195. How to Build a Business People Remember, Trust & Buy From with Pat Flynn & Liz Wilcox

What actually happens when more people know your name? In this episode, I sit down with Pat Flynn, founder of Smart Passive Income, and Liz Wilcox, email marketing expert and new owner of SPI, to talk about what visibility does for a business, why the right audience matters more than a massive audience, and how to build a business that thrives beyond its founder. We talk about starting with almost nothing, why connections can matter more than cash, what Liz learned from being watched by millions on Survivor, and the surprising ways massive visibility can help and hurt your business. Get ready to rethink visibility, community, and what it really takes to build a business that lasts.   Thank you to my sponsors: Launch your business with Shopify. Start your one-dollar-per-month trial here: ⁠⁠http://shopify.com/chc⁠⁠ The live selling marketplace: Whatnot. Check it out here: ⁠⁠http://whatnot.com/⁠⁠/ The essential toolkit for telling better storiesStoryblocks: ⁠⁠http://www.storyblocks.com/chc Quince: http://quince.com/chc ShipStation: 60 days free using code: CHC http://ShipStation.com Brevo- Get 50% off: http://brevo.com/creator In this episode, you will learn: 00:00 Does visibility mean more money, customers, and opportunities? 02:45 How Pat built Smart Passive Income after getting laid off. 05:30 How Liz turned an RV travel blog into a profitable online business. 11:00 Do you really need money to start an online business? 14:00 Why the right connections are more valuable than having more money. 18:45 Did Survivor actually grow Liz’s business? 22:30 What should you consider before selling or handing off your business? 28:00 What happens when you're too close to your business to think about selling it? 32:15 Why you don’t need a massive audience to become the go-to person in your niche. 35:00 How to bring someone new into your business without losing what makes your brand special. 39:15 Tips to create an engaged community instead of just another membership. 43:00 What makes a community different from a membership? 45:30 Ways to create offers that get people to take action. 48:15 What would you do if you had to start your business from scratch? Resources + Links Learn more about Smart Passive Income HERE! Explore the Superfan System HERE! Grab ⁠⁠The Visibility Vault™⁠⁠⁠ – 150+ Canva templates + done-for-you captions to help you stay consistent and get seen online.  Ready to grow your visibility? Find more resources here! Follow Katelyn on IG: @thekatelynrhoades Call Her Creator on IG: @callhercreator Pat Flynn on IG: @patflynn Liz Wilcox on IG: @thelizwilcox