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Divergent States cuts through psychedelic hype with grounded, curious conversations about what these substances actually do.Hosted by 3L1T3, founder of r/Psychonaut, the world’s largest psychedelic harm-reduction community, and co-hosted by Bryan, a USMC veteran and advocate for psychedelic healing, the show brings together lived experience, science, and culture without losing its sense of humor.This isn’t a spiritual podcast.This isn’t a marketing platform.No mysticism. No sales pitch. Just real conversations, harm reduction, and honest questions.We explore how psychedelics shape mental health, creativity, and society, from underground use and peer-support communities to clinical trials, therapy rooms, and shifting public attitudes. Some episodes get serious. Some get weird. All of them are grounded in respect for the people actually taking these substances and living with the outcomes.Guests include Rick Doblin, Reggie Watts, Leonard Pickard, Anne Wagner, Hamilton Morris, and Rick Strassman.Divergent States is built on the same principles that made r/Psychonaut work at scale: curiosity without gullibility, openness without losing your footing, and safety without killing the joy.If you’re looking for guru worship, this isn’t your show.If you’re looking for thoughtful, funny, and grounded conversations about psychedelics and the lives they touch, welcome to Divergent States.New episodes every two weeks.
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- 1 weeks ago58 min
Naked Out Loud: Machan Taylor on Memory, Music, and MDMA Therapy
Machan Taylor has spent a lifetime using her voice. As a singer, songwriter, performer, and author of Naked Out Loud, she has worked with artists including Pink Floyd, Pat Benatar, George Benson, Hiroshima, Foreigner, and more. But this conversation is not about the glamorous parts of a music career. It is about memory, trauma, identity, and the parts of ourselves we leave behind. Machan joins 3L1T3 and Bryan for a grounded conversation about her memoir, her childhood in Japan, the grief of l...
- 3 weeks ago1h 3m
The Art of Psychedelic Peer Support | Zendo Project
What actually happens when a psychedelic experience becomes overwhelming in the middle of a concert, festival, or crowded event? 3L1T3 and Bryan sit down with Case Newsom, emergency medicine physician and medical director of the Zendo Project, to explore the practical art of psychedelic peer support. Case explains why helping someone through a difficult trip often means resisting the urge to take control, offering simple choices, and creating enough safety for the experience to unfold. They a...
- Jun 23, 202655 min
Who Should Be Allowed to Guide Psychedelic Experiences? | Dori Lewis
Dori Lewis is a psychotherapist, clinical supervisor, Natural Medicine Facilitator, and Co-Founder of Elemental Psychedelics. She also owns Reflective Healing Center, one of Colorado's licensed psychedelic healing centers. As psychedelic therapy moves from the underground into legal clinics and state-regulated systems, a difficult question emerges: what actually makes someone qualified to guide another person through a psychedelic experience? In this conversation, we explore the gap between l...
- Jun 8, 202655 min
The NFL Broke His Brain… Then Ibogaine Changed Everything | Robert Gallery
Former NFL player and College Football Hall of Famer Robert Gallery joins Divergent States for one of the most raw conversations we’ve had on the show. After retiring from professional football, Robert began experiencing intense rage episodes, suicidal thoughts, emotional instability, brain fog, and severe PTSD-like symptoms linked to repeated head trauma and brain injury from years in the NFL. What followed wasn’t a clean or simple recovery story. We talk about identity loss after profession...
- May 19, 20261h 4m
The Hidden Politics of Psychedelic Media | Dennis Walker
Dennis Walker joins Divergent States to unpack how psychedelic stories actually become “news,” why sensationalism dominates drug coverage, and how media narratives shape public perception around psychedelics. We discuss psychedelic exceptionalism, corporate psychedelics, satire as social critique, harm reduction, underground culture, MAPS, FDA approval, clinical gatekeeping, psychedelic tourism, and the growing divide between real-world psychedelic use and institutional messaging. Dennis is...
- May 5, 202656 min
Psychedelics Don’t Fix Your Life… Here’s What They Actually Do | Talia Eisenberg
Psychedelics don’t fix your life. They don’t make you a better person. They don’t replace responsibility. And they don’t solve the problems waiting for you when you come back. In this episode, we sit down with Talia Eisenberg from Beond to talk about what actually happens after a powerful psychedelic experience—especially with ibogaine. What changes, what doesn’t, and why the hardest part is often what comes after. We get into: why insight isn’t the same as changewhat people misunderstand abo...
- Apr 21, 202654 min
Psilocybin Therapy Works… But Not Like You Think, with Compass Pathways
If one or two psychedelic sessions can produce measurable improvements in treatment-resistant depression, why does modern psychiatry still rely on daily medication? In this episode of Divergent States, we sit down with Dr. Steve Levine, psychiatrist and Chief Patient Officer at Compass Pathways, to break down their newly released Phase 3 clinical trial results for COMP360 psilocybin therapy. But this isn’t a hype piece. This is a critical look at what the data actually shows—and what people m...
- Apr 6, 202648 min
Manuela Picq: The People Behind the Coca Leaf - The Many Faces of Coca Part Three
This is the human center of The Many Faces of Coca. By the time coca enters Western conversations, it’s already been abstracted—reduced to policy, drugs, or crime. But for millions of people, coca isn’t any of those things. It’s daily life. In this final episode of the series, we speak with political theorist and anthropologist Manuela Picq, who has lived and worked alongside communities in the Andes and Amazon. This conversation moves beyond theory and into lived reality—how coca functions a...
About Divergent States
Divergent States cuts through psychedelic hype with grounded, curious conversations about what these substances actually do.Hosted by 3L1T3, founder of r/Psychonaut, the world’s largest psychedelic harm-reduction community, and co-hosted by Bryan, a USMC veteran and advocate for psychedelic healing, the show brings together lived experience, science, and culture without losing its sense of humor.This isn’t a spiritual podcast.This isn’t a marketing platform.No mysticism. No sales pitch. Just real conversations, harm reduction, and honest questions.We explore how psychedelics shape mental health, creativity, and society, from underground use and peer-support communities to clinical trials, therapy rooms, and shifting public attitudes. Some episodes get serious. Some get weird. All of them are grounded in respect for the people actually taking these substances and living with the outcomes.Guests include Rick Doblin, Reggie Watts, Leonard Pickard, Anne Wagner, Hamilton Morris, and Rick Strassman.Divergent States is built on the same principles that made r/Psychonaut work at scale: curiosity without gullibility, openness without losing your footing, and safety without killing the joy.If you’re looking for guru worship, this isn’t your show.If you’re looking for thoughtful, funny, and grounded conversations about psychedelics and the lives they touch, welcome to Divergent States.New episodes every two weeks.
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