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- Today43 min
Own Your MSP Marketing (EP 1008)
Referrals are slowing down, phones are too quiet, and every vendor swears they have the magic funnel that will fix your pipeline—for a nice monthly fee, of course. Meanwhile, most MSP websites are still glorified digital business cards, and when a real prospect does reach out, that inquiry can sit in an inbox long enough for them to sign with another provider before you even know they exist. In this episode, I sit down with Nate Freedman from Tech Pro Marketing and MSP Sites to talk about what actually works for sub–5 million dollar MSPs that want predictable growth without handing their future over to yet another “black box” agency. We get into modern SEO (or “search everywhere optimization”), why key phrases beat single keywords, and how MSPs can realistically show up when prospects search terms like “IT services company near me” instead of chasing vanity terms they’ll never rank for. Nate explains how top MSPs think about Google Ads, lifetime value and customer acquisition cost, and why private-equity-backed rollups are willing to pay 80 dollars a click while smaller providers need different, more human strategies to compete. We also talk about directories, Google Business Profiles, inbound call handling, and why speed to lead is still one of the most underrated growth levers in the MSP space. Chapters 00:36 SEO for MSP Growth 06:26 Search Everywhere Strategy 10:46 Reverse Engineering Search Results 15:33 Winning With Marketing Math 19:08 Human-to-Human Marketing 24:03 Owning Your Marketing 27:57 MSP Sites Boot Camp 30:12 Speed to Lead Matters 33:01 Turning Projects Into Recurring Revenue 40:56 Facebook Reels Momentum === Guest: Nate Freedman Tech Pro Marketing / MSP Sites – https://www.techpromarketing.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/natefreedman === Shout-outs Paco Lebron: https://www.linkedin.com/in/pacolebron Karl Palachuk: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karlpalachuk/ Mike Bakaic: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-bakaic/ Sean Inman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/seaninman/ === Companies / Vendors / Products / Books MSP Sites – https://mspsites.com Clutch (Clutch.co) – https://clutch.co UpCity – https://upcity.com CloudTango – https://www.cloudtango.net Thumbtack – https://www.thumbtack.com Gravity Forms – https://www.gravityforms.com TechCon Unplugged – https://www.techconunplugged.com === SPONSORS: Livestream Partner, ThreatLocker: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/threatlocker Technology Partner, NetAlly: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/netally/ Technology Partner: Bvoip: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/bvoip Travel Partner: TruGrid: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/trugrid Digital Partner, Designer Ready: http://itbusinesspodcast.com/designerready === SHOW MUSIC: Item Title: Upbeat & Fun Sports Rock Logo Item URL: https://elements.envato.com/upbeat-fun-sports-rock-logo-CSR3UET Author Username: AlexanderRufire Item License Code: 7X9F52DNML === Connect with Uncle Marv🌐 Website: <a href="https://www.itbusinesspod
- Today19 min
World Record Mindset For Tech (EP 1007)
I caught Melanie Curtis at ACES 2026 in Minneapolis after her keynote, and this conversation goes way beyond “what does skydiving have to do with tech?” Melanie walks through how she went from traditional corporate track to professional skydiver, coach, and full‑time keynote speaker, and how that journey reshaped how she thinks about fear, risk, and reaching the edges of our potential. We dig into what it really takes to prepare for a world record jump: years of skill‑building, coaching, repetition, systems, and mental discipline so you can perform when it counts. Along the way, we map those same ideas directly back to MSP life—landing clients, handling outages, leading teams, dealing with rejection, and learning to detach from outcomes so you can show up as a better leader for your staff and your customers. Chapters 00:25 Opening at ACES Conference 02:26 Skydiving Meets Business 03:44 From Overachiever to Diver 06:27 The First Jump Changes Everything 07:08 Speaking Career Takes Off 10:53 Cat Comedy and Serious Goals 12:24 Audience Questions and Relevance 13:36 World Record Preparation Secrets 18:08 Where to Find Melanie === Guest: Melanie Curtis – Keynote Speaker & Coach Website: https://melaniecurtis.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/melaniecurtis11 === Shout-outs Justin Esgar: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justinesgar ACES Conference: https://acesconf.com === SPONSORS: Livestream Partner, ThreatLocker: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/threatlocker Technology Partner, NetAlly: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/netally/ Technology Partner: Bvoip: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/bvoip Travel Partner: TruGrid: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/trugrid Digital Partner, Designer Ready: http://itbusinesspodcast.com/designerready === SHOW MUSIC: Item Title: Upbeat & Fun Sports Rock Logo Item URL: https://elements.envato.com/upbeat-fun-sports-rock-logo-CSR3UET Author Username: AlexanderRufire Item License Code: 7X9F52DNML === Connect with Uncle Marv🌐 Website: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/🎙 Host: Marvin Bee🛒 Uncle Marv’s Amazon Store (gear & tools I recommend): https://amzn.to/3EiyKoZ☕ Support the show: https://ko-fi.com/itbusinesspodcastIf you found value in this episode, share it with another MSP, IT provider, or tech entrepreneur. Your support helps keep practical, no-nonsense IT business conversations coming every week.
- Yesterday18 min
Live at ACES with Brian Best (EP 1006)
Recorded on‑site at the Elliott Park Hotel during ACES 2026, this conversation kicks off with a quick behind‑the‑scenes look at the venue, the vibe, and why this Apple‑centric event cares more about P&L than power users. I walk through how ACES is structured as a business‑first conference for Apple IT providers, covering topics like pricing, marketing, HR, scaling, and work‑life balance, with zero tool pitches from the stage and everything bundled into a focused two‑day experience. Then I catch up with Brian Best from Best Mac, who has attended and spoken at all twelve ACES events, and we get into the real talk about running a Mac‑focused MSP in a Windows‑dominated world. Brian shares how the Apple side of the channel is mostly small to mid‑sized MSPs, how his own M&A experience with LogicNow and SolarWinds reshaped his business, and why co‑managed Apple support is a powerful play for Windows‑first MSPs serving mixed environments. Chapters 00:17 ACES Conference Intro 02:01 What ACES Is 04:37 Conference Venue Tour 06:50 Reconnecting With Brian Best 08:22 Why ACES Matters 12:00 SolarWinds Deal Backstory 14:54 Windows And Mac Blend 15:54 Getting Mac Help === Guest: Brian Best Company: BestMacs – IT support for Apple-powered businesses Website: https://bestmacs.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brian-j-best === Shout-outs Justin Escar: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justinesgar Eric Anthony: https://www.linkedin.com/in/esanthony/ === Companies / Vendors / Products / Books ACES Conference: https://acesconf.com/ All Things MSP (podcast / community): https://www.facebook.com/allthingsmsp The Brit (pub in Minneapolis – likely “Brit’s Pub”): https://www.britspub.com Elliott Park Hotel: https://www.elliottparkhotel.com Macworld Expo: https://www.macworld.com N-able: https://www.n-able.com === SPONSORS: Livestream Partner, ThreatLocker: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/threatlocker Technology Partner, NetAlly: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/netally/ Technology Partner: Bvoip: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/bvoip Travel Partner: TruGrid: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/trugrid Digital Partner, Designer Ready: http://itbusinesspodcast.com/designerready === SHOW MUSIC: Item Title: Upbeat & Fun Sports Rock Logo Item URL: https://elements.envato.com/upbeat-fun-sports-rock-logo-CSR3UET Author Username: AlexanderRufire Item License Code: 7X9F52DNML === Connect with Uncle Marv🌐 Website: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/🎙 Host: Marvin Bee🛒 Uncle Marv’s Amazon Store (gear & tools I recommend): https://amzn.to/3EiyKoZ☕ Support the show: https://ko-fi.com/itbusinesspodcastIf you found value in this episode, share it with another MSP, IT provider, or tech entrepreneur. Your support helps keep practical, no-nonsense IT business conversations coming every week.
- 1 weeks ago45 min
MSP Branding In An AI World (EP 1005)
Most of us put huge effort into our tech stack and very little into how our team actually shows up in front of clients. In this conversation with MSP owner, branding coach, and author Lisa Shorr, we talk about why a “solid stack” is not enough if your clients experience you as slow, unresponsive, or robotic. We dig into real stories from the field, including a law firm that fired their IT provider for being “not responsive,” and how simple shifts in communication, presence, and expectations can completely change that story. We also tackle the AI rush head‑on: how to decide whether a new automation actually strengthens or weakens client relationships, where QBRs and client touchpoints fit into a more automated world, and why empathy, adaptability, and critical thinking are still your unfair advantage. If you’ve ever felt the tension between “being efficient” and “being human,” this one will hit home. Chapters 00:32 Introduction to Money, Marketing, and Growth 02:56 The Importance of Human Connection 03:23 Navigating AI and Automation 05:51 Workshops and Trends in MSPs 08:37 Balancing AI and Client Interaction 11:09 Building a Framework for AI Implementation 18:09 The Role of Empathy in Client Relationships 20:55 Success Stories and Client Experiences 23:55 Internal Branding and Image 30:30 Consistency in Branding 35:14 Challenges Faced by MSPs Today 41:42 Unleashing Your Brand with Shore Success === Guest: Lisa Shorr Company: Shorr Success – https://shorrsuccess.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisashorr Your B.R.A.N.D. Unleashed (book): https://amzn.to/4tqZXOi === Companies / Vendors / Products / Books Pax8: https://www.pax8.com Claude (Anthropic): https://www.anthropic.com Microsoft Copilot: https://www.microsoft.com/copilot Gamma: https://gamma.app The Managed Intelligence Provider Playbook (Pax8 report): https://www.pax8nebula.com/m/47ae41fea05803a4/original/The-Managed-Intelligence-Provider-Playbook.pdf === SPONSORS: Livestream Partner, ThreatLocker: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/threatlocker Technology Partner, NetAlly: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/netally/ Technology Partner: Bvoip: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/bvoip Travel Partner: TruGrid: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/trugrid Digital Partner, Designer Ready: http://itbusinesspodcast.com/designerready === SHOW MUSIC: Item Title: Upbeat & Fun Sports Rock Logo Item URL: https://elements.envato.com/upbeat-fun-sports-rock-logo-CSR3UET Author Username: AlexanderRufire Item License Code: 7X9F52DNML === Connect with Uncle Marv🌐 Website: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/🎙 Host: Marvin Bee🛒 Uncle Marv’s Amazon Store (gear & tools I recommend): https://amzn.to/3EiyKoZ☕ Support the show: https://ko-fi.com/itbusinesspodcastIf you found value in this episode, share it with another MSP, IT provider, or tech entrepreneur. Your support helps keep practical, no-nonsense IT business conversations coming every week.
- 1 weeks ago47 min
MSP Billing, Margins And Growth (EP 1004)
I brought Colin back on because he’s one of the few people in our space who’s actually lived it all: tech, MSP owner, and now multiple vendor exits. We walk through how the “simple” stuff like billing reconciliation quietly drains profit from MSPs, with the average million‑dollar shop leaving a shocking amount of money on the table because they aren’t tracking seats, renewals, or vendor price hikes closely enough. Colin breaks down how Gradient’s Managed Billing Reconciliation works in practice and why treating billing like MDR for your finances can free up weeks of internal time while actually improving client trust instead of hurting it. From there, we shift into marketing, which is still the number one challenge I hear from MSPs that want to grow but hate content creation. Colin explains how MSP Studio started as free, canned marketing kits and evolved into MSP Studio Plus: an AI‑driven platform that creates fully branded, non‑cookie‑cutter social content and even runs in an “autopilot” mode so you just review and approve. We talk honestly about agency pricing, the rise of AI, why smaller MSPs can’t always justify $1,500–$2,500 per month on social media retainers, and what “good enough” looks like if you’re under $1M and trying to move up without losing your mind. Chapters 01:10 Introduction to MSP Insights 02:12 Billing Challenges for MSPs 05:50 Price Adjustments and Customer Communication 10:37 Revenue Opportunities in Software Migration 11:19 Introduction to Managed Billing Reconciliation (MBR) 15:04 Overview of Gradient's Pricing Structure 16:30 Marketing Strategies for MSPs 19:54 Launch of MSP Studio Plus 22:52 AI-Driven Content Creation 25:26 The Importance of Marketing Visibility 35:29 Common Misconceptions Among MSPs 40:28 Navigating MSP Growth Strategies 45:19 Closing Thoughts and Future Prospects === GUEST: Colin Knox, Gradient MSP Website: https://www.meetgradient.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/realityknox === COMPANIES / VENDORS / PRODUCTS / BOOKS Passportal: https://www.passportal.com N-able: https://www.n-able.com Kaseya: https://www.kaseya.com ConnectWise: https://www.connectwise.com MSPCFO https://www.mspcfo.com === SPONSORS: Livestream Partner, ThreatLocker: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/threatlocker Technology Partner, NetAlly: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/netally/ Technology Partner: Bvoip: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/bvoip Travel Partner: TruGrid: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/trugrid Digital Partner, Designer Ready: http://itbusinesspodcast.com/designerready === SHOW MUSIC: Item Title: Upbeat & Fun Sports Rock Logo Item URL: https://elements.envato.com/upbeat-fun-sports-rock-logo-CSR3UET Author Username: AlexanderRufire Item License Code: 7X9F52DNML === Connect with Uncle Marv🌐 Website: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/🎙 Host: Marvin Bee🛒 Uncle Marv’s Amazon Store (gear & tools I recommend): https://amzn.to/3EiyKoZ☕ Support the show: https://ko-fi.com/itbusinesspodcastIf you found value in this episode, share it with another MSP, IT provider, or tech entrepreneur. Your support helps keep practical, no-nonsense IT business conversations coming every week.
- 1 weeks ago41 min
MSP Marketing for Real Growth (EP 1003)
Laura walks me through her “Know, Grow, Scale” framework and how most MSPs are trying to jump straight to lead gen while their business is still “root bound” at the foundation level. We talk about diagnostics, digital health, differentiation, and why your website, offers, and content have to actually say something meaningful before you ever expect your marketing to convert. We also get into mindset: the difference between a 500K MSP and a 5M+ MSP, and what it really means to be “growth ready” as an owner. Laura shares some spicy takes on overhyped Google Ads, what “AI searchable” really means for MSPs, why you should talk about pricing, and how to move forward if you’ve already been burned by a marketing agency. Chapters 00:00 MSP Marketing for Real Growth: Month kickoff 01:00 Why I brought Laura Johns on to talk real MSP growth 02:30 Laura’s journey from telecom and MSPs to The Business Growers 05:20 What actually makes this MSP marketing approach different 07:50 The “health score” and the Know–Grow–Scale framework 11:20 Why “set it and forget it” marketing fails most MSPs 13:20 Cold calling myths and the 3–5% ready‑to‑buy reality 14:35 Who this works for: from 500K MSPs to 25M providers 17:10 2x vs 10x mindset: how serious are you about growth? 19:40 Spicy take: why Google Ads won’t save a broken strategy 22:30 What being “AI searchable” really looks like for MSPs 23:50 Talking price, filtering bad leads, and better-fit clients 26:30 Burned by a previous marketing agency? How to reset 29:10 Competition, geography, and why differentiation wins 36:00 Doing what works in your market vs staying stuck 38:00 Laura’s final advice: get a real diagnostic before you scale Guest: Laura Johns, The Business Growers Website – https://thebusinessgrowers.com LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/laurapickardjohns Get More MSP Leads (podcast): https://open.spotify.com/show/1Awr19JiyZz3UBJxXlPNg7 Shout-outs Lydia Walker,: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lydiaawalker Companies / Vendors / Products / Books Get More MSP Leads (podcast): https://open.spotify.com/show/1Awr19JiyZz3UBJxXlPNg7 Endless Customers (Marcus Sheridan): https://amzn.to/42WJbvG They Ask, You Answer (Marcus Sheridan): https://amzn.to/4dw7ExZ 10X Is Easier Than 2X (Dan Sullivan): https://amzn.to/42ixXBA === SPONSORS: Livestream Partner, ThreatLocker: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/threatlocker Technology Partner, NetAlly: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/netally/ Technology Partner: Bvoip: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/bvoip Travel Partner: TruGrid: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/trugrid Digital Partner, Designer Ready: http://itbusinesspodcast.com/designerready === SHOW MUSIC: Item Title: Upbeat & Fun Sports Rock Logo Item URL: https://elements.envato.com/upbeat-fun-sports-rock-logo-CSR3UET Author Username: AlexanderRufire Item License Code: 7X9F52DNML === Connect with Uncle Marv🌐 Website: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/🎙 Host: Marvin Bee🛒 Uncle Marv’s Amazon Store (gear & tools I recommend): https://amzn.to/3EiyKoZ☕ Support the show: https://ko-fi.com/itbusinesspodcastIf you found value in this episode, share it wi
- 1 weeks ago53 min
Money, Marketing And MSP Growth 2026 (EP 1002)
Chapters 01:08 Welcome to the IT Business Podcast 05:47 Cloud Hosting Exploration 19:41 Upcoming Conferences and Events 20:53 Acronis Event Announcement 23:43 Rant Warning: Caution Ahead 27:47 Family and Business Challenges 33:44 Vendor Relationships and Fairness 39:40 Navigating Vendor Changes 43:40 Industry Dynamics and Perspectives 52:16 Conclusion and Future Content This one starts with a straightforward need: move a single line‑of‑business app into the cloud without spinning up a quarter‑rack, buying hardware, and babysitting it in a data center. I share how I landed on VULTR for this client, what the initial sales experience looked like, how fast I was able to spin up a Windows Server, and why the simplicity of their model was a breath of fresh air compared to my previous AWS journey. I also touch on Nerdio as a possible front‑end to AWS for those who want the power without the pain. From there, we zoom out into the bigger picture: evaluating SLIDE against Datto, why I sent the SLIDE appliance back even though the tech worked, and what aggressive sales, disappearing commissions, and shifting partner programs are doing to MSPs who are trying to run a stable business on a budget. I talk candidly about losing 150 endpoints, keeping the doors open, supporting family, and still planning for 30 years in business while vendors like AppRiver quietly change how they pay partners. We wrap with what Money Marketing and Growth Month will cover, a preview of the ACES Mac conference, and a few Florida Man stories to keep it all human. Acronis Event The Pivotal Point of IT: https://go.acronis.com/itbusinesspodcast Florida Man Florida Man Arrested for Plucking the Chicken at Chick-Fil-A Drive Thru: https://linkly.link/2iQiu Florida Man Arrested at Walmart for Banana Trick: https://linkly.link/2iQio Secret Service Agent Arrested on Charges of Indecent Exposure: https://linkly.link/2iQiy Shout-outs Tom Wyant: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thomaswyant/ Chris Flusche: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chris-flusche-b391037b/ Dave Scott, Scott Growth Strategies: https://www.linkedin.com/in/davescott Tim Fitzpatrick, Rialto Marketing: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/timpfitzpatrick Lisa Shorr, Shorr Success: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisashorr/ Colin Knox, Gradient: https://www.linkedin.com/in/realityknox/ Laura Johns, The Business Growers: https://www.linkedin.com/in/laurapickardjohns/ Nate Friedman, Tech Pro Marketing: https://www.linkedin.com/in/natefreedman/ Chris Wiser: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cwiser/ Robin Robins: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robinrobins/ Justin Esgar: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justinesgar/ ACES Conference: https://acesconf.com/ Companies / Vendors / Products Mentioned MSP Unplugged Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/mspunplugged Synology: https://www.synology.com Nerdio: https://getnerdio.com VULTR: https://www.vultr.com</a
- 2 weeks ago1h 1m
Turn Buildings Into ISP Profit (EP 1001)
Most of us have helped clients “call the carrier” or work with a master agent to bring in a circuit, grab a small commission, and move on. Brian flips that script and shows how MSPs can own the relationship by bringing a bulk fiber circuit into the building, carving it up, and billing each tenant under our own brand—while still leveraging master agents and existing carrier relationships. Instead of letting AT&T, Comcast, or Verizon lock in a 10-year deal and toss a small one-time check to the landlord, this model puts the monthly recurring revenue in the MSP’s column and turns the property owner into a real partner. Chapters 01:06 Welcome to the IT Business Podcast 02:37 Embracing Mistakes in IT 14:34 Sponsored by ThreatLocker 15:41 Introducing Brian Higgins 17:13 From MSP to ISP 20:19 Understanding the Business Model 24:47 The Value of Fiber Connections 47:27 Tenant Agreements and Cash Flow 51:42 The Journey to ISP Services 58:34 Closing Thoughts and Florida Man Story Guest: Brian Higgins, Aditum Connect Website: https://aditumconnect.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianwhiggins/ Acronis Event The Pivotal Point of IT: https://go.acronis.com/itbusinesspodcast Florida Man Man, 68, known for portraying Santa accused of trying to meet 13-year-old for sex: sheriff: https://linkly.link/2i8Qq Companies / Vendors / Products Mentioned Acronis: https://www.acronis.com Microsoft 365 (M365): https://www.microsoft.com/microsoft-365 Barracuda: https://www.barracuda.com MX Toolbox: https://mxtoolbox.com intoDNS: https://intodns.com Mail Tester: https://www.mail-tester.com Ubiquiti: https://ui.com SonicWall: https://www.sonicwall.com === SPONSORS: Livestream Partner, ThreatLocker: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/threatlocker Technology Partner, NetAlly: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/netally/ Technology Partner: Bvoip: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/bvoip Travel Partner: TruGrid: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/trugrid Digital Partner, Designer Ready: http://itbusinesspodcast.com/designerready === SHOW MUSIC: Item Title: Upbeat & Fun Sports Rock Logo Item URL: https://elements.envato.com/upbeat-fun-sports-rock-logo-CSR3UET Author Username: AlexanderRufire Item License Code: 7X9F52DNML === Connect with Uncle Marv🌐 Website: https://www.itbusinesspodcast.com/🎙 Host: Marvin Bee🛒 Uncle Marv’s Amazon Store (gear & tools I recommend): https://amzn.to/3EiyKoZ☕ Support the show: https://ko-fi.com/itbusinesspodcastIf you found value in this episode, share it with another MSP, IT provider, or tech entrepreneur. Your support helps keep practical, no-nonsense IT business conversations coming every week.
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