Future of HR

“Chase the Butterflies and Other Unwritten Rules of a Successful HR Career” Allan Church & Janine Waclawski, Co-Founders and Managing Partners, Maestro Consulting LLC

September 8, 2026·1h 4m
Episode Description from the Publisher

How can you “chase the butterflies” and take the stretch assignment that scares you?Why do the best HR leaders learn to “porpoise” and flex between strategy and execution?My guest on this episode is Allan Church & Janine Waclawski, Co-Founders and Managing Partners, Maestro Consulting LLCDuring our conversation Allan, Janine, and I discuss: Why you should never say no to a job you haven’t been offered. How “meeting the client where they are” is the foundation of every HR relationship. What it means to “porpoise” flexing between strategy and execution. How “chasing the butterflies” unlocks your biggest growth. How you can learn from every boss, even the ones you don’t like.Connecting with Allan Church & Janine WaclawskiConnect with Allan Church & Janine Waclawski on LinkedInEpisode Sponsor: Next-Gen HR Accelerator - Learn more about this best-in-class leadership development program for next-gen HR leadersHR Leader’s Blueprint - 18 pages of real-world advice from 100+ HR thought leaders. Simple, actionable, and proven strategies to advance your career.Succession Planning Playbook: In this focused 1-page resource, I cut through the noise to give you the vital elements that define what “great” succession planning looks like.

Podzilla Summary coming soon

Sign up to get notified when the full AI-powered summary is ready.

Get Free Summaries →

Free forever for up to 3 podcasts. No credit card required.

Listen to This Episode

Get summaries like this every morning.

Free AI-powered recaps of Future of HR and your other favorite podcasts, delivered to your inbox.

Get Free Summaries →

Free forever for up to 3 podcasts. No credit card required.