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Steve Sullivan joins me for a lively conversation about podcasting, tutor videos, and digital A&P teaching. We explore how he humanizes online learning, why students crave multiple approaches, and what he's learned after 23 years of teaching. From LMS-independent course design to global podcast reach, Steve shares practical strategies and inspiring stories that can help any A&P instructor evolve their teaching. 0:00:00 | Introduction 0:00:49 | This Episode 0:02:28 | Becoming Steve Sullivan 0:06:41 | Your Teaching Voice* 0:07:30 | Why Start a Podcast? 0:14:03 | Farewell to TAPP ed* 0:15:45 | Growing a Podcast & Growing Through It 0:19:56 | Authors Alert * 0:21:05 | Digital Teaching That Actually Helps 0:30:59 | When Our Tools Disappear* 0:32:48 | A&P Tools That Fit Any Textbook 0:48:36 | Collaboration Audit* 0:49:14 | What 23 Years of A&P Reveals 1:01:10 | Innovation Check * 1:01:44 | Staying Connected * Breaks ★ If you cannot see or activate the audio player, go to: theAPprofessor.org/podcast-episode-156.html ❓ Please take the anonymous survey: theAPprofessor.org/survey ☝️ Questions & Feedback: 1-833-LION-DEN (1-833-546-6336) 📰 Get the once-or-twice-weekly TAPP Science & Education Updates theAPprofessor.org/updates "Technology will never replace great teachers, but technology in the hands of great teachers can be transformational." (George Couros) This Episode 1.5 minutes Kevin introduces Steve Sullivan, our special guest for this episode. Becoming Steve Sullivan 4 minutes Steve introduces how he became an A&P instructor, beginning with chiropractic training, tutoring peers, and eventually stepping into the classroom. His path reflects that mix many of us recognize—clinical experience, a spark for teaching, and an opportunity that suddenly opens. He shares what drew him in, what kept him hooked, and why A&P has become the center of his professional life. Your Teaching Voice * 1 minute A brief moment to reflect on the tone and personality we bring into our teaching—whether in class or in audio—and how a small shift in our teaching voice can make learning feel warmer and more inviting. Why Start a Podcast? 6.5 minutes Steve explains how his long-standing love of podcasts led him to create Anatomy & Physiology: Bit by Bit. Starting with simple tools meant for his own students, the show soon reached thousands around the world. Steve talks about early inspirations, favorite podcasts, and why audio gives students a flexible, motivating way to tackle hard content while living their daily lives. Farewell to TAPP ed * 1.5 minutes A short update announcing the official wrap-up of the TAPP ed micro-credentials, why the program is ending, and how listeners can still access their badges through 2025. Growing a Podcast & Growing Through It 4 minutes Here Steve talks about the surprising reach of his show, the long break he took, and how student feedback pulled him back. We explore the challenges of maintaining a creative project during COVID and how stepping away can renew energy. His reflections highl
Murray Jensen joins Kevin Patton to explore dual enrollment in anatomy & physiology. From guided inquiry to the power of teacher communities, this conversation reveals why messy classrooms often yield the best results. 00:00 | Introduction 00:48 | Murray Jensen, HAPS President's Medal Laureate 02:27 | What Is Dual Enrollment, Anyway? 11:44 | Two-Word Check-In* 12:53 | Guided Inquiry, Not Guided Napping 25:51 | Concept Echo* 26:37 | No, Not Nightly Recorded Lectures 31:09 | Rigor Reality Check* 32:11 | Rigor, Range, & Real Talk 39:25 | Respect Reframe* 40:02 | Why It Matters: Heart, Head, & High School 47:55 | Slide Diet* 49:06 | Money, Mission, & a Playbook for Best Practices 54:04 | Staying Connected * Breaks ★ If you cannot see or activate the audio player, go to: theAPprofessor.org/podcast-episode-155.html ❓ Please take the anonymous survey: theAPprofessor.org/survey ☝️ Questions & Feedback: 1-833-LION-DEN (1-833-546-6336) ✔️ Follow The A&P Professor on Twitter, Facebook, Blogger, Substack, or Instagram! @theAPprofessor 📰 Get the once-or-twice-weekly TAPP Science & Education Updates theAPprofessor.org/updates "The classroom remains the most radical space of possibility in the academy." (bell hooks) Murray Jensen, HAPS President's Medal Laureate 1.5 minutes Kevin introduces his guest, Murray Jensen, a Professor of Biology Teaching and Learning at the University of Minnesota. He highlights Murray's research focus on teaching and learning in human anatomy and physiology, his emphasis on POGIL and cooperative learning, and his many awards, including the 2024 HAPS President's Medal. Kevin also notes Murray's warm reputation as a mentor and colleague, framing the conversation as both professional and deeply personal. What is Dual Enrollment, Anyway? 9 minutes Murray explains how dual enrollment works in Minnesota through the College in the Schools program, which currently involves 28 high schools and 1,100 students. He emphasizes the importance of professional development and the community of practice that keeps teachers connected, supported, and inspired. Kevin shares his own experiences with dual enrollment, reflecting on how it shaped his career and outlook as an educator. Guided Inquiry, Not Guided Napping 13 minutes This segment digs into pedagogy. Murray describes his approach to selecting teachers, focusing on passion and spark, and how he encourages them to adopt guided inquiry and cooperative group learning. He shares stories about the challenges of letting go of control in the classroom, and how productive messiness often leads to deeper learning. Kevin adds his own examples, reinforcing that guided inquiry transforms classrooms into vibrant, memorable learning spaces. No, Not Nightly Recorded Lectures 4.5 minutes Murray makes the case against online-only dual enrollment mod
Kevin Patton tackles one of A&P's slimiest subjects: mucus. In this playful but powerful episode, he reveals ten (or eleven) reasons mucus deserves more attention in our teaching. From immunity to fertility, mucus does it all. 00:00 | Introduction 00:45 | Mucus & Mucous 04:27 | Virtual HAPS Conference * 05:41 | Mucus: Body-Wide Protector 10:13 | Gross Episodes * 11:15 | Mucus in Motion 15:46 | Kerry Hull Honored * 16:28 | Mucus & the Human Story 20:42 | Running Concept Lists 21:11 | Mucus is Vital 26:05 | Staying Connected * Breaks ★ If you cannot see or activate the audio player, go to: theAPprofessor.org/podcast-episode-154.html ❓ Please take the anonymous survey: theAPprofessor.org/survey ☝️ Questions & Feedback: 1-833-LION-DEN (1-833-546-6336) ✔️ Follow The A&P Professor on Twitter, Facebook, Blogger, Substack, or Instagram! @theAPprofessor 📰 Get the once-or-twice-weekly TAPP Science & Education Updates theAPprofessor.org/updates "If life hands you a painful irritant, cover it in an iridescent mucus‑like substance until it becomes a pearl." (Sarah Rosenshine) Mucus & Mucous 3.5 minutes What's the difference between mucus and mucous? One is a noun, the other an adjective—but that subtle difference trips up a lot of students. This short segment makes a strong case for calling out that distinction early and often in your A&P course. Virtual HAPS Conference 1.0 minute Need new ideas for your A&P course? This brief segment promotes the upcoming virtual HAPS conference and Kevin's own flipped-session presentation—packed with audio strategies for teaching. Mucus: Body-Wide Protector 4.5 minutes Reasons: Mechanical Barrier Immunological First Responder Homeostasis Helper Mucus forms a body-wide protective network—physically trapping invaders, launching immune responses with secretory IgA and enzymes, and maintaining pH and hydration across exposed epithelial surfaces. Gross Episodes 1.0 minute This short segment encourages instructors to lean into the gross-out moments. Why? Because they're often where the best learning happens. And yes, that includes mucus, poop, and pee. Mucus in Motion 4.5 minutes Reasons: 4. Lubrication 5. Trap-and-Transport System 6. Environmental Sentinel This segment gets things moving—literally. Mucus lubricates tissues, rides the mucociliary escalator to clear debris from the lungs, and even signals health status through color and consistency changes. Kerry Hull Honored 0.5 minutes Kevin pauses to celebrate A&P educator Kerry Hull, who received the HAPS President's Medal. It's a quick but heartfelt recognition of excellen
"It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future," said Yogi Berra, but that's never stopped me before! In this annual episode, we'll revisit last year's educational forecasts, explore what's popped (and what's fizzled), and check the tea leaves (and little gray cells) once again. With help from colleague Jerry Anzalone—and some cheeky assistance from AI—we'll bravely map out what's next for anatomy and physiology education, all seasoned with empathy, wit, and a cautionary look at history's lessons. Buckle up: predicting the future is a bumpy—but fascinating—ride! 0:00 | Introduction 0:42 | Season 7 Debrief 7:32 | Virtual Library of TAPP Episodes* 10:15 | How Did We Do Last Year? 27:29 | Manuel the AI Assistant* 33:45 | Jerry Calls in to the Podcast Hotline 34:55 | Jerry's Look at the Coming Year 42:05 | Badges and LinkedIn* 44:31 | Kevin's Look at the Coming Year 52:39 | Staying Connected *Breaks ★ If you cannot see or activate the audio player, go to: theAPprofessor.org/podcast-episode-153.html 🏅 Apply for your credential (badge/certificate) for listening to this episode: theAPprofessor.org/podcast-episode-153.html/#badge ⭐⭐⭐⭐ Please rate & review this podcast so that others can decide whether to give it a try: RateThisPodcast.com/theAPprofessor ❓ Please take the anonymous survey: theAPprofessor.org/survey ☝️ Questions & Feedback: 1-833-LION-DEN (1-833-546-6336) ✔️ Follow The A&P Professor on Twitter, Facebook, Blogger, Substack, Tumblr, or Instagram! @theAPprofessor 📰 Get the once-or-twice-weekly TAPP Science & Education Updates theAPprofessor.org/updates It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future. (Yogi Berra) Season 7 Debrief 7 minutes Looking back at Season 7, I'm amazed (and slightly relieved) how each carefully spaced episode became a hidden gem—proving quality really does beat quantity. Time to unpack what we learned before moving forward. Virtual Library of TAPP Episodes 2.5 minutes Brain break time—stretch those muscles, maybe shake out your fascia, and mentally recharge. Learn a bit about the huge collection of content in the TAPP podcast library—and how to conveniently access it. When we're back, we'll face the music on last year's forecasts, evaluate our hits and misses, and share some fascinating analysis that even surprised me.. How Did We Do Last Year? 17 minutes Were last year's predictions spot-on, or just a near miss? With some helpful (and slightly intimidating) AI analysis, I'll honestly assess where we succeeded, stumbled, or soared—spoiler alert: the AI was more generous than I would've been. Manuel the AI Assistant 6.5 minutes Another quick breather to recover from my yearly dose of humility. Hear about Kevin's new AI assistant to help you when you visit The A&P Professor website. His name is Manuel and he's based on a semi-fictional character I've used for decades in my courses, now living a new life as my website host and troubleshooter. Up next, we welcome Jerry Anzalone's thoughtful predictions for the year ahead. Jerry always offers plenty to think about—get ready for some
Episode 152 centers on a lively conversation between Kevin and Dr. Kate Oland Galligan as they trace her path from a curious undergrad to a passionate fascia educator and clinician. The duo challenges old perceptions of fascia, recounting stories from early lab experiences where fascia was simply "ripped out," and contrasting them with new insights on its dynamic, interconnected nature. They reveal how subtle fascial restrictions can cause significant clinical symptoms—linking pelvic imbalances to jaw pain—and explore the emerging field of mind-body connections in fascial therapy. 0:00:00 | Introduction 0:00:55 | Introducing Kate Introducing Fascia 0:17:06 | Fascia Mini Lesson * 0:20:00 | Rip That Fascia Out! 0:37:14 | Get Ready for Annual Debriefing 0:39:00 | The Hip Bone is Connected to the Jaw Bone 1:03:08 | We're on Substack! * 1:06:13 | Mind-Body Connections 1:21:45 | Staying Connected * Breaks ★ If you cannot see or activate the audio player, go to: theAPprofessor.org/podcast-episode-152.html 🏅 Apply for your credential (badge/certificate) for listening to this episode: theAPprofessor.org/podcast-episode-152.html/#badge ⭐⭐⭐⭐ Please rate & review this podcast so that others can decide whether to give it a try: RateThisPodcast.com/theAPprofessor ❓ Please take the anonymous survey: theAPprofessor.org/survey ☝️ Questions & Feedback: 1-833-LION-DEN (1-833-546-6336) ✔️ Follow The A&P Professor on Twitter, Facebook, Blogger, Substack, Tumblr, or Instagram! @theAPprofessor 📰 Get the once-or-twice-weekly TAPP Science & Education Updates theAPprofessor.org/updates Understanding fascia requires abandoning the traditional anatomical view of separate structures and embracing a model of interconnected, living tissues. (Jean-Claude Guimberteau) Introducing Kate Introducing Fascia 16 minutes In this segment, Kevin reconnects with Dr. Kate Oland Galligan, a former student who has since become a passionate fascia educator and clinician. They reminisce about their time studying physiology together, sharing a nostalgic moment about the infamous Krebs cycle. Kate shares her professional journey from graduate school to clinical practice, detailing how she discovered her deep interest in fascia. As she explains, her dual role as both an instructor and practitioner has given her unique insights into why fascia deserves more attention in undergraduate education. Their conversation sets the foundation for an in-depth exploration of fascia's overlooked importance in both teaching and clinical applications. Fascia Mini Lesson 3 minutes In this short break, Kevin introduces lionden.com, a website he created to offer students supplemental resources for learning A&P. He highlights the value of his "mini lessons," which provide quick, digestible overviews of complex topics like fascia. These digital outlines help students reinforce their understanding beyond textbooks, offering interactive elements and structured learning aids. He encourages listeners to explore the s
In Episode 151 of The A&P Professor podcast, host Kevin Patton is joined by Jennifer Stokes, Rachel Hopp, and Abbey Breckling to discuss the Anatomy and Physiology Student Accommodations Handbook. This handbook released by the Human Anatomy and Physiology Society (HAPS), provides instructors with evidence-based suggestions and best practices for making A&P labs and classrooms more inclusive and accessible for all students. Developed by a HAPS subcommittee, the handbook offers guidance on accommodating students with a wide range of needs, from physical limitations to visual or hearing impairments. The goal is to help instructors identify meaningful alternatives to standard lab protocols that promote student success. The handbook is organized by common accommodation requests and includes sections on universal design principles, making accommodations for temporary conditions, and incorporating tactile and visual aids. The HAPS committee plans to regularly update the handbook as new strategies and technologies emerge. 0:00:00 | Introduction 0:00:48 | How It Started 0:19:33 | Blue Sky's From Now On * 0:20:38 | You Don't Know You Need It Until You Do 0:32:57 | Brain Break * 0:35:36 | Opportunities for Learning 0:47:33 | Show Business * 0:51:03 | Exploring the Handbook 1:02:44 | Staying Connected * Breaks ★ If you cannot see or activate the audio player, go to: theAPprofessor.org/podcast-episode-151.html 🏅 Apply for your credential (badge/certificate) for listening to this episode: theAPprofessor.org/podcast-episode-151.html/#badge ⭐⭐⭐⭐ Please rate & review this podcast so that others can decide whether to give it a try: RateThisPodcast.com/theAPprofessor ❓ Please take the anonymous survey: theAPprofessor.org/survey ☝️ Questions & Feedback: 1-833-LION-DEN (1-833-546-6336) ✔️ Follow The A&P Professor on Twitter, Facebook, Blogger, Substack, Tumblr, or Instagram! @theAPprofessor 📰 Get the once-or-twice-weekly TAPP Science & Education Updates theAPprofessor.org/updates Inclusion is not bringing people into what already exists, it is making a new space, a better space for everyone. (Rachel Olivero) How It Started 18.5 minutes Discover how the Human Anatomy & Physiology Society is transforming student inclusion with its new A&P Student Accommodations Handbook! Host Kevin Patton chats with experts Jennifer Stokes, Rachel Hopp, and Abbey Breckling about creating equitable lab experiences, the power of universal design, and why this groundbreaking resource is a must for educators. Tune in to hear the inspiring journey behind this 62-page guide and how it's reshaping A&P education. Contributing subcommittee members: Heather Armbruster, Kathy Burleson, Jim Clark, Patricia Clark, Molli Crenshaw, Liz Dement, Jennifer Ellsworth, Youlonda FitzGerald, Sarah Greene, Barbara Heard, Cheryl Hill, Elizabeth Hogdson Shearer, Jenna Jarvis, Gracie King, Jennifer Rogers, Angela Stearns, J.P. Swigart, Diane Tice, Margaret Weck <
In Episode 150 of The A&P Professor podcast, host Kevin Patton speaks with intellectual property attorney Brenda Ulrich about copyright law and image use in education. They discuss how educators often mistakenly assume they have rights to use textbook images and the complexities of permissions that expire. Brenda highlights the differences in legal standards for physical versus online teaching and emphasizes the importance of understanding licensing agreements and fair use. By the end, listeners gain valuable insights into legally and ethically incorporating multimedia into their anatomy & physiology courses. 0:00:21 | Host: Kevin Patton 0:00:47 | Introducing Brenda 0:03:49 | You Need a License 0:26:12 | Staying Up To Date 0:27:15 | Put Yourself in Their Shoes 0:41:55 | Do You Write? 0:43:54 | I need a handout 1:00:19 | Finding Media 1:02:00 | Can I Put My PowerPoint on YouTube? 1:12:43 | Staying Connected ★ If you cannot see or activate the audio player, go to: theAPprofessor.org/podcast-episode-150.html 🏅 Apply for your credential (badge/certificate) for listening to this episode: theAPprofessor.org/podcast-episode-150.html/#badge ⭐⭐⭐⭐ Please rate & review this podcast so that others can decide whether to give it a try: RateThisPodcast.com/theAPprofessor ❓ Please take the anonymous survey: theAPprofessor.org/survey ☝️ Questions & Feedback: 1-833-LION-DEN (1-833-546-6336) ✔️ Follow The A&P Professor on Twitter, Facebook, Blogger, Substack, Tumblr, or Instagram! @theAPprofessor 📰 Get the once-or-twice-weekly TAPP Science & Education Updates theAPprofessor.org/updates If you have integrity, nothing else matters. If you don't have integrity, nothing else matters. (Alan K. Simpson) Introducing Brenda 3 minutes Host Kevin Patton introduces guest Brenda Ulrich. You Need a License 22.5 minutes In this discussion, Kevin and Brenda address common questions about using textbook images in teaching, focusing on the legalities and fair use of copyrighted materials. Brenda explains that when using images from textbooks, the license agreement with the publisher governs permissible usage. She emphasizes the importance of reviewing license agreements carefully, even for optional or non-adopted materials. Additionally, Brenda highlights the distinction between classroom use and broader sharing, such as online, and advises seeking permissions or using resources like libraries to ensure proper licensing. Staying Up To Date 1 minute Taking a brief break, Kevin reminds listeners about his occasionally regular Substack newsletter, The A&P Professor Science & Education Updates. Put Yourself in Their Shoes 14.5 minutes In this conversation, Kevin raises a scenario about reusing images from a previously adopted textbook in his new course materials. Brenda explains that continuing to use s
In episode 149 of The A&P Professor podcast, host Kevin Patton chats with Greg Crowther and Ben Wiggins about their work with exams in the anatomy and physiology (A&P) course. They discuss the importance of exams in assessing student learning and the need for exams to be more connected to course objectives. They also mention the challenges of designing exams that are fair and inclusive for all students. Crowther and Wiggins are conducting a survey on A&P exams and encourage listeners to participate to contribute to the understanding of exam practices in the A&P community. The survey can be accessed at tinyurl.com/stemexamsurvey. 0:00:00 | Introduction 0:00:48 | Introducing Ben & Greg 0:04:17 | The Most Important Thing 0:22:32 | Murray Jensen, HAPS Hero 0:23:46 | Our Motto: Be Prepared 0:41:18 | What's on TAPP at The Corner Pub 0:42:45 | The Next Big Leap: What Is It? 1:00:50 | Staying Connected ★ If you cannot see or activate the audio player, go to: theAPprofessor.org/podcast-episode-149.html 🏅 Apply for your credential (badge/certificate) for listening to this episode: theAPprofessor.org/podcast-episode-149.html/#badge ⭐⭐⭐⭐ Please rate & review this podcast so that others can decide whether to give it a try: RateThisPodcast.com/theAPprofessor ❓ Please take the anonymous survey: theAPprofessor.org/survey ☝️ Questions & Feedback: 1-833-LION-DEN (1-833-546-6336) ✔️ Follow The A&P Professor on Twitter, Facebook, Blogger, Substack, Tumblr, or Instagram! @theAPprofessor 📰 Get the once-or-twice-weekly TAPP Science & Education Updates theAPprofessor.org/updates The more we study the more we discover our ignorance. (Percy Bysshe Shelley) Introducing Ben & Greg 3 minutes Host Kevin Patton introduces guests Greg Crowther and Ben Wiggins. The Most Important Thing in a Course 18 minutes In this segment, Kevin Patton chats with Greg Crowther and Ben Wiggins, two educators passionate about improving exam practices in higher education. They explain their goal of making exams more equitable and less stressful for students and instructors. Kevin notes that Greg and Ben approached him to promote a survey about exam practices, which aims to gather insights from educators. Greg highlights his development of Test Question Templates (TQTs) to create clearer links between learning outcomes and assessment methods. Ben introduces the concept of public exams, which aim to reduce student anxiety by clearly defining the structure of exams in advance. Both educators emphasize the importance of rethinking traditional exam practices to create a fairer, more effective educational system. Murray Jensen, HAPS Hero 1 minute In this segment, Kevin announces that his friend, Murray Jensen, received the prestigious HAPS President's Medal at the annual Human Anatomy and Physiology Society (HAPS) conference. This award honors Murray's extensive mentoring and support of A&P faculty globally. Known for his warm and cheerful personality, Murray is praised for his significant
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