout, rest, and “potato days” She shares how ignoring rest eventually forces it upon you. Planned rest becomes essential fuel, not a reward for productivity.00:23:22 — Visual systems to support an ADHD brain Tania explains how sticky notes, color, and visual cues help her manage overwhelm and follow through. External systems reduce cognitive load when memory and focus fluctuate.00:37:13 — Accepting slower mornings and letting go of “normal” She reflects on how ADHD self-awareness changed her mornings. Waking up slower became an act of self-respect instead of something to fix.Connect with Tania: Website: https://www.taniagerard.co.uk/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tania-gerard-neurodiversity/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/taniagerard.coConnect with Jeremy:LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/nageljeremyEmail: jeremy@focusbear.ioMore from Focus Bear:Website: https://focusbear.ioLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/focus-bear/Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@focusbearappTwitter: https://twitter.com/focusbear1Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/focus_bear/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/focusbearapp/Podcast: https://podcast.focusbear.ioTiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@focusbear
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