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- Yesterday48 min
Tatum Neill- Why Hairdressers Are the Most Powerful Community in the World
atum Neill: Serious Business, Elevate Hair, and Why Hairdressers Can Change the World**He threw a rogue after party before anyone asked him to. That is just how Tatum Neill operates.Recorded live at ABS Chicago with co-host Geno Chapman, Corey closes out the weekend with Tatum Neill, co-creator of Serious Business and founder of Elevate Hair. This one covers the origin stories of both, the current state of AI and what it means for the industry, and a full New Orleans survival guide for anyone heading to Serious Business in January 2027.**What Serious Business Actually Is**Serious Business started as a business conference and evolved into something harder to name... a personal development experience that fills cups you didn't know were empty. Mel Robbins has been there. Brene Brown has been there. But Tatum's advice is to just show up without looking at the lineup because the speakers always end up being exactly what you need. January 16-18, 2027 at the Sanger Theater in New Orleans.**Elevate Hair**It started as a salon jam session. Tatum missed the education lifestyle after years working in New York and started inviting the salon across the street to come hang out. Beer, wine, hair, music. Then he went rogue and threw an after party for Serious Business. Then it grew. Now Elevate is a brand neutral stage show with no talking, no sales, just artists in a full flow state with a DJ running the room. The biggest one drew 1300 people to First Avenue in Minneapolis... the venue where Prince filmed Purple Rain. The tape from Prince's last soundcheck is still on the back wall. Elevate Orlando is May 30th. More cities to follow.**AI and Where It Is Actually Headed**Tatum went to South by Southwest and came back thinking about the printing press and early film. Every disruptive technology looks clunky at first because we use it the way we used the thing before it. The first movies looked like plays. The first recordings were just a band in a room. We are at that same early stage with AI... using it like the old thing instead of discovering what it can actually become. For hairdressers the most immediate practical application is consultations. Show the client what they would look like with the cut or color before you start. In real time. On their face.**The New Orleans Survival Guide**Eat the gumbo at the airport before you leave the terminal. Emeril's is in one wing, John Besh's restaurant in the other. Get that base in before you hit the hotel. Your first drink will be a triple so treat it accordingly. Order a Dong Phuong king cake now because they sell out before January 6th every year. And know that Serious Business lands in the middle of Carnival season so there will be parades that Friday and Saturday night if you stay the full weekend.---Find Tatum at @tatumneill on all platforms. Follow Geno at @genochapman.🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2lLnEgr3UFY7lFDixapkrZ?si=36231da1a5264815🍎 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/your-day-off-hairdustry-a-podcast-about-the-hair-industry/id1327156219📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hairdustry▶️ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@hairdustryThis episode is brought to you by Serious Business. January 16-18, 2027 in New Orleans. seriousbuisness.net
- 1 weeks ago44 min
Bobbi Powell: Beauty School, Survivors, and Giving Back the Right Way
Bobbi Powell: Beauty School, Haven House, and Building Something Nobody Asked ForShe cold emailed a press team, showed up with no connections, and built something the industry didn't know it needed.Recorded live at ABS Chicago with co-host Geno Chapman, Corey sits down with Bobbi Powell (@beautyschoolbobbi) for a conversation that covers beauty school ownership, community service, self-advocacy, and what it actually means to show up for people. Bobbi is co-owner of Tennessee School of Beauty, a fifth generation school opened in 1934, and has been partners with the family for seven years after walking in to do admissions and operating like she already owned it.How She Got HereBobbi grew up near Pittsburgh in a close-knit Italian family and almost became a high school English teacher. After one semester of observations in inner city Akron middle schools she knew it was not the path. She followed her mom to Knoxville, connected with a salon owner tied to Tennessee School of Beauty, and took the admissions job with zero beauty industry experience. She fell in love immediately. Seven years later the fourth generation owner made her a partner.Own the Space You Are InBobbi did not wait for permission to build something at ABS. She emailed the press team cold, showed up with a small crew, and asked if they could have a bigger presence the following year. That became what it is today. Own every space you are in regardless of whose name is on the door. Whether you are behind the chair on commission or running a media operation at a hair show, treat it like yours.Haven HouseBobbi partners with Haven House, an organization that supports girls in foster care who have experienced sex trafficking. Multiple times a year those girls come into the school as clients. Students work on them. Bobbi handpicks which students are in the room because she knows who needs to be there. Every time without fail those students walk out changed. The girls get to be normal teenage girls for a day. The students get a perspective shift that no classroom can manufacture.The Tennessee Beauty Professional Awards and a New NonprofitThe Tennessee Beauty Professional Awards happen August 16th in Knoxville. The first year benefited the Tennessee Suicide Prevention Network with a scholarship in honor of her business partner's son who died by suicide. This year Bobbi is announcing a new nonprofit to fund real product and hands-on training in underfunded public school cosmetology programs. Corey is going to be a judge.Find Bobbi at @beautyschoolbobbi on all platforms. Listen to the Beauty School Bobbi podcast every Monday. Follow Geno at @genochapman.🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2lLnEgr3UFY7lFDixapkrZ?si=36231da1a5264815 🍎 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/your-day-off-hairdustry-a-podcast-about-the-hair-industry/id1327156219 📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hairdustry ▶️ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@hairdustryThis episode is brought to you by Serious Business. January 16-18, 2027 in New Orleans. seriousbuisness.net
- 2 weeks ago59 min
From Dirty Waters to the World Stage- Byrd Mena on Branding, Giving Back, and Going Global
Byrd Mena... From a Basement in Waterbury to Stages Around the WorldByrd Mena (@byrdmena) is one of the most original minds in the hair industry. Venezuelan roots. Connecticut hustle. Third degree black belt. Call of Duty leaderboard legend. And a brand builder who figured out content creation, community, and global reach before most people knew those were even skills.Fair warning... this one was a blast. Venezuelan food debates, Chuck Norris jokes, a Chuck E. Cheese trauma story, and two guys who walked into the podcast couch as strangers and left as best friends. Plus a special cameo from fellow Venezuelan Alejandra Wolff Pickering (@ale_wlff) who crashed the couch, proved her cachapa credentials, and earned her stamp of approval from Byrd himself.Recorded live at the American Beauty Show in Chicago. Hosted by Corey Gray (@hairdustry), co-hosted by Geno Chapman (@genochapman). Part of our live series sponsored by Serious Business (seriousbusiness.net | January 16-18, 2027, New Orleans).The Origin StoryByrd grew up in Waterbury, Connecticut... the dirty waters... with a barber brother, a hairstylist sister, and a best friend with clippers. He started cutting hair at 13 in a basement with an orange extension cord running to the neighbor's outlet. No proper shop. No formal training. Just a kid who wanted in and friends willing to sit in the chair.From Call of Duty to Content CreatorBefore Sharp Fade, before the stages, before the 40 countries... there was a PlayStation 3 and a Call of Duty leaderboard obsession. Byrd taught himself content creation making YouTube gaming videos in 2007... before Google even bought the platform. That same creative muscle became the engine behind everything that followed.Building Sharp FadeIn 2015 Byrd launched Sharp Fade... a barbering media brand inspired by ESPN. He spotlighted independent artists, flew them around the world with no agency fees, and built a platform with millions of followers that changed how the industry thinks about branding. He did it all while staying faceless for two years... pure Banksy energy.Live Fashion Hair and Giving BackA show in the Canary Islands opened his eyes to a whole new level of creative possibility. Today he is a part owner of Live Fashion Hair, doing shows in Brazil, Las Vegas, and Brooklyn with Davines. Off the stage he helped rebuild a barbershop in the favelas of Brazil for a man who lost his daughter to a stray bullet and his shop to fire... surprising him on stage with the keys in front of 5,000 people. He has also collaborated with Disney and Pixar on the film Soul, runs an annual mentorship retreat, and gives free haircuts to the homeless through a mobile barber program.What You'll Learn in This EpisodeHow to build a brand before anyone is watching. Why authenticity closes million dollar deals better than any suit. The dopamine hack Byrd uses to help creatives grow. And the live idea Byrd and Corey cooked up on the couch that might just become the next big thing.Follow Byrd: @byrdmena on Instagram Special cameo: @ale_wlff on Instagram Co-host: @genochapman on Instagram Hosted by: @hairdustry on Instagram Learn more: Sharp Fade | Live Fashion HairSubscribe to Your Day Off wherever you listen. New episodes every week.🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2lLnEgr3UFY7lFDixapkrZ?si=36231da1a5264815 🍎 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/your-day-off-hairdustry-a-podcast-about-the-hair-industry/id1327156219 📺 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@hairdustry 📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hairdustry
- 3 weeks ago1h 4m
Finance for Freedom- Anna Manukyan
What Do Hairdressers Do for Retirement? Anna Manukyan Has the Answer.Over 800 hairdressers answered that question in a viral Facebook post. The responses ranged from "marry someone rich" to "we die with scissors in our hands." Certified financial educator and licensed fiduciary Anna Manukyan is on a mission to rewrite that ending... one beauty professional at a time.Recorded live at the American Beauty Show in Chicago with co-host Geno Chapman (@genochapman), this episode is part of our live series sponsored by Serious Business (seriousbusiness.net | January 16-18, 2027, New Orleans).Anna's StoryAnna Manukyan immigrated to the US as a political refugee at 9 years old. She quickly learned what hustle really means. Fell in love with the beauty industry working at a local salon. Signed herself up for beauty school before she could legally rent a car.Her dad's response: "We brought you to the United States so you can cut hair? How dare you embarrass the family."That contrast... the dream of possibility versus the harsh reality of how the world sees this industry... lit a fire that never went out. She went on to spend 20 years at L'Oreal in education and business development, leading teams of 30 artists, sitting in boardrooms, and working with beauty professionals at every level across the country.The Money Problem Nobody Talks AboutAfter decades in the industry, Anna kept seeing the same thing. Hairdressers working into their 70s. No retirement. No plan. Just scissors and hope. She became a certified financial educator, got her securities license, and became a licensed fiduciary... the only financial designation legally required to act in the client's best interest. Then she founded Beautiful Wealth Academy to make sure no hairdresser ends their career with a GoFundMe. Because knowledge really does equal power.Beautiful Wealth AcademyAnna built Beautiful Wealth Academy to make financial education accessible and digestible for the creative brain. Download the Level Rewards app, find Smart Finance or License to Thrive, enter code THRIVE for a free $250 finance class. Grab the free 7-step money guide at beautifulwealth.com.What You'll Learn in This EpisodeWhy the longer you stay in the industry without a financial plan, the less money you actually make. How inflation is quietly making you pay your clients to sit in your chair. ETFs vs. mutual funds in plain language. Why $27,000 in Starbucks could have been a $116K portfolio. How to open a brokerage account from scratch.Free Resources from AnnaFollow Anna: @amanukian on InstagramLearn more: beautifulwealth.comSubscribe to Your Day Off wherever you listen. New episodes every week.🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2lLnEgr3UFY7lFDixapkrZ?si=36231da1a5264815🍎 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/your-day-off-hairdustry-a-podcast-about-the-hair-industry/id1327156219📺 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@hairdustry📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hairdustry
- 4 weeks ago1h 0m
Alfredo Lewis, Emily Chen- What is Qoat? The Product the Hair Industry Has Been Missing
Alfredo Lewis and Emily Chen: Qoat and the Product the Hair Industry Has Been MissingFive minutes. One bottle. Up to $32,000 in added annual revenue. And a brand new category that has never existed before.Recorded live at ABS Chicago with co-host Geno Chapman, Corey sits down with Alfredo Lewis and Emily Chen to introduce Qoat (pronounced coat)... the first ever professional hair color top coat that seals, protects, and illuminates every color service. Compatible with all color brands. Five minutes at the back bar. Launching in Salon Centric July 1st.What It DoesThe concept came from nail polish. Nobody was putting a top coat on hair color, and the result was the same as skipping it on a manicure: the color fades fast. Alfredo spent two years with a chemist developing a proprietary blend called Hydro Glow Shield. After toning, you apply one to three ounces of Qoat, comb through, process five minutes, rinse. Alfredo's vivid pink client went from calling him two weeks after her service saying her color was already gone... to making it two and a half months. Emily tested swatches thousands of times trying to make them ugly. They refused.The Shareholder ModelAlfredo built Qoat with five artist shareholders, not ambassadors. Each one owns a piece of the company. Emily Chen, Kara Williams, Jacob Conn, Zach Mesquite, and Philip Wolff. Every one of them comes from a different brand family. That was intentional. Qoat is brand agnostic and compatible with every color line on the market.The NumbersApproximately 17 services per bottle. MSRP around $55 to $58. Add-on service charge of $15 to $35 per client. Profit per year between $15,000 and $32,000. For five minutes at the back bar. Launching in Salon Centric and Modern Beauty Canada July 1st.Emily Sold Her SalonEight years in, with her education career pulling her in a different direction, Emily gifted her salon to Megan, a former assistant who had built her book faster than almost anyone Emily had ever seen. She gave the team four months notice, laid out both outcomes clearly, and let Megan step into it. The culture she spent eight years building is intact.Break Room EmilyEmily taught two ways for years without realizing it. Brand-approved stage Emily and break room Emily who made analogies involving Cool Ranch Doritos. When she started bringing break room Emily into her presentations, people retained more and rooms responded better. She has been full break room Emily ever since.Find Alfredo at @alfredo_lewis and Emily at @emchenhair. Follow Geno at @genochapman. Qoat launches in Salon Centric July 1st.🎧 Spotify📸 @hairdustryThis episode is brought to you by Serious Business. January 16-18, 2027 in New Orleans. seriousbuisness.net
- May 11, 202647 min
Depot North America Is Here... and It's Not What You Expect W/ Dayna Gamba & Tyler Kelbert
Tyler Kelbert and Dayna Gamba: Depot North America and What a Real Brand Relationship Looks LikeSome brands want your following. This one wants you.Recorded live at ABS Chicago with co-host Geno Chapman, Corey sits down with barbers Tyler Kelbert and Dayna Gamba, two of the newest additions to the Depot North America team. The conversation covers what drew them to the brand, what the product has been like behind the chair, and why Depot's culture feels different from anything else in the barber space. Tyler tells the story of doing 365 consecutive days of content twice. Dayna talks about using her chair to quietly change lives. Two barbers. Two ways of showing up. Both doing it right.What Is DepotDepot is an established European men's grooming brand covering scalp health, hair, skin, body, and scent. The US launch is building deliberately. Products are organized by numbers: pre-wash in the 100s, washing in the 200s, styling in the 300s. Tyler's go-to is the 304, a strong-hold product that holds all day. Dayna's clients are already asking to cocktail products and wanting more. Distribution is still being worked out but the demand is there.The Culture Is the ProductDepot does not require influencer status. No follower count minimum. They want authentic artists who are good at what they do. Corey and Geno, who spent time with the Depot and Milkshake teams in Ibiza, came away with the same read: family, not a hair brand. Tyler put it plainly... if you're a good barber and you're not a dickhead, there's probably a home for you here.What Dayna Brought to the RoomTyler called out Dayna's positivity as one of his biggest takeaways. She'd flip a negative into something constructive without missing a beat. Contagious. Twenty-three years in the industry, time with Orbe and Davines, and a genuine belief that Depot fills gaps the barber space has been missing. She also runs a charity raffle out of her salon. The prize is free haircuts for a full year. Tickets run $20 to $50 and every dollar goes to a family in need. Quiet generosity. No big following required.Tyler's 365 Days of Content... TwiceFirst run was great for his career and rough on everything else. The second time he came in with a plan, used AI for content ideas, built variety across tutorials, education, humor, and unboxings, and thought about it from the consumer side first. He also brought a carry-on full of outfit changes to the salon every day. His coworkers thought he was out of his mind. Eventually he figured out nobody's watching that closely. It was always about the content.Depot is actively building its US team. Real artists. No ego. Throw your hat in.
- May 4, 20261h 8m
Nick Stenson: Cancer, Clarity, and What It Really Takes to Build a Brand
Nick Stenson: Cancer, Clarity, and What It Really Takes to Build a BrandHe left one of the most powerful jobs in the beauty industry to bet everything on himself. Then he got cancer. This is that story.Recorded live at ABS Chicago with co-host Geno Chapman, Corey sits down with Nick Stenson, celebrity hairdresser and founder of Nick Stenson Beauty, for a conversation that earns every minute of your time. Nick has been a creative director at Matrix, rose to Senior Vice President of Salon Services and Store Operations at Ulta Beauty, and spent seven years quietly building his own hair care line before leaving corporate life entirely. Months after walking away, he was diagnosed with Stage 3 Hodgkin Lymphoma. This episode covers all of it.Seven Years to a BottleNick started developing his product line before he even accepted the job at Ulta. The brand, built around a three-step philosophy covering what you do in the shower, out of the shower, and before you walk out the door, currently sits at 12 SKUs. Every product was designed to be a hero. Nick spent 19 formulations on his hairspray alone. His goal from the start was to create a brand complete enough that he'd never need another one. The line is now available in Ulta, Nordstrom, Macy's, and Amazon, with more retail partnerships coming. He put his name on the bottle because he wanted his reputation attached to everything inside it.Building a Brand in the WildNick breaks down what marketing a hair brand actually looks like from the inside. TikTok rewards hooks and speed. Instagram builds community and brand culture over time. Google runs differently from both. He's learned that most founders pull the plug on a marketing channel too early, before the algorithm has had enough time to respond. Six months is the minimum before you can evaluate whether a platform is working. Each retailer also operates in its own ecosystem, and breaking through to their consumer requires its own strategy layered on top of your own.The DiagnosisNick had been in pain across his chest and back for months. Chiropractors, x-rays, adjustments three times a week, up to 20 Advil a day. He wrote it off as a workout injury. The fatigue he attributed to stress. Then a lump appeared on his collarbone and a doctor friend spotted it at a weekend trip. Four weeks later it had doubled in size. He found out through his patient chart, sitting in a car with that same friend, who started to cry. By Monday he was in a doctor's office. By Thursday he was in surgery. He had cancer in his lymph nodes around his shoulder, vocal cords, chest, armpit, and back. His doctor told him clearly: we are going to cure you. Those five words changed everything.What It ChangedNick describes going public with his diagnosis as a deliberate choice to be a safe place for people who didn't have his network, his doctors, or his support system. He spent hours in bed responding to DMs from strangers going through cancer. He calls that healing. On the other side of treatment, he is calmer, more generous when things go wrong, and quicker to celebrate his team instead of spiral. He also got clear on who belongs in his life. Some people who showed up during the hardest moments were removed not because they did anything wrong in that moment, but because their access to him had already expired. Cancer just made it easier to see.Presence, Meditation, and the Hard ConversationThe episode ends somewhere unexpected. Corey opens up about experiencing suicidal ideation every day of his life until two years ago, and the realization through meditation that it was never really about wanting to die. It was about pressure. Seeing it for what it was made it stop. Nick picks up the thread and talks about learning to separate the hard moments he created in his own head from the ones that are actually real. Both men land in the same place: the world is happening for you, not against you. Doing the hard things now is the only way to earn the easy later.
- Apr 27, 20261h 0m
Ted Gibson & Jason Backe- CONVERGENCE
Ted Gibson and Jason Backe Live at ABS ChicagoSome conversations remind you why you got into this industry in the first place. This is one of them.Recorded live at ABS Chicago with co-host Geno Chapman, Corey sits down with Ted Gibson and Jason Backe for an hour covering three decades of hustle, heartbreak, reinvention, and beauty from the inside out.The Roads That Led HereNeither Ted nor Jason took a straight path in. Jason was a raver kid in Minneapolis who walked into beauty school and for the first time felt seen by a teacher. Ted was a Texas athlete who walked into a salon called Zan and Friends, saw a room full of stylish people in starched Wranglers, and decided that was the life. What followed was barber school, a cross-country move seeking fame, a detour to Atlanta to answer phones while switching his license, and a room with Confederate flags on the wall. He stayed anyway. The sacrifices nobody sees are always the foundation of the success they do.What Fame Actually CostsSaying yes to Angelina Jolie's hair for Tomb Raider changed everything. Vogue. Marie Claire. A PR firm that told them to drop the name Fame and call it Ted Gibson. A Fifth Avenue salon. A DC licensing deal tied to the Real Housewives. A move to LA where they gambled everything and learned more than they earned. Three years in Palm Springs that have brought more inspiration than anywhere else they've lived. Success is not linear. It never was.The Client Relationship... and When It EndsTed's rule: treat every client like it's the first time you've seen her. She is a different person. Jason goes deeper, describing 20 years of New York clients who didn't care what it cost, and how COVID ended it overnight. He had to create a new category... client friends. Losing them felt like grief. It changed how he understood his work entirely.Ted Gibson Beauty Wellness ScienceAfter Ted's mom was diagnosed with dementia, they dove into brain health and found lion's mane mushroom. They felt it. They kept going. A scientist in Oregon with 30 years studying fungi and algae helped them build a superfood powder: lion's mane, chaga, reishi, tremella, and blue-green algae in a coconut milk base with vanilla and coffee. Tremella is shown to be 100 times more effective than hyaluronic acid at moisture retention. Mix it into anything. A book is coming.Convergence: Beauty Wellness Science SummitMay 2-3 in Palm Springs. Professionals and consumers in the same room to collaborate, not compete. Mainstage education in cut, color, and dressing. Panel discussions including Guts, Brains and Beauty and Stars, Shrooms and Psychedelics. Breakout rooms. A cocktail party. The Beauty in Motion Evening Performance headlined by Ted and his artistic team. Day two is all professional education with business coaching from Steve Gomez. Blue Zones leads a purpose workshop for the Palm Springs community. Hotel reservations at the Marriott via the link in bio.@tedgibson... @jasonbacke... @genochapmanSponsored by Serious Business. January 16-18, 2027 in New Orleans. Tickets at seriousbuisness.net
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