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by Julie Lokun and Mika Altidor
What happens when two women who refuse to play small sit down with the people actually changing the world — and the ones brave enough to tell the stories most shows won't touch? You get The Get Obsessed Podcast — a show built for people who are hungry for more truth, more transformation, and more proof that the life they're imagining is actually possible. Hosted by Julie Lokun and Mika Altidor, this is the podcast for dreamers who are done dreaming and ready to move. Julie is a legal advocate, entrepreneur, and mother of four who has spent years studying what it truly takes to succeed. Mika is a fierce business owner and meditation facilitator obsessed with self-development who knows what it takes to turn a life around. Together they bring zero filters, radical honesty, and an unshakable belief that you were built for more than you've been told. We go places other podcasts won't. We have explored the inner world of Scientology — the beliefs, the pull, the controversy, and what it means for the people inside it. We sat with Janelle Brown from TLC's Sister Wives and went deep into what it really looks like to live outside the lines of what society calls normal, to question everything, and to find your own definition of family and freedom. Dr. Christine Marie, featured in the #1 Netflix documentary Trust Me: The False Prophet, joined us to unpack manipulation, control, and how even the smartest people can be led astray — and more importantly, how to find your way back. These are not comfortable conversations. They are necessary ones. And then there are the guests who show up to teach you how to build. Gary Vaynerchuk on turning obsession into empires. Evan Carmichael on finding your purpose and never letting go. David Meltzer on staying grateful and driven when the odds are stacked against you. Jim Kwik, author of Limitless, on unlocking what your mind is actually capable of. Dr. Laura Berman — Oprah's go-to love expert — on grief, healing, and choosing to keep living fully. Dr. Nadine Macaluso on trauma and reclaiming your story. Dr. Sherrie Campbell on breaking free from toxic relationships for good. Gina DeVee, the woman who inspired this show to exist, on building a life entirely on your own terms. Kim D. from The Real Housewives and Lt. Joe Kenda, the Homicide Hunter, on the stories that shape us. At the heart of every episode is one question: how do we actually live our best life — not the curated version, not the one we perform for others, but the real one? The one that lights us up, challenges us, and makes us feel fully alive. That is what we are building here, one conversation at a time.
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In this episode of the Get Obsessed podcast, Julie Lokun and Mika sit down with Naomi “Nomz” Bistline, who was raised in the FLDS and later appeared in the Netflix documentary Trust Me: The False Prophet, to talk about growing up in a high control society and how she reclaimed her own story. Naomi explains what the FLDS is, why she now sees it as a cult rather than a church, and how obedience, separation from family, and assigned relationships shaped her childhood. She describes being told at 19 that she belonged to Samuel Bateman, how his control wore down her sense of self, and why victims sometimes move closer to the person who poses the greatest threat. She also shares the events that led to her arrest, her nearly two years in pretrial detention, and her testimony against Sam. Naomi calls prison both the best and worst thing that ever happened to her. It gave her space to think for herself, to read over 300 books, and to discover music. The conversation closes with her life today, including psychology studies, songwriting, and her hope of building a music career. In this episode, we discuss: Growing up in the FLDS and how curiosity and imagination kept her going What the FLDS is and why Naomi views it as a cult How families were separated and how she came to be placed with a caretaker Being told at 19 that she belonged to Samuel Bateman Why victims can grow close to their abusers and how coercive control made her feel robotic The arrest, the time in pretrial detention, and testifying against Sam Why prison was both the best and worst thing to happen to her Finding freedom through books, music, and a guitar ABOUT THE GUEST: Naomi “Nomz” Bistline, who now goes by Nomzia, was born and raised in the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (FLDS), a polygamist sect that broke away from mainstream Mormonism. At 19, she was told she belonged to Samuel Bateman, a self-proclaimed prophet who claimed to be Warren Jeffs’ heir, and she became one of his most loyal wives. She was released from prison on September 4, 2024. Since then, she has been studying psychology, writing music, and working in the fashion world, pursuing the things she was told she could never do. Naomi is the only one of Bateman’s wives interviewed on camera for the Netflix documentary Trust Me: The False Prophet, released in 2026. She is now sharing her story in her own words and working toward a career in music. MENTIONED IN THE EPISODE: (Netflix documentary) Trust Me: The False Prophet - https://www.netflix.com/title/81758532 (Episode) Get Obsessed conversation with Dr. Christine Marie - [ADD LINK] CONNECT WITH NAOMI BISTLINE: Website: https://www.nomzia.com/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/NomziBistline/ X (Twitter): https://x.com/nomzia_b Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nomzia_b/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@nomzia_b ABOUT GET OBSESSED Website: www.getobsessedpodcast.com Be a Guest! http://www.getobsessedguest.com Reach Out To Us! hello@getobsessedmedia.com The Get Obsessed podcast is dedicated to exploring the passions, mindsets, and habits that drive high performers. We believe that what you obsess over defines your future. LISTEN, RATE, REVIEW AND SUBSCRIBE - Get Obsessed : With Living Your Best Life - Podcast - Apple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/get-obsessed-with-living-your-best-life/id1559480972 Chapters: 00:00 Introduction 01:35 Welcome, Nomz 02:08 Who Nomz was before Sam: curiosity and imagination 03:57 What the FLDS is and how it differs from mainstream Mormonism 04:37 A church or a cult? 05:56 When she first realized something wasn’t right 09:25 Why victims grow close to their abusers 11:20 Warren Jeffs and life under the prophet 13:04 Her dad is sent away and the family is separated 15:45 Being introduced to Sam Bateman 18:14 Why she never became pregnant 20:12 Watching herself in the documentary 23:00 Was there any joy? Mind control and belief 26:49 Becoming “robotic” under Sam’s control 28:53 The arrest and the
ulie Lokun shares how Barbie play shaped her confidence, career, and creativity, and how to reclaim the joy you had as a kid. What toy made you who you are? Primary Keywords: reclaim your inner child, imaginative play, personal growth, creative confidence, Julie Lokun, Get Obsessed Podcast, how to find joy again Secondary Keywords: Barbie and self-discovery, childhood play and identity, reinvention, women and ambition, career change confidence, creative burnout, personal development podcast, living your best life Episode Description Before she had a microphone, a law degree, or a single listener, Julie Lokun, JD had a shag carpet and a shoebox full of Barbies. She’d beg for five more minutes before dinner because Barbie was mid-scene: a board meeting, a breakup, and a gala, all on the same Saturday. Nobody understood the stakes like she did. In this solo episode of Get Obsessed, Julie goes back to that girl on the floor and finds something bigger than playtime. The bathtub became Malibu, a jewelry box became the nightclub, and the doll with the kitchen-scissors haircut became the rebel. Every doll had a backstory, and every storyline ran for days. Barbie was an astronaut, a doctor, a news anchor, a CEO, a best friend, a wife, and a mom. On that carpet, Julie was all of them too. Her Barbie gave closing arguments to a jury of stuffed animals and anchored the evening news into a hairbrush mic. Lawyer, journalist, host. She wasn’t daydreaming. She was rehearsing, trying on every future version of herself with zero risk and total permission. Then she says what so many of us feel: somewhere along the line, I lost that. This episode is about why imaginative play is the safest place to be ambitious, why adults trade that freedom for deadlines, algorithms, and comparison, and how to go back to the carpet. Whether you played with dolls, Legos, chalk, or ruled a backyard kingdom, your favorite toy is a clue to who you already are. What You’ll Learn Why imaginative play is a safe place to be ambitious, and why nobody laughs at a little girl when her dolls run the company How childhood play lets you try on future versions of yourself with zero risk and total permission Why reinvention isn’t flaky: in Barbie Land, a career change is just a new outfit How adults unlearn creative freedom through deadlines, algorithms, and comparison Why scrappy resourcefulness (sock dresses, tinfoil gowns, Tupperware-lid pools) builds lifelong confidence How to reconnect with the version of you who created purely for joy Memorable Moments “Barbie did not make me pretty. Barbie made me a creative.” “I wasn’t daydreaming, I was rehearsing.” “Somewhere along the line, I lost that.” “Adults schedule brainstorms. Kids just go.” “That’s just a new outfit in Barbie Land.” “I want to go back to that girl in that room when I could create with joy.” Your Challenge, Obsessors What did you play with for hours as a kid? It’s a clue to who you already are. Tell Julie what toy shaped you. Drop it in the comments or DM @getobsessedpodcast on Instagram. She wants your origin story. Links and Resources Get Obsessed Podcast Website: https://www.getobsessedpodcast.com Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/id1559480972 Be a guest: http://www.getobsessedguest.com Partner with Get Obsessed: http://www.getobsessedpod.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/getobsessedpodcast Julie Lokun, JD Julie Lokun Consulting: https://www.julielokunconsulting.com Big Better Brand: https://www.bigbetterbrand.com The Creative Entrepreneur Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/id1594499253 Cre8tive Con Cre8tive Con (flagship Chicago conference): https://www.cre8tivecon.com Cre8tive Con OTR (traveling series, including the Orlando stop on January 14, 2027): https://www.cre8tiveconotr.com Own Your Ecosystem assessment:
What is it actually like to have Janelle Brown from Sister Wives as your life coach? Before this chapter of Janelle Brown's life became part of the conversation millions are watching unfold, Julie Lokun and Mika Altidor had the unique opportunity to experience Janelle in a very different role: as their life coach. In this episode of Get Obsessed Podcast, Julie and Mika share their personal experience working with Janelle and some of the life-coaching advice, guidance and lessons that stayed with them. Life coaching can be a transformative experience, offering guidance, support and practical tools to help us move toward our personal and professional goals. For Julie and Mika, their journey with Janelle was an opportunity to gain greater clarity, strengthen confidence and think intentionally about what they wanted to create next. One of the things that stood out about Janelle's coaching style was her ability to listen deeply while bringing the conversation back to practical action. Her approach created space to examine challenges honestly, think through obstacles and identify tangible next steps rather than simply talking about change. In this episode, Julie and Mika explore lessons around: • Gaining clarity about what you truly want • Setting meaningful personal and professional goals • Moving through obstacles instead of remaining stuck • Building confidence in your own decisions • Creating actionable steps toward the life you envision • Staying motivated when change doesn't happen overnight • The value of having someone ask the questions you may not be asking yourself Because sometimes transformation doesn't begin with having all the answers. It begins with asking yourself better questions. Whether you've followed Janelle's journey on Sister Wives, are curious about life coaching, or you're navigating a transition of your own, this conversation is ultimately about something much bigger: taking an active role in creating what comes next. At Get Obsessed Podcast, that's what we're obsessed with—learning from fascinating people, challenging the stories that keep us stuck and discovering what it really takes to create a life that feels authentically yours. Get inspired. Get motivated. Get obsessed. ️ New episodes of Get Obsessed Podcast: With Living Your Best Life every week. Follow us on Instagram: @getobsessedpodcast Explore more: getobsessedpodcast.com Want to be a guest? getobsessedguest.com Contact: hello@getobsessedmedia.com #GetObsessedPodcast #JanelleBrown #SisterWives #LifeCoaching #PersonalGrowth #Motivation #SelfDevelopment #LifeCoach #Transformation Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
Obsessors, this one’s a treat (not a trick). For Halloween, we’re sharing an episode from Julie’s other show, The Creative Entrepreneur Podcast, co-hosted with Dominick Domasky. If you love a deep dive into what makes people tick, especially the darkest corners of the human mind, you’re going to be obsessed with this conversation. Julie and Dom sit down with Karen Conti, veteran Chicago trial attorney, host of The Karen Conti Show on WGN Radio 720, and award-winning author of Killing Time with John Wayne Gacy: Defending America’s Most Evil Serial Killer on Death Row. Karen served on the final death row defense team for John Wayne Gacy, the “Killer Clown” who murdered 33 young men and boys and buried most of them beneath his Chicago-area home. She takes us inside the lockup where she first met him, explains how a sociopath and narcissist can mask his sickness so convincingly, and shares why she fought his execution even knowing he was guilty. Then she reveals how the death threats that followed turned into a 30-year media career on CNN, Fox News, MSNBC, and WGN. Plus, a spooky-season round of Jules’s Rules: the most infamous serial killers of all time, from Jeffrey Dahmer and Ted Bundy to Ed Kemper, Ed Gein, the Green River Killer, and Karen’s all-time pick, Jack the Ripper. Yes, Julie confesses she couldn’t finish the Gacy or Ed Gein series on Netflix. Why Obsessors Will Love This Episode What John Wayne Gacy was really like face to face The psychology of masking: how the most dangerous people can seem ordinary, even likable Why someone would choose to defend “the boogeyman” of Chicago How Karen turned the darkest chapter of her career into a spotlight Why our fascination with true crime never fades, from Jack the Ripper to today’s Netflix hits Karen’s media tips on being camera ready, finding your lane, and why likability is everything ️ Quotes From the Episode “Stretch your abilities, have confidence, and then work hard to prove that you can do what you say you’re going to do.” — Karen Conti “My father always told me, ‘I can’t make people laugh unless they like me.’” — Karen Conti Frequently Asked Questions Who is Karen Conti? A Chicago trial attorney, legal analyst, host of The Karen Conti Show on WGN Radio 720, and author of Killing Time with John Wayne Gacy. Did Karen Conti defend John Wayne Gacy? Yes. She was part of his final death row appeals team in the early 1990s. Her goal was never to free him, but to stop the execution because she opposes the death penalty. What is The Creative Entrepreneur Podcast? A top-ranked business news podcast hosted by Julie Lokun and Dominick Domasky, where entrepreneurship, media strategy, and pop culture collide. Why is this episode on the Get Obsessed feed? Because Obsessors love a deep look at human behavior, true crime, and the stories behind the headlines, and this Halloween conversation delivers all three. Connect With Karen Conti Website: www.karenconti.com Killing Time with John Wayne Gacy on Amazon: https://a.co/d/egZPLpV Audiobook (narrated by Karen): Audible The Karen Conti Show, WGN Radio 720: wgnradio.com/karen-conti 𝕏 X/Twitter: @Kcontilaw ️ Follow The Creative Entrepreneur Podcast Podcast home: www.cre8tiveconpod.com Julie Lokun, JD: www.julielokunconsulting.com | julie@cre8tivecon.com Dominick Domasky: www.motivationchamps.com | dom@cre8tivecon.com ️ Join Us Live Cre8tive Con OTR Orlando: www.cre8tiveconotr.com Cre8tive Con Chicago: www.cre8tivecon.com Stay Obsessed Watch Get Obsessed on YouTube: @obsessedpodcast If this episode gave you chills, follow The Creative Entrepreneur Podcast wherever you listen, then co
In this episode of the Get Obsessed podcast, Julie Lokun and Mika sit down with Tiana Locke, founder and host of The Petty Headquarters, to dig into reality TV, the drama on screen, and the choices made behind the scenes. Tiana shares how growing up on shows like Bad Girls Club and Flavor of Love led her to build a podcast around recaps and the deeper meaning of messy entertainment. She explains how networks like TLC market a polished image, why drama keeps audiences watching, and how pressure, producers, and social media can strain the families and couples who appear on these shows. The conversation also looks at where producers should draw ethical lines, using the America’s Next Top Model documentary as an example. Tiana talks about how casting is shifting toward influencers, what she notices as an editor, and the villain and hero archetypes that drive a story. The episode wraps with a rapid-fire reality TV round and a look at what episode one of The Petty Headquarters would be if it became its own reality show. In this episode, we discuss: 01:30 How growing up on reality TV led Tiana to start The Petty Headquarters 06:48 Why networks like TLC market a polished brand while drama stays behind the scenes 10:14 Whether celebrity couples are real or a PR stunt, and how the spotlight strains families 16:16 When producers cross boundaries, and what their ethical duty should be 21:14 Why conflict, villains, and heroes make a good reality TV story 23:36 The shift toward influencer casting and what it means for “reality” 27:14 A rapid-fire round on Bravo housewives, Bachelor villains, messy breakups, and more 34:07 What episode one of The Petty Headquarters reality show would look like ABOUT THE GUEST: Tiana Locke is the founder and host of The Petty Headquarters, a podcast covering reality TV recaps, celebrity drama, and pop culture. Rather than just gossiping, she analyzes how women perform identity, power, love, and survival on camera, and what that says about the people watching at home. Tiana is also a podcast brand strategist who helps creators grow and monetize their shows. She has been editing for over 12 years and co-hosts The Petty Headquarters with her girlfriend and business partner. MENTIONED IN THE EPISODE: (Episode) Julie’s conversation with Keandra Jackson, an accredited family therapist who analyzes pop culture and has served as an on-hand therapist for reality TV shows on Oprah Winfrey’s network (Episodes) Past Get Obsessed reality TV guests: Janelle Brown of Sister Wives, David Toborowski of 90 Day Fiancé, Savannah Louie (winner of Survivor 49), and Hardy of The Golden Bachelor (Netflix documentary) Reality Check: Inside America’s Next Top Model - https://media.netflix.com/en/only-on-netflix/81928842 CONNECT WITH TIANA LOCKE: Website: https://thepettyheadquarters.com Instagram (Tiana): https://www.instagram.com/its.tianalocke Instagram (The Petty Headquarters): https://www.instagram.com/thepettyheadquarters LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tianalocke/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ThePettyHeadquarters TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@pettysimproductions Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThePettyHeadquarters Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-petty-headquarters/id1703678575 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0GrqHPYkRrEe65VtrsRgCx ABOUT GET OBSESSED Website: www.getobsessedpodcast.com Be a Guest! http://www.getobsessedguest.com Reach Out To Us! hello@getobsessedmedia.com The Get Obsessed podcast is dedicated to exploring the passions, mindsets, and habits that drive high performers. We believe that what you obsess over defines your future. LISTEN, RATE, REVIEW AND SUBSCRIBE - Get Obsessed : With Living Your Best Life - Podcast - Apple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/get-obsessed-with-living-yo
In this episode of the Get Obsessed podcast, Julie Lokun sits down with Kim D, the Bravo personality, boutique owner, and author, for a candid conversation about power, love, and fear. The discussion draws on her memoir My Life with the Big Boys, which Julie co-authored. Kim describes growing up in New Jersey with a mother who clawed her way out of poverty and a stepfather she says held a high-ranking role in the Gambino crime family. She recalls a childhood of fur coats, expensive dresses, and nights at the Copacabana, alongside the moment her mother realized the true cost of that life. She also shares how fashion and animals became lifelong sources of comfort. The conversation moves through Kim’s relationships, from her high school love to a dangerous marriage and her escape from it, to the partner she calls the love of her life. Kim offers frank advice on choosing the right person to have children with, explains why she is happy living on her own terms today, and encourages listeners who are struggling to reach out for support. In this episode, we discuss: How Kim’s mother rose out of poverty and shaped her strength Growing up in the orbit of her stepfather’s world and what she understood about it as a child The confirmation and communion weekend that changed her mother’s view of that life Why clothes and animals became Kim’s refuge, plus the story of Rocco-turned-Coco A high school love story and the choices that led to a very different kind of relationship Advice on how to tell a great boyfriend from a good husband and father Leaving a violent marriage and why preparing before you leave matters Kim’s soulmate, the life they built, and why she now enjoys her solitude Why getting the right professional help matters, and where to find support ABOUT THE GUEST: Kim DePaola, known to fans as Kim D, is a television personality, entrepreneur, and author best known for her recurring role on Bravo’s The Real Housewives of New Jersey. She is the founder of Posche, a women’s fashion boutique established in 2007 and featured on the show. Kim is the author of the memoir My Life with the Big Boys, co-authored with Julie Lokun, and the host of the podcast Get Real with Kim D, where she covers reality TV and the cases making headlines. MENTIONED IN THE EPISODE: (Book) My Life with the Big Boys by Kim D and Julie Lokun - https://www.amazon.de/-/en/Life-Big-Boys-Kim-Paola/dp/B0D6LTQT5V (Podcast) Get Real with Kim D (Book) My Life in the Mafia by Vincent Teresa (Support) Call 988 if you are struggling emotionally and need someone to talk to CONNECT WITH KIM D: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kimdposche Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/p/Kim-DePaola-100078877961747/ X: https://x.com/KimDPosche Podcast, Get Real with Kim D: https://www.patreon.com/cw/GetRealwithKimD Shop Posche & the book: https://www.poschebykimd.com ABOUT GET OBSESSED Website: www.getobsessedpodcast.com Be a Guest! http://www.getobsessedguest.com Reach Out To Us! hello@getobsessedmedia.com The Get Obsessed podcast is dedicated to exploring the passions, mindsets, and habits that drive high performers. We believe that what you obsess over defines your future. LISTEN, RATE, REVIEW AND SUBSCRIBE - Get Obsessed : With Living Your Best Life - Podcast - Apple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/get-obsessed-with-living-your-best-life/id1559480972 Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
In this episode of the Get Obsessed podcast, Julie Lokun and co-host Mika sit down with Markus Kaulius, author of Play a Bigger Game, to explore how a 15-year-old with no confidence made a decisive choice to change the direction of his life. Markus shares what rock bottom looked like for him, why habits and daily action matter more than long hours, and why changing the people around you can transform how you think and what you believe is possible. He also takes on the excuses of money and time, and explains why consistency over years, not overnight success, is what builds a bigger life. The conversation also covers how to handle setbacks when life gets in the way, how to choose mentors and role models who reflect the values you want for yourself, and how Markus came to see growing up without a father as a gift. He challenges listeners to find one answer to the question “what if my biggest scar was actually my greatest gift?” In this episode, we discuss: Markus’s rock bottom at 15 and the decision that changed his trajectory What rock bottom looks and feels like, and why habits and same-day action matter Why changing your environment and surrounding yourself with growth-minded people accelerates change Moving past the excuses of money and time Consistency, the myth of overnight success, and how to handle setbacks Choosing role models and mentors with integrity and the life you want Reframing family trauma and a father’s absence as a gift ABOUT THE GUEST: Markus Kaulius is a serial entrepreneur and the founder of multiple eight and nine-figure businesses. He is a USA Today top 10 best-selling author and a speaker who mentors CEOs and executives on growth, mindset, health, and faith. He is best known as the founder of Magnum Nutraceuticals, the supplement brand he grew from a startup to over $170 million in global sales before selling it in 2023. His work and insights have been featured on major media including PBS, Fox News, and CNN. Markus is the author of Play a Bigger Game: Seven Universal Principles to Experience True Fulfillment and Win at Life. His latest venture is Five Talent Capital, an investment fund that pairs uncorrelated investing with a mission to pull one million children out of the sex trade. MENTIONED IN THE EPISODE: (Book) Play a Bigger Game - https://playabiggergame.com CONNECT WITH MARKUS KAULIUS: Website: https://playabiggergame.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/markus.kaulius Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/markuskaulius/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/markuskaulius/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@MarkusKaulius ABOUT GET OBSESSED Website: www.getobsessedpodcast.com Be a Guest! http://www.getobsessedguest.com Reach Out To Us! hello@getobsessedmedia.com The Get Obsessed podcast is dedicated to exploring the passions, mindsets, and habits that drive high performers. We believe that what you obsess over defines your future. LISTEN, RATE, REVIEW AND SUBSCRIBE - Get Obsessed : With Living Your Best Life - Podcast - Apple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/get-obsessed-with-living-your-best-life/id1559480972 Timestamp: 00:00 Cold open: “are you ready to play a bigger game?” 01:03 Introducing Markus Kaulius and Play a Bigger Game 01:55 How Julie and Mika met Markus at the Bookthinkers event 03:23 Hitting rock bottom at 15 and deciding to change 04:37 What rock bottom looks and feels like, and why habits matter 06:43 Keeping the change going when your environment stays the same 10:25 What to do when money, time, or a bad situation feel like blockers 14:21 What happens when life gets in the way of the steps you take 16:28 The myth of overnight success and why consistency wins 18:36 The “excuse generation” and who to trust for guidance 19:45 Finding mentors with integrity (and the values you want) 23:32 Why growing up without a dad became Markus’s greatest gift 25:59 Julie and Mika’s closing message Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
In this episode of the Get Obsessed podcast, Julie Lokun sits down with Janelle Brown, a mother of six, farmer, life coach, and one of the best-known faces of reality TV, to talk about 25 years of plural marriage, the decision to leave, and the new chapter she is building on her own terms. Janelle looks back at why her family went public, what it was like to live on camera for years, and how she learned to manage jealousy by understanding her own worth. She talks about raising children in the spotlight, loving her stepchildren as her own, and how the family's approach to mental health changed after the loss of her son Garrison. She also reflects on his legacy, including a room dedicated to him at a local Humane Society. The conversation then turns to the unraveling of her marriage, the moment she knew it was truly over, and her views on empowering women through education, choice, and legal protection. Janelle shares her coaching work, her cross-country move to North Carolina to build a farm with her daughter Maddie and son-in-law Caleb, and her advice for anyone afraid to leave what feels familiar and start a second chapter. In this episode, we discuss: Life before the cameras and the ideal of the big, loving family Why the family went public and what it meant to be unscripted on TV Learning to move past jealousy and build self-worth Raising children in the spotlight and loving stepchildren as her own Garrison's legacy and normalizing open conversations about mental health The unraveling of the marriage and what made the final break permanent Why empowering women changes everything Starting over with a coaching business, a North Carolina farm, and a peaceful new life Advice for women who are afraid to leave and start a second chapter ABOUT THE GUEST: Janelle Brown is best known as one of the stars of TLC's Sister Wives, which premiered in 2010 and followed her family for more than a decade. She is a mother of six who left a decades-long plural marriage and rebuilt her life on her own terms. Janelle holds an accounting degree and has worked in financial services and real estate. In 2019 she became a certified health coach through the Institute for Integrative Nutrition and founded the wellness and coaching business Strive with Janelle. Her work now focuses on women in their second chapter, including empty nesters and women navigating major life transitions, helping them reclaim confidence, rediscover their passions, and design a life that feels like their own through Second Chapter Coaching. Janelle also co-founded Taeda Farms, a flower farm in North Carolina, with her daughter Maddie and son-in-law Caleb. MENTIONED IN THE EPISODE: (TV show) Sister Wives (TLC) - https://www.tvmaze.com/shows/1390/sister-wives (Coaching business) Strive with Janelle - https://www.secondchaptercoaching.com/ (Netflix documentary) Trust Me: The False Prophet - https://www.netflix.com/title/81758532 CONNECT WITH JANELLE BROWN: Website: https://www.secondchaptercoaching.com/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/STRIVEwithJanelle X (Twitter): https://x.com/JanelleBrown117 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/janellebrown117/ ABOUT GET OBSESSED Website: www.getobsessedpodcast.com Be a Guest! http://www.getobsessedguest.com Reach Out To Us! hello@getobsessedmedia.com The Get Obsessed podcast is dedicated to exploring the passions, mindsets, and habits that drive high performers. We believe that what you obsess over defines your future. LISTEN, RATE, REVIEW AND SUBSCRIBE - Get Obsessed : With Living Your Best Life - Podcast - Apple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/get-obsessed-with-living-your-best-life/id1559480972 TIMESTAMPS 0:00 Cold open and guest introduction 0:34 Life before the cameras and chasing the ideal family 2:05 Why the family went public 3:21 Learning to move past jealousy and build self-worth 7:03 Was the scrutiny worth it? 7:59 Raising children in the spotlight 9:06 Loving stepchildren as her own 11:15 The fear before the sho
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What happens when two women who refuse to play small sit down with the people actually changing the world — and the ones brave enough to tell the stories most shows won't touch? You get The Get Obsessed Podcast — a show built for people who are hungry for more truth, more transformation, and more proof that the life they're imagining is actually possible. Hosted by Julie Lokun and Mika Altidor, this is the podcast for dreamers who are done dreaming and ready to move. Julie is a legal advocate, entrepreneur, and mother of four who has spent years studying what it truly takes to succeed. Mika is a fierce business owner and meditation facilitator obsessed with self-development who knows what it takes to turn a life around. Together they bring zero filters, radical honesty, and an unshakable belief that you were built for more than you've been told. We go places other podcasts won't. We have explored the inner world of Scientology — the beliefs, the pull, the controversy, and what it means for the people inside it. We sat with Janelle Brown from TLC's Sister Wives and went deep into what it really looks like to live outside the lines of what society calls normal, to question everything, and to find your own definition of family and freedom. Dr. Christine Marie, featured in the #1 Netflix documentary Trust Me: The False Prophet, joined us to unpack manipulation, control, and how even the smartest people can be led astray — and more importantly, how to find your way back. These are not comfortable conversations. They are necessary ones. And then there are the guests who show up to teach you how to build. Gary Vaynerchuk on turning obsession into empires. Evan Carmichael on finding your purpose and never letting go. David Meltzer on staying grateful and driven when the odds are stacked against you. Jim Kwik, author of Limitless, on unlocking what your mind is actually capable of. Dr. Laura Berman — Oprah's go-to love expert — on grief, healing, and choosing to keep living fully. Dr. Nadine Macaluso on trauma and reclaiming your story. Dr. Sherrie Campbell on breaking free from toxic relationships for good. Gina DeVee, the woman who inspired this show to exist, on building a life entirely on your own terms. Kim D. from The Real Housewives and Lt. Joe Kenda, the Homicide Hunter, on the stories that shape us. At the heart of every episode is one question: how do we actually live our best life — not the curated version, not the one we perform for others, but the real one? The one that lights us up, challenges us, and makes us feel fully alive. That is what we are building here, one conversation at a time.
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