Spirit Gym with Paul Chek

412 — Forget Little Green Men: Consider the Sentient Theory of UFOs/UAPs With Michael Jawer

August 25, 2026·1h 58m
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When people ask for your opinions about UFOs, are the little green men from The X-Files the first things that pop in your head? Michael Jawer, author of the upcoming book What UFOs Really Are, believes we should be less focused on aliens flying in the sky and directing our attention on our inner selves and downward to living things anchored on the ground like plants, trees and fungi. Join Paul and Michael on a wide-ranging conversation that could make you look at reality in a brand-new ...

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