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by Meg Ferrell
A podcast for professionals looking to support the deepest wellbeing of their neurodivergent clients. We focus on lived experiences, research, affirming practices, intersectionality, and the practical ways we can support authentic wellbeing.
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- 2 weeks ago53 min
Supporting Twice Exceptional Autistic Kids
Kids who are very intellectually bright and also Autistic have a unique set of struggles, one that is often missed, silenced, or poorly supported. They may struggle with shame, perfectionism, self-advocacy, boredom, dysregulation, being misidentified, and being misunderstood.Today's episode with school psychologist and parent coach Dr. Danika Maddocks covers the ways 2E kids are struggling that are so often missed, and how we can show up to support them. For show notes as well as in-person and livestreamed CE trainings visit learnplaythrive.comFor more episodes visit patreon.com/learnplaythrive
- Sep 2, 202647 min
Systems Let Autistic People Down, But They Don't Have To. Here's How To Change It
When Dr. Mel Houser started medical school, they never imagined that they would later find themselves reimagining healthcare for neurodivergent people. But their work has been remarkable - and offers all of us a template for challenging systems that create barriers to health, belonging, and participation. This episode explores four key ideas: healthcare is more than medical care; solutions should come from those closest to the problem; universal design creates multiple paths to participation; and safety is the foundation for meaningful participation. Dr. Mel Houser is a family physician, the founder and executive director of All Brains Belong Vermont, and the author of the upcoming book, A Failure of Imagination: How the healthcare system fails neurodivergent people - and what we're doing instead. For show notes as well as in-person and livestreamed CE trainings visit learnplaythrive.comFor more episodes visit patreon.com/learnplaythrive
- Aug 5, 202643 min
Who Gets to Be Heard? The Case For Researching Assisted Methods to Autistic Communication
Here's what we know: assisted methods to teaching typing have been highly controversial in the field of speech-language pathology and simultaneously have been passionately defended by many non-speaking Autistics. In a recent paper, researcher Vikram Jaswal, along with a team including Dr. Kristie Patten, Dr. Barry Prizant, and several others, argued that we need more research on assisted communication methods so that we can get clearer answers. On the podcast today, Dr. Jaswal and Italk about what all of this means, why it has been so controversial, and what steps might help us understand the potential - and the limitations - of assisted communication methods. For show notes as well as in-person and livestreamed CE trainings visit learnplaythrive.comFor more episodes visit patreon.com/learnplaythrive
- Jul 15, 202656 min
How to Work in Collaboration With Your PDA Clients with Stacey Curnow
Ever wondered how to apply Dr. Ross Green's model of Collaborative & Proactive Solutions to your work with PDA clients? Today's guest, AuDHD mental health therapist Stacey Curnow, is writing a book about it with Dr. Green's collaboration and oversight. In today's episode, we talk about what exactly collaboration looks like in practice with PDA clients. We also dive into supporting parents, teaching daily living skills, supporting PDAers with aggressive behaviors, PDA kids in burnout, and so much more. For show notes as well as in-person and livestreamed CE trainings visit learnplaythrive.comFor more episodes visit patreon.com/learnplaythrive
- Jul 1, 202648 min
Safety, Trust, & Authenticity: How PDA Experiences Can Inform Our Practices with Diane Gould, Ruth Hevelone, and Michele Kleinmann
The folks at PDA North America recently surveyed over 2,000 families about PDA (Pathological Demand Avoidance, or the Pervasive Drive for Autonomy). What they learned has major implications for your clinical practice. In today’s episode, you'll hear from Diane Gould, Ruth Hevelone, and Michele Kleinmann. We talk about what they learned from their PDA Experiences survey, as well as the practices that are supportive for PDAers. We talk about respect, partnership, flexibility, authenticity, congruency, and more. We also address in depth that question that so many of us get when we are accommodating our Autistic clients: "What about the real world?" If you support PDA-ers, after you listen to this conversation, make sure to also check out our Patreon where we have providers talking in-depth about how they support PDA-ers in the context of everyday SLP, OT, mental health practice. They go into how to move through rupture and repair when they get it wrong, some of our guests talk about how to support PDA-ers in burnout, how to bring autonomy into everything including regulation, and more. It's just $7 for over 30-hours of content and you can find it at patreon.com/learnplaythrive. Your support on Patreon helps us cover the cost of this podcast and keep it going. For show notes as well as in-person and livestreamed CE trainings visit learnplaythrive.comFor more episodes visit patreon.com/learnplaythrive
- Jun 24, 20261h 25m
Tools That Get Neurodivergent Folks Through Feeling Stuck, Overwhelmed, Unmotivated, Disorganized, and Discouraged with Dani Donovan
When it comes to helping neurodivergent folks find playful, engaging ways to do the things they need to do, ADHD content creator Dani Donoval is the most creative person I’ve ever met. By the end of this episode, you’ll be grabbing a 20-sided die and turning your neurodivergent client into their own Dungeons and Dragons character, springboarding them out of "stuck" and into action. On this podcast, we know that our clients’ worthiness has never and will never be tied to our ability to do more and produce more. And at the same time, we know that many people struggle to do the things they have to do. Dani has broken the barriers down into five subcategories: stuck, overwhelmed, unmotivated, disorganized, and discouraged. In this episode, she helps us work through what the different types of barriers look like, and we dive into what specific strategies can help. Dani Donovan is an ADHD comic artist and the author of The Anti-Planner. For show notes as well as in-person and livestreamed CE trainings visit learnplaythrive.comFor more episodes visit patreon.com/learnplaythrive
- Jun 10, 202642 min
When Your Client Needs Novelty & Routines All At Once: Supporting AuDHDers with Dr. Bowen Marshall, LPCC, PhD
This episode is a deep and nuanced exploration into the seemingly competing needs of being Autistic and being ADHD. We call these folks AuDHD-ers, and they're often faced with both the need for routines that comes with being Autistic and the craving for novelty that comes with ADHD. In this episode, AuDHD psychotherapist, Dr. Bowen Marshall, helps us explore all of the complexities around AuDHD, including how ADHD and autism can be complementary and how that may change when one condition is medicated. We talk about what's tricky and what helps, and we look in every corner of this to explore the complexities of this topic, like dopamine, executive function, routines, estrogen, testosterone, gender identity, race, and more. Dr. Bowen Marshall, PhD is a licensed psychotherapist, bestselling author, and consultant specializing in ADHD, Autism, relationships, and Complex-PTSD. For show notes as well as in-person and livestreamed CE trainings visit learnplaythrive.comFor more episodes visit patreon.com/learnplaythrive
- May 27, 202637 min
When Your Autistic Client Also Has OCD, Depression, Anxiety or Other Co-Occurrences: Affirming, Person-Centered Practices with Matt Lowry, LPP
{{Two Sides of the Spectrum is now Born to Be Free!}} This episode is a sweeping overview of the co-occurring conditions that Autistic people often experience, including OCD, depression, anxiety, ADHD, PDA, and more. Autistic Licensed Psychological Practitioner Matt Lowry helps us take a topic that can feel huge and overwhelming and reduce it to a few core themes that make affirming practice feel clear, grounded, and simple, even when we are supporting clients with more complex profiles. Matt Lowry lives and practices in Kentucky, where he specializes in autism and ADHD evaluations, and Autistic-centered therapy. He is the proud parent of an Autistic child and works to promote an understanding of autism and the Autistic lifestyle. For show notes as well as in-person and livestreamed CE trainings visit learnplaythrive.comFor more episodes visit patreon.com/learnplaythrive
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