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by Ben Murray
Ben Murray brings you actionable SaaS metrics lessons that he has learned through years of being in the SaaS CFO trenches. Whether you are new to SaaS or a SaaS veteran, learn the latest SaaS and AI metrics, finance, and accounting tactics that drive financial transparency and improved decision-making.Ben’s SaaS metrics blog consistently rates a 70+ NPS, and his templates have been downloaded over 100,000 times. There is always something to learn about SaaS and AI metrics.
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- 3 days ago3 min
How Detailed Does Your SaaS Customer Cube (MRR Schedule) Need to Be for Due Diligence?
If a buyer or investor asked you to slice your MRR schedule by customer size, industry, and region tomorrow, could you do it? In episode #392, Ben Murray tackles how detailed your customer cube really needs to be in due diligence. Your anonymized revenue by customer by month is table stakes in any fundraise or exit. But once you have hundreds of enterprise customers or thousands of smaller accounts, buyers almost always ask for more, and if you can't produce it quickly, the delay can derail your whole process. Why a single revenue-by-customer-by-month schedule is rarely enough once your customer base reaches meaningful scale The cuts diligence teams ask for: pricing plan, product line, and firmographics like customer size, employee count, geography, and vertical Why you should enrich your customer base now, the same way you enrich sales prospects in your CRM, before a buyer asks How inconsistent invoicing, discounts, and credit notes quietly corrupt your MRR schedule, even when your data structure is sound What a banker confirmed about the level of detail buyers expect from SaaS companies heading into a raise or exit Tune in before your next fundraise or exit conversation, and treat your MRR schedule like gold. Resources Mentioned SaaS Metrics Bootcamp: https://www.thesaasacademy.com/offers/rJhZ6VdM/checkout SoftwareMetrics.ai: https://softwaremetrics.ai/
- 3 weeks ago5 min
7 SaaS Deal Killers That Cut Your Valuation or Derail an Exit Process
Is something in your SaaS financial profile about to kill your exit? In episode #391, Ben Murray breaks down the deal killers and valuation deducts that buyers look for in an exit process. Due diligence is all about de-risking for the acquirer, and any leap of faith on your data means a lower valuation or no deal at all. If you're a SaaS founder or CFO thinking about an acquisition, knowing these red flags before a buyer finds them is the difference between a premium multiple and a walked-away deal. Understand why customer concentration (one customer at 25% of revenue, or several at 20%) is one of the biggest valuation reducers, and how to calculate it from your MRR schedule today. See how unlimited usage pricing caps expansion revenue, and why mature product lines need other ways to grow within the existing customer base. Learn what AI defensibility means to buyers now building their own checklists, including per-seat pricing risk when agents replace users and why pricing is shifting toward API and usage models. Know why AI training data rights belong in your MSA alongside data privacy and security, especially for agentic or outcome-based products. Find out why many buyers apply a hard gross revenue retention threshold (such as 90% GRR), and how weak gross margin and a low Rule of 40 can stall a deal. Tune in to find out what buyers will flag first, and fix it before your exit process starts. Resources Mentioned Exit readiness live webinar: https://www.thesaasacademy.com/pl/2148860580 Exit readiness prep: https://www.thesaascfo.com/saas-exit-readiness-score/
- Oct 7, 20263 min
How to Benchmark Your SaaS Business Using ARR Bands, ACV Bands, and Quartiles
Are you benchmarking your SaaS business against a median that doesn't apply to you? In episode #390, Ben Murray breaks down how to benchmark SaaS metrics the right way. Calculating accurate ARR, churn, and CAC payback every month is hard enough, but a number without context won't help you in a fundraise, due diligence, or exit. If you're benchmarking against the aggregate SaaS population, you may be making decisions on data that has nothing to do with your business. Understand why aggregate SaaS benchmarks, like a population-wide median GRR, can mislead you and why Ben calls them dangerous to your health Learn when to benchmark by ACV band (go-to-market metrics like CAC payback and retention) versus ARR band (OpEx profile, R&D spend, and growth patterns) See why a $5K ACV product and a $50K ACV product should never be held to the same CAC payback or retention expectations Know what to look for in a benchmark report: P25, median, and P75 quartiles, so you can see how close you are to top-quartile SaaS performance Get access to the Ultimate Guide to SaaS Metrics Benchmarks, plus a markdown file you can load into your favorite LLM to benchmark every metric in the Five Pillar SaaS Metrics Framework Tune in to learn how to benchmark like the best SaaS companies do, and walk into your next raise or exit knowing exactly where you stand. Resources Mentioned Ultimate Guide to SaaS Metrics Benchmarks: https://www.thesaascfo.com/saas-metrics-benchmarks/
- Sep 26, 20264 min
What Public SaaS Comps Reveal About Earning a Premium Valuation Multiple
Only 9% of public software companies trade above 10x revenue — do you know which metrics separate them from the 68% stuck below 5x? In episode #389, Ben Murray breaks down what public comps reveal about how premium SaaS valuations are actually created. You can't value a private SaaS business straight off public multiples, but the correlations between metrics and enterprise value tell you exactly what buyers reward — and if you're a founder or CFO eyeing an exit, these are the numbers that will decide whether you land the index median or the premium multiple. The real distribution of public software multiples — 68% below 5x revenue, 23% at 5–10x, and just 9% above 10x — and what it takes to reach the cream of the crop. How net revenue retention maps to valuation: NRR below 100% earns a 3.1x EV-to-revenue multiple, the index median sits at 5.7x, and companies above 120% NRR command 9.3x. Why retention sits at the top of the valuation pyramid and drives premium multiples in bear markets and bull markets alike. Why two companies hitting the same Rule of 40 get different valuations — and why 30% growth + 10% EBITDA beats 30% EBITDA + 10% growth. How to pressure-test your own exit readiness: if you can't confidently enter your metrics into a valuation calculator, your finance data foundation isn't ready for due diligence. Tune in to see where your SaaS would land on the valuation curve — before a buyer runs the numbers for you. Resources Mentioned Ben's SaaS Exit Readiness blog post (four pillars + valuation framework): Contact Ben for help on preparing for an exit: https://www.thesaascfo.com/contact/
- Sep 24, 20265 min
Founders, Are You Exit Ready?
Founders, if a buyer asked for your metrics tomorrow, could your data prove your financial performance or would holes in it kill the deal? In episode #388, Ben Murray breaks down the metrics acquirers use to underwrite your SaaS business — and why so many exits fail before they start. Due diligence is about de-risking the acquisition, and buyers with deep bench strength will pour through your data looking for weaknesses. If you can't control the financial narrative with accurate, defensible metrics, they'll write it for you — and your valuation will pay the price. The four metric pillars buyers scrutinize in due diligence — retention quality, growth, capital efficiency, and margin architecture — and why retention is still king. The GRR threshold many private equity firms treat as a hard floor (hint: it's 90%) and why the gap between GRR and NRR matters for every recurring revenue stream. Why two companies with the same Rule of 40 score get very different valuations — and which composition earns the premium. The capital efficiency metrics on the exam — burn multiple, CAC payback, ARR per FTE — and how go-to-market efficiency changes how much capital a buyer must invest post-acquisition. Why AI-native margins are rotating back to 70–80% software expectations, and how a correctly structured SaaS P&L lets you explain your margin by revenue stream. The minimum runway Ben recommends for exit prep — 6 months of data foundation work — so you hand buyers numbers you're confident in. Tune in before your next investor conversation — because if you're eyeing an exit in the next year or two, the data prep starts now. Resources Mentioned Ben's SaaS Exit Readiness blog post: https://www.thesaascfo.com/saas-exit-readiness-score/ Contact Ben for exit-ready services: https://www.thesaascfo.com/contact/
- Sep 16, 20263 min
Your Dev Team's AI Bills Are Hitting the Wrong Line on Your P&L
Is your dev team's AI spend buried in the wrong part of your P&L — quietly distorting your gross margin and making your AI ROI impossible to measure? In episode #387, Ben Murray tackles one of the most pressing accounting questions hitting SaaS CFOs and controllers right now: how to properly classify AI development costs across your chart of accounts. With dev teams racking up daily charges from multiple AI providers, getting these expense codes wrong doesn't just create accounting noise — it misrepresents your gross margin, obscures your true AI economics, and leaves you unable to answer board questions about AI ROI. The right GL structure makes all the difference. The single most important question to answer first: is the AI cost production-facing (customer-serving inference) or internal engineering use — because the answer determines whether it hits COGS or OpEx, and your gross margin depends on getting this right. A full breakdown of the five AI cost categories SaaS companies are facing today — production inference, dev/testing inference, model training and fine-tuning, GPU compute for production serving, and vector database infrastructure — and exactly where each one belongs on the P&L. Why model training and fine-tuning costs may need to be capitalized rather than expensed, just like other qualifying software development costs under existing accounting guidance. Why internal AI tool spend (Copilot, ChatGPT, Claude, etc.) needs its own dedicated GL account — separate from internal-use software — so you can actually measure efficiency gains and answer the AI ROI question when the board asks. Why this isn't optional housekeeping: as AI costs grow, the difference between properly coded and miscoded AI expenses will show up directly in your gross margin and in how investors read your unit economics. Tune in to get the GL coding framework SaaS CFOs are building now — before AI expenses get too big to untangle. Resources Mentioned Ben's AI COGS blog post (detailed GL coding guidance): https://www.thesaascfo.com/what-should-be-included-in-ai-cogs/
- Aug 27, 20265 min
Why AI-Powered SaaS Dashboards Are Making ERP Reporting Obsolete
Is your ERP dashboard actually built on data that matters — or is it just a chart of accounts dressed up to look useful? In episode #386, Ben Murray breaks down why traditional ERP dashboards are losing ground to AI-generated, prompt-built SaaS reporting and what that means for CFOs and finance leaders right now. If your team is still relying on static dashboards anchored to your general ledger, you're missing three out of four key SaaS data sources before you even start the analysis. The gap between what ERP dashboards can show and what modern AI-native metrics engines can produce is widening fast and the CFOs who close that gap first will be the ones driving the board conversations. Why ERP dashboards are fundamentally limited to chart-of-accounts data — and the three additional SaaS data sources (HRIS, bookings, and customer/revenue data) that actually drive metrics like CAC payback, LTV to CAC, NRR, and Rule of 40. How Ben vibe-coded a full SaaS metrics dashboard in minutes using Claude — covering ARR trajectory, EBITDA margin, gross margin, revenue per FTE, and cash balance — and why a prompt-built report on a deterministic engine beats any canned dashboard. Why controlling the period of measurement matters: the example of setting CAC payback on a six-month sales cycle basis — something a standard ERP dashboard simply can't do. Where AI actually belongs in the FP&A process: not at the beginning, but at the end — writing board narratives, flagging dormant customers ripe for expansion via a RevIntel engine, and generating insights that traditional FP&A could never surface. Why agent-friendly APIs matter: how Saster's API grading tool surfaces whether your SaaS stack is actually exposing the data AI needs to take action — not just technically having an API. Tune in to understand exactly where your ERP dashboard ends and where a closed-loop, AI-powered metrics engine takes over — before your next board meeting. Resources Mentioned Ben's LinkedIn post (vibe-coded SaaS metrics report): https://www.linkedin.com/posts/benrmurray_saas-activity-7498039803582689280-7Ckt?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop&rcm=ACoAAAOOEO8Bf5aRLyU0jjrGXvPD2odJNDer6KU Ben's deterministic SaaS metrics engine: https://softwaremetrics.ai Ben's Five Pillar SaaS Metrics Framework: https://www.thesaasacademy.com/saas-metrics-implementation-sprint-sept-2026
- Aug 22, 20265 min
How AI Is Writing 84-Data-Point Board Reports — And Why CFOs Can Trust Them
What if AI could produce a better board memo than any CFO — and you could trust every data point in it? In episode #385, Ben Murray breaks down how he is using AI to generate complete 5-page financial board reports, and more importantly, why the outputs are reliable. This isn't AI hype — it's a working FP&A process Ben is running today inside his fractional CFO practice. If you're still manually assembling dashboards, PDFs, and narrative summaries before every board meeting, this episode reframes what's actually possible right now. Why a deterministic metrics engine — not AI — is the non-negotiable foundation that makes AI-written board reports trustworthy (and how Ben built one backed by 35 pages of documentation) The exact structure of a SaaS financial board report: executive overview, metrics vs. benchmarks, ARR growth, customer retention, GTM efficiency, financial capacity, data anomalies, and top priorities — all generated by AI How Ben identified 84 unique data points in a single AI-written board memo using ChatGPT — and why that number changes how you think about QA The MCP connection to SoftwareMetrics.ai that makes this a repeatable monthly process — and how Replit is now building it as a native app feature What's coming in October: Ben's SaaS Metric Sprint, a live walkthrough of building the data foundation, calculating metrics, and connecting MCP so you can run this for your own company Tune in to see how Ben is turning month-end close into a board-ready narrative in minutes — and how you can build the same process for your SaaS company. Resources Mentioned Ben's app: https://softwaremetrics.ai/ SaaS Metric Sprint (October 6th): https://www.thesaasacademy.com/saas-metrics-implementation-sprint-sept-2026
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Ben Murray brings you actionable SaaS metrics lessons that he has learned through years of being in the SaaS CFO trenches. Whether you are new to SaaS or a SaaS veteran, learn the latest SaaS and AI metrics, finance, and accounting tactics that drive financial transparency and improved decision-making.Ben’s SaaS metrics blog consistently rates a 70+ NPS, and his templates have been downloaded over 100,000 times. There is always something to learn about SaaS and AI metrics.
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