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According to B is your go-to podcast for real talk with women who are ditching the rulebook and doing life their way. Hosted by Bokang Lehlokoe, it’s all about the messy middles, quiet wins, and bold moves behind the scenes. We’re not here for highlight reels - we’re here for who you’re becoming. Expect raw convos, big laughs, deep feels, and a reminder that living boldly beats living perfectly, every single time.
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What if becoming the person who gets to live your dream life starts long before the dream actually arrives?Zithobe Macheli has transformed more than one area of her life-from dropping out of university to betting on herself as a content creator, healing her relationship with her skin and body, building her confidence, and ultimately creating a life that once existed only in her imagination.This week, she pulls up a chair at the A2B Café to talk about the inner work behind the outer transformation.We get into self-concept, journalling, shadow work, learning to see yourself differently, taking inspired action and what it really means to become the kind of person capable of building the life you want.Because sometimes the biggest glow-up isn't the life changing around you-it's the person you become along the way.🥂 This episode of According to B is powered by Bernini.✰ TIMESTAMPS✰00:00- Coming up01:46- Intro 04:27- Bokang introduces Zithobe to A2B 05:42- Game: The starter- for the plot16:40- The main: The conversation16:55- Zithobe’s fondest memory that indicated she would become the creative she is today19:29- The significance of the support Zithobe received from her parents 21:28- Zithobe on being the first woman in her bloodline to pursue creativity22:49- Zithobe’s university journey27:13- What happened when Zithobe decided to leave university32:29- Zithobe on reading back her 2020 journals 36:09- How Zithobe closed the gap between where she was vs where she is now38:59- How Zithobe was able to evolve beyond being a beauty creator40:12- The biggest difference between the person who wrote in the journals vs the person living in it41:44- Being the first woman in Zithobe’s lineage to build a 7 figure business43:25- Some of the other work Zithobe does45:31- What Zithobe has had to learn the hard way in business48:12- Zithobe’s relationship with money51:41- Zithobe on what was expected of her when it comes to love56:18- The traditional things vs the non-traditional ones Zithobe believes in59:06- Zithobe’s perspective on whether she wants marriage or not01:00:56- Zithobe’s ideal kind of love01:04:52- What Zithobe hopes future generations will continue to inherit01:06:51- Dessert: Zithobe recieves her Bernini bag 01:07:26- Outro✰ SOCIAL MEDIA ✰Bokang➜ Instagram: @sheisbokang-https://www.instagram.com/sheisbokang ➜ Tik Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@sheisbokang The B Word➜ Instagram: @thebword_za -https://www.instagram.com/thebword_za ➜ Tik Tok: @thebwordza https://www.tiktok.com/@thebword_za Guest➜ Instagram: @zithobemacheli-https://www.instagram.com/zithobemacheli➜Tik Tok: @zithobemacheli-https://www.tiktok.com/@zithobemacheli ✰ BUSINESS INQUIRIES ✰E-mail: hello@thebwordmedia.com ✰ TEAM/CREDITS ✰Producer: Bokang Lehlokoe & Tshegetso Moepi Videography: Shutter ScopePost Production: Thapelo Mogashoa
Whoever convinced women that life peaks in their twenties has some explaining to do. 😭Because if you ask us? The thirties are kind of giving.This week, Nandipha Mqoco pulls up a chair at the A2B Café for a conversation about getting older, getting hotter, getting clearer on who you are and why there is so much more life waiting for women on the other side of 30.We talk about the freedom that comes with knowing yourself better, our changing relationships with our bodies, style, confidence, friendship, career and the pressure women feel to have life “figured out” by a certain age.And because we're still lover girls around here, we also get into love, dating and what romance looks like when you're older, wiser and perhaps a little less willing to entertain nonsense. 😂Think Sex and the City, Girlfriends, Insecure-except this time, we’re the women in our thirties we grew up watching.🥂 This episode of According to B is powered by Bernini.✰ TIMESTAMPS✰01:00- Coming up02:23- Intro 05:08- Bokang introduces Nandipha to A2B 06:10- Game: The starter- for the plot17:50- The main: The conversation18:17- How Nandipha felt on the lead up to 3024:44- What Nandipha thought 30 would look like vs the reality32:27- Nandipha on the importance of living alone40:31- Nandipha’s approach to love in her 30s vs her 20s46:59- Nnadipha’s concerns about millennials and their inability to understand consent48:37- How Nandipha’s decision to date differently has affected who she can date49:50- Nandipha’s celibacy journey56:53- How dating changed for Nandipha changed when sex was off the table01:00:03- Other forms of intimacy that Nandipha enjoys01:04:13- What 20 year old Nandipha would be surprised by01:05:45- What Nandipha would tell 20 year old her about navigating the 20’s01:07:19- Dessert: Nandipha is gifted her Bernini tote bag01:08:03- Outro✰ SOCIAL MEDIA ✰Bokang➜ Instagram: @sheisbokang-https://www.instagram.com/sheisbokang ➜ Tik Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@sheisbokang The B Word➜ Instagram: @thebword_za -https://www.instagram.com/thebword_za ➜ Tik Tok: @thebwordza https://www.tiktok.com/@thebword_za Guest➜ Instagram: @nandipha_mqoco-https://www.instagram.com/nandipha_mqoco-➜Tik Tok:@nandipha_mqoco-https://www.tiktok.com/@nandipha_mqoco ✰ BUSINESS INQUIRIES ✰E-mail: hello@thebwordmedia.com ✰ TEAM/CREDITS ✰Producer: Bokang Lehlokoe & Tshegetso Moepi Videography: Shutter ScopePost Production: Palesa Radebe
What happens when you get everything you worked for… and realise you might not want it anymore?Bonge Gumede spent years building the dream. She left university to bet on herself, poured everything into becoming a full-time fitness creator and eventually built the career she had imagined — a global audience, six-figure earnings, major opportunities and even the chance to live abroad.Then, at what should have felt like the height of it all, she walked away.In this episode, Bonge takes us through the build, the cage and the unbecoming: the relentless work it took to create her career, what achieving her goals revealed about her relationship with productivity and success, and the six-month sabbatical that changed everything.We talk about faith, ambition, burnout, family, fitness, social media, learning how to be still and the role God played in completely redefining Bonge’s understanding of womanhood, worth and what she wants her life to be built around.Sometimes changing your life isn’t about chasing a bigger dream. Sometimes it’s having the courage to question the one you already achieved.🥂 This episode of According to B is powered by Bernini.✰ TIMESTAMPS✰01:00- Coming up01:48- Intro 04:08- Bokang introduces Bonge to A2B 04:42- Game: The starter- for the plot17:50- The main: The conversation18:14- What made Bonge begin her content creation journey21:35- How content creation became a job for Bonge23:59-The sacrifices the Bonge had to make to build her career29:48- The peak and success of Bonge’s career28:01- Bonge’s move to Dubai29:47- The turning point31:53- 2025:The year God humbled Bonge36:13- What it was about the fitness industry and social media that wasn’t aligning41:05- Bonge on stepping back and slowing down45:49- The aspects of Bonge’s life that grewin the slowing down53:51- How Bonge’s relationship with fitness and her body has changed58:33- How Bonge defines success now01:01:58- Younger Bonge vs who Bonge is now01:06:24- Dessert: Bonge is gifted her Bernini tote bag01:07:08- Outro✰ SOCIAL MEDIA ✰Bokang➜ Instagram: @sheisbokang-https://www.instagram.com/sheisbokang ➜ Tik Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@sheisbokang The B Word➜ Instagram: @thebword_za -https://www.instagram.com/thebword_za ➜ Tik Tok: @thebwordza https://www.tiktok.com/@thebword_za ✰ BUSINESS INQUIRIES ✰E-mail: hello@thebwordmedia.com ✰ TEAM/CREDITS ✰Producer: Bokang Lehlokoe & Tshegetso Moepi Videography: Shutter ScopePost Production: Palesa Radebe
What happens when you stop building your life around the milestones you were told you should want and start asking what you actually want instead?Travel creator and digital anthropologist Popi Sibiya has built a life defined by curiosity, adventure and a willingness to take the road less travelled — literally.Over drinks at the A2B Café, Popi and I talk about the choices that have shaped the life she lives today: travel, freedom, home, relationships, marriage, being child-free, taking risks and deciding what “enough” looks like when you’re not following the traditional blueprint.We get into what she was really searching for when she first started travelling, whether constant movement can ever become another comfort zone, the things she's learned about herself from seeing the world, and what it means to build a life that actually feels like your own.Because maybe there isn’t one right way to do womanhood. Maybe the real adventure is figuring out yours.🥂 This episode of According to B is powered by Bernini.✰ TIMESTAMPS✰01:00- Coming up01:18- Intro02:44- Bokang introduces Popi to A2B03:41- Game: The starter- for the plot22:31- The main: The conversation23:14- Who Popi was before the content25:12- Why Popi chose to teach english in China26:20- What prompted Popi to leave China and move back home29:48- The moment Popi realised being a travel creator could be a job33:22- How Popi decided to monetize her content34:50- Popi on comparing her life with other peoples37:20- Popi’s perspective on romantic relationships, marriage and kids48:03- Popi on whether she believes the man she wants exists51:12- Popi on living her dream life51:55- The realities of being a travel creator53:26- How sustainable The Popi Show is right now56:58- Advice for corporate version of Popi57:55- Popi’s message for the woman who doesn’t know what the next looks like59:48- Dessert:Popi is gifted her Bernini tote bag01:01:01-Outro✰ SOCIAL MEDIA ✰Bokang➜ Instagram: @sheisbokang-https://www.instagram.com/sheisbokang ➜ Tik Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@sheisbokang The B Word➜ Instagram: @thebword_za -https://www.instagram.com/thebword_za ➜ Tik Tok: @thebwordza https://www.tiktok.com/@thebword_za GuestPopi➜ Instagram:@popi_sibiya--https://www.instagram.com/popi_sibiya➜TikTok: @popi_sibiya- https://www.tiktok.com/@popi_sibiya ✰ LISTEN ON ✰ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0XnqZ7b...Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...Castbox: https://castbox.fm/channel/id5426930?...✰ BUSINESS INQUIRIES ✰E-mail: hello@thebwordmedia.com ✰ TEAM/CREDITS ✰Producer: Bokang Lehlokoe & Tshegetso Moepi Videography: Shutter ScopePost Production: Palesa Radebe
Shudufhadzo Musida has never been afraid to dream beyond what seems realistic. From entering Miss South Africa when she never considered herself a “pageant girl,” to eventually wearing the crown, pursuing her studies at Columbia University and living out a New York dream she first imagined as a little girl Shudu’s life is proof of just how far a dream can take you.But big dreams can also require big sacrifices.In our first conversation at the A2B Café, Shudu and I talk about keeping a dream alive when your circumstances give you no evidence that it’s possible, refusing to choose between your ambitions, the years of work behind the achievements we celebrate, and the time, relationships and rest that can sometimes be sacrificed along the way.We also get into what happens when you finally find yourself living inside a life your younger self once dreamed about — and have to give yourself permission to dream even bigger.🥂 This episode of According to B is powered by Bernini.✰ TIMESTAMPS✰01:26- Coming up01:27- Intro04:58- Bokang introduces Shudu to A2B06:48- Game: The starter- for the plot19:25- The main: The conversation20:06- Where Shudu’s New York dream started24:36- Shudu on immersing herself into New York28:53- What encouraged Shudu to keep dreaming big31:35- Shudu on her first time applying to Columbia University39:20- The Miss South Africa last minute entry43:49- Shudu on navigating her mental health during Miss SA and her studies50:28- The planned and unplanned dreams Shudu has achieved54:08- The cost of achieving the dream57:26- Shudu’s relationship with rest01:02:29- Shudu’s pockets of joy in the busyness01:10:34- Shudu’s advice to anyone that feels like their big dream is impossible01:15:23- Unconventional desert: Shudu receives her Bernini bag01:16:44- Outro✰ SOCIAL MEDIA ✰Bokang➜ Instagram: @sheisbokang-https://www.instagram.com/sheisbokang ➜ Tik Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@sheisbokang The B Word➜ Instagram: @thebword_za -https://www.instagram.com/thebword_za ➜ Tik Tok: @thebwordza https://www.tiktok.com/@thebword_za GuestShudu➜ Instagram: @shudufhadzomusida--https://www.instagram.com/shudufhadzomusida➜TikTok: @shudumusida- https://www.tiktok.com/@shudumusida✰ LISTEN ON ✰ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0XnqZ7b...Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...Castbox: https://castbox.fm/channel/id5426930?...✰ BUSINESS INQUIRIES ✰E-mail: hello@thebwordmedia.com ✰ TEAM/CREDITS ✰Producer: Bokang Lehlokoe & Tshegetso Moepi Videography: Shutter ScopePost Production: Palesa Radebe
This episode of According To B is in partnership with Bernini - the sparkling spritzer born from real wine.Who are you beyond praise? Beyond approval? Beyond productivity?This conversation is for the woman who has always done what was expected - and is now asking deeper questions. I sit down with Ursula Mariani and together, we explore what it means to outgrow versions of yourself that once kept you safe. From discipline and achievement to faith, conditioning, and authorship, Ursula shares how intellectual curiosity and emotional honesty can coexist - and how real freedom begins when you stop performing and start choosing.Subscribe to The B Word here: https://www.youtube.com/c/TheBWord?su... ✰ MEET OUR CO-HOST ✰UrsulaUrsula Mariani is a lecturer, PHD candidate voice-over artist, and the host of the podcast: The Conversation Capital, where she explores the power of dialogue as currency-in relationships, leadership, and identity. Known for her clarity of thought and grounded presence, Ursula has become a trusted voice in conversations around womanhood, conditioning, faith, and personal authorship.Her work sits at the intersection of intellect and introspection. Whether she’s in a lecture hall, behind a microphone, or leading nuanced discussions online, Ursula is committed to helping women question inherited expectations and consciously choose who they want to become.✰ TIMESTAMPS✰00:00 - Intro03:23 - Meet Ursula05:59 - Game: Toast or Ghost19:51 - Ursula on being a good girl growing up25:20 - The parts of herself Ursula left unexplored as a result of being a good girl27:09 - Dilemma34:11 - Ursula on growing into being independent and self-possessed36:39 - Ursula on honouring parents without living according to their will41:09 - The things Ursula has had to unlearn in the process of shedding 43:10 - The parts of herself that Ursula is only discovering now45:09 - The part of herself that Ursula is excited to step into more 47:52 - What younger Ursula would think of her now50:14 - Ursula receives her Breathe It In box51:16 - Outro✰ SOCIAL MEDIA ✰Bokang➜ Instagram: @sheisbokang- / https://www.instagram.com/sheisbokang ➜ Tik Tok:@sheisbokang- https://www.tiktok.com/@sheisbokang The B Word➜ Instagram: @thebword_za - https://www.instagram.com/thebword_za➜ Tik Tok: @thebwordza- https://www.tiktok.com/@thebword_za GuestUrsula➜ Instagram:<a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbXpGZ3BtbEVnOG9kY0Fpd0oycDJEbXlaazFNUXxBQ3Jtc0traTM1RUktZkNRbTRqUVFhVV9CTzg1Q0Itc1k5ellJZWdsQXdfaWwyT2FqcEstSm9odVBQUWo3Sl9VY2lrVGJFLXN3ZU5LMWZ2a
This episode of According to B is brought to you in partnership with Bernini-the sparkling spritzer born from real wine. What would the younger version of you think of your life today?In this episode, Gaisang Noge and I reflect on growth, dreams, disappointment, patience, and staying true to yourself in an industry and a world that often asks you to become someone else.This conversation is for anyone learning to trust their timing and honour their becoming.Subscribe to The B Word here: https://www.youtube.com/c/TheBWord?su... ✰ MEET OUR CO-HOST ✰GaisangGaisang Noge is a South African actress, media personality, and creative whose work reflects depth, versatility, and authenticity. Known for her powerful performances on screen, she brings emotional nuance and relatability to every role she inhabits- earning her recognition as one of her generation’s compelling talents.Beyond the spotlight, Gaisang’s journey is one of resilience, patience, and self-belief. From navigating rejection to trusting the timing of her dreams, she represents the woman who keeps going-even when the path feels uncertain. Her presence is both playful and grounded, proof that ambition and authenticity can coexist.✰ TIMESTAMPS✰00:00 - Intro02:25 - Meet Gaisang04:03 - Game: Toast or Ghost13:25 - Bokang surprises Gaisang with a 2016 throwback15:34 - Gaisang on losing and finding herself again21:03 - Gaisang on making her dream a reality22:51 - Gaisang’s first experience on set 26:33 - What kept Gaisang going in the waiting27:02 - The lesson God taught Gaisang before opening the doors31:13 - Gaisang on avoiding the pressure to always perform33:42 - The one thing that Gaisang is doing now, for future her 38:05 - Gaisang’s first half marathon 42:24 -Gaisang receives her Breathe It In box 43:22- Outro✰ SOCIAL MEDIA ✰Bokang➜ Instagram: @sheisbokang- / https://www.instagram.com/sheisbokang ➜ Tik Tok:@sheisbokang- https://www.tiktok.com/@sheisbokang The B Word➜ Instagram: @thebword_za - https://www.instagram.com/thebword_za➜ Tik Tok: @thebwordza- https://www.tiktok.com/@thebword_za GuestGaisang➜ Instagram:<a href="h
Dating yourself doesn’t mean you’ve given up on love. It means you’ve decided to show up for your own life with intention. In this episode, lifestyle creator and podcaster Gugulethu Nyatsumba returns to the podcast for a grounded, honest conversation about what “dating yourself” really looks like beyond the quotes.We explore:The difference between being alone and living fullySolo dates, confidence, and emotional independenceHow your relationship with yourself shapes every other relationshipDating yourself while still desiring partnershipIf you’re learning how to enjoy your own company, build standards, and live with presence - this conversation is for you.Subscribe to The B Word here: https://www.youtube.com/c/TheBWord?su... ✰ MEET OUR CO-HOST ✰GugulethuGugulethu Nyatsumba popularly known as Sis G.U is a lifestyle content creator, podcaster, and digital storyteller known for her grounded presence and intentional approach to living. Through her platform, she shares reflections on faith, self-trust, solitude, and what it means to move through life at your own pace-without rushing to perform or impress.Her content resonates because it feels honest, Gugu embodies a quiet confidence rooted in self-awareness and emotional maturity. She represents a generation of women redefining independence- not as isolation, but as security within oneself.Through her work, she invites women to romanticise their own lives, embrace stillness, and trust that becoming is not something to rush.✰ TIMESTAMPS✰00:00 - Intro02:27 - Meet Gugu04:22 - The differences between Gugu in 2023 vs 202607:04 - Game: Toast or Ghost14:15 - What the definition of dating herself is for Gugu18:18 - Relationship check20:07 - Gugu on embodying how she can experience love on her own 22:56 - Gugu's love language to herself 26:25 - Gugu's favourite solo experiences28:53 - Gugu on solo travel35:13 - Gugu on being content single but still desiring partnership37:04 - The impact of self-love on how Gugu approaches dating 41:03 - Gugu on standing in her own way in relationships41:37 - Gugu's advice for anyone who wants to choose themselves45:48- Gugu receives her Breathe It In gift box47:04- Outro✰ SOCIAL MEDIA ✰Bokang➜ Instagram: @sheisbokang- / https://www.instagram.com/sheisbokang ➜ Tik Tok:@sheisbokang- https://www.tiktok.com/@sheisbokang The B Word➜ Instagram: @thebword_za - https://www.instagram.com/thebword_za➜ Tik Tok: @thebwordza-<a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbmF6QWtpOEhYS0FjT2NVTV9PZXR2UmRkREZVQXxBQ3Jtc0ttbUt3aC1Dd1BfckJXY0FHdmJyMEhpaWpBV0lEZ3lFNDBhQUw2YnRXZGdTeHJXM0ZVY1Nua3ZhWUt2b3NwNWt6Zm45a2RyNmVaV0
According to B is your go-to podcast for real talk with women who are ditching the rulebook and doing life their way. Hosted by Bokang Lehlokoe, it’s all about the messy middles, quiet wins, and bold moves behind the scenes. We’re not here for highlight reels - we’re here for who you’re becoming. Expect raw convos, big laughs, deep feels, and a reminder that living boldly beats living perfectly, every single time.
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