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Michelle and Colleen reunite for a wide-ranging season closer: Claude/Fable maxing anxiety, Colleen's very opinionated meal planning app, using Claude in the actual kitchen, Geocodio updates (Laracon US, ice cream truck, two open positions), and Colleen's big news. Plus: Matthias's coding agent Yak, the Yakkity Yak connection, secret RevOps plans, and an honest conversation about deliberate growth vs. quality of life.
Colleen is stuck in a bubble rut.
Colleen shipped the Geocodio CLI (with a Claude Code agent skill!) and Michele had a nightmare about Figma. That's kind of the vibe this week. We also talk about what it's like building AI tools, when Claude decides to stop working, and which AI tools we reach for day to day. Plus, Michele's organizing a Larabelles event at Laracon US to help more women and non-binary folks feel welcome at tech conferences, and Colleen has some strong opinions about what actually works. Also discussed: Ghosts (BBC version), Ted Lasso, and going to the gym. You know, our normal weird stuff.
We get into the messy reality of putting guardrails around AI tooling across a team: shared skills repos, documenting design decisions, and why Claude still needs to be managed like a very smart intern. We swap stories about AI taking over every conversation (yes, even bachelorette parties in Austin), debate whether junior devs should learn without AI first, and Colleen talks about hiring a sales coach who teaches her exactly what she teaches others. Plus: why we're so bullish on in-person events right now, and Michele talks about the why they waited 8 years to hire anyone, and why you can't separate feelings from good decision-making.
Michele and Colleen are back on the mics! We talked about our recent lives, burnout recovery, AI tooling, and the evolving landscape of content creation and marketing automation. Oh, and Colleen lets the power guy in halfway through.
After two years off-air, Michele and Colleen finally sit down together in front of the mics.Links:SaaS Marketing GymTinySeed Tales with Colleen are being released every Thursday on Startups for the Rest of Us!
Michele chats with Kevin Griffin about how she sees side projects not only as a way to earn extra money but as insurance policies against losing your job or other unexpected life events. Subscribe to Multithreaded Income!
Michele chats with Jesse J. Anderson, aka ADHD Jesse, about finding out one has ADHD as an adult, entrepreneurship as people with ADHD, parenting an ADHD child, and more. Get Jesse's book "Extra Focus: The Quick-Start Guide to Adult ADHD" and join his newsletter: https://adhdjesse.com/+ Recommended book on parenting kids with ADHD: ADD Superparenting
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