Tom Nelson

Samuel Furfari: “The Truth About the COPs” | Tom Nelson Pod #390

April 28, 2026·59 min
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Former European Commission energy official Samuel Furfari recounts COPs from the 1992 UN climate convention through recent meetings, arguing the process became propaganda-heavy, expensive, and ineffective as global CO2 emissions rose 66% since 1992. He cites Glasgow as a turning point when China and India blocked anti-coal language, and notes recent COPs hosted by fossil-fuel producers and growing pushback from Africa and others seeking development. He criticizes “technology transfer,” NGO influence (especially in the EU), and anti-nuclear sentiment, discusses synthetic fuels as too costly until oil/gas decline, and describes shifts at the IEA and oil firms like BP back toward oil and gas.00:00 Meet Samuel Furfari01:02 COP Zero Origins02:38 Berlin COP and Merkel04:14 Glasgow Turning Point06:11 Fossil Fuel Host COPs09:39 Brazil COP Contradictions10:46 Money and Degrowth Agenda12:49 Nuclear and Synthetic Fuels15:03 Cuckoo Takes the Nest17:19 COP Spectacle and Emissions20:07 Africa and Tech Transfer22:44 Papua New Guinea Shifts24:09 Polar Bear Messaging Fades25:40 IEA From Oil to Renewables29:03 US Pressures IEA30:05 Oil Chokepoints Reality31:08 Inside IEA Ideology32:00 BP Retreats to Oil35:21 Subsidy Driven Renewables35:57 NGOs Power Shift38:04 UN Leadership After Guterres40:32 Africa Needs Electrification43:06 Leaders Doubt Climate Agenda46:57 China Emissions Outsourcing49:31 COP Hosting Politics53:39 COP15 Failure and WrapThe Truth About the COPs: 30 years of illusions: https://a.co/d/05AuqsJEhttps://x.com/FurfariSamuele=========Slides, summaries, references, and transcripts of my podcasts: https://tomn.substack.com/p/podcast-summariesMy Linktree: https://linktr.ee/tomanelson1

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