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by Sadhana Smiles
Welcome to Future Fit Leadership, a podcast for emerging and experienced leaders to learn, grow and become future fit! There has been a global shift in how we lead people. Traditional models are being challenged, and our workplaces are now dynamic. In this podcast you will hear and connect with leaders, CEO’s and change makers who will challenge the status quo and share their future ready strategies to unlock your growth. No matter where you are on your leadership journey this podcast will give you practical ideas and tools to help you think outside the square and become a change maker in your industry. Future Fit leadership is your place for bite sized learning, for time poor executives.
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- 5 days ago55 min
The Cost Of Fitting In: Finding Your Voice & Redefining Leadership | Premila Jina
How much of ourselves do we give up just to fit in? And what happens when we finally find the courage to be ourselves? In this episode of Future Fit Leadership, I speak with Premila Jina, CEO, board leader, transformation specialist and author of The Leader Unwritten and The Trusted Operator. Born in India, raised in Kenya, and having built a career in London's investment banking and technology sectors before moving to Australia, Premila shares the personal and professional cost of constantly adapting to belong. From changing her accent and appearance to fit into corporate environments, to finding the courage to wear a sari at a major technology event, her journey is one of reclaiming identity, confidence and voice. We explore why highly capable people are often overlooked for leadership, the difference between being a trusted doer and a trusted leader, and why organisations need to stop fixing people and start addressing the systems holding them back. Premila also shares her perspective on the global backlash against diversity, equity and inclusion, what that means for Australian workplaces, and the risk of artificial intelligence reinforcing existing bias. In this conversation, we explore: The hidden personal cost of fitting in and the importance of belonging. Why technical excellence doesn't automatically translate into leadership. The systemic barriers facing women of colour. What genuine inclusion looks like beyond policies and corporate statements. Why trust, courage and human-centred leadership matter more than ever. This is a candid conversation about identity, ambition, the courage to challenge expectations and what it will take to build workplaces where people don't have to change who they are to succeed. Because perhaps the future of leadership isn't about teaching people how to fit in. It's about creating workplaces where they no longer have to.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
- 1 weeks ago43 min
Kate Toon - The Misfit Who Stopped Chasing Success & Discovered The Power Of Being Herself
What happens when you've built successful businesses, earned recognition and achieved the things you once dreamed of, only to discover that success doesn't necessarily bring happiness? In this episode of Future Fit Leadership, Sadhana Smiles sits down with entrepreneur, author and business mentor Kate Toon for an honest, funny and refreshingly human conversation about business, leadership, reinvention and knowing when enough is enough. Kate shares her unconventional journey from corporate advertising to building successful digital businesses, including the loneliness of starting out as a new mother, the financial mistakes that changed her approach to business and the courage it took to stop trying to fit in. They explore what Kate has learned about leadership, why sharing failures builds more trust than celebrating achievements, the impact of AI on business and why human connection matters more than ever. And then there's the bookshop. After years of teaching people how to make money while they sleep, Kate bought a struggling coastal bookshop and discovered a different kind of success. Perhaps the most powerful moment comes when Kate reflects on years spent chasing recognition and the realisation that the applause that matters most is your own. A conversation about embracing who you are, finding your people and recognising that success isn't always about achieving more. Sometimes it's about learning to enjoy what you've already built.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
- 2 weeks ago51 min
How Leaders Create Consistent Performance with Curtis Sprouse
What separates a team that performs well from one that consistently delivers exceptional results? And how much of that comes down to the person leading it? In this episode of Future Fit Leadership, I sit down with Curtis Sprouse, Founder and CEO of Eureka Connect, who has worked with more than 5,000 individuals, including senior executives and business leaders, helping them better understand themselves, strengthen their leadership and build high-performing teams. Curtis brings a fascinating perspective on the relationship between self-awareness, behaviour and performance. We explore why talented people sometimes struggle to work together, the blind spots that hold leaders back and what it really takes to create a culture where people can do their best work. We also discuss his work developing young people, the lessons he has learned supporting entrepreneurs and innovators, and why understanding people remains one of the most important skills any leader can develop. Because high performance isn't simply about hiring the best people. It's about creating the conditions that allow them to succeed together. A conversation about people, potential and the leadership behaviours that make a difference.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
- 3 weeks ago50 min
If AI Takes The Entry Level Jobs, Who Becomes Tomorrow's Leaders? Jennifer Selby Long
The way we work has changed dramatically. But has the way we lead kept pace? In this episode of Future Fit Leadership, I sit down with Jennifer Selby Long, founder and CEO of Selby Group, who has coached senior leaders and executive teams across organisations including Airbnb, LinkedIn, Cisco and Nestlé. Jennifer has spent years helping leaders navigate organisational transformation, rapid growth, acquisitions and the complex human dynamics that can make or break a leadership team. Together, they explore why organisational change often needs to begin with personal change, what happens when leaders become the biggest barriers to their own success, and why emotional intelligence is no longer a nice-to-have but a critical business capability. They also unpack what really happens behind closed doors in executive teams, the uncomfortable conversations leaders avoid, the everyday habits that build trust, and how to measure whether leadership coaching is actually making a difference. And as AI reshapes the workplace, Jennifer challenges us to consider what technology can do for leaders and what must remain fundamentally human. If the world of work is changing faster than our leadership behaviours, what needs to change first? Please enjoy this conversation.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
- Oct 4, 202643 min
The Leader You Think You Are, Isn't Always The Leader They Experience
Why do good people sometimes become leaders they never intended to be? In this episode of Future Fit Leadership, I sit down with Preetie Boler, founder of Empowered by Design and creator of the Shiftcode™ methodology, to explore what really happens to our behaviour when pressure rises. Preetie’s work focuses on the gap between intention and impact - the space between the leader we believe we are and the leader other people actually experience. We talk about why capable leaders can become reactive or controlling under pressure, whether the accelerating pace of work is making leadership behaviour worse, and why organisations continue to promote technical excellence without paying enough attention to behavioural capability. We also explore Behavioural Intelligence, whether it can and should be measured, the hidden commercial cost of poor leadership behaviour, and why behaviour deserves a place alongside financial, operational and governance risk in the boardroom. And as AI and constant connectivity reshape the workplace, we ask an increasingly important question: are leaders becoming so busy responding that they are losing the space required for reflection and self-awareness? Perhaps the biggest question of all is whether people can genuinely change. Can a leader who has behaved a certain way for decades reinvent how they lead, or does pressure simply reveal the patterns that were there all along? This is a conversation about leadership beyond titles, frameworks and good intentions. It is about how we show up when things get hard, because ultimately, that is the leadership the people around us experience.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
- Sep 27, 202628 min
The Steady Leader: Performing Under Pressure Without Losing Your People| Drew Ginn OAM
What does Olympic-level performance teach us about leading people through pressure? Drew Ginn OAM is a three-time Olympic gold medallist, a member of Australia’s legendary Oarsome Foursome and now General Manager of Marshall White Bayside. In this conversation, Drew takes us behind the medals to explore the trust, honesty and discipline required to build a team capable of performing when the stakes are high. Drew reflects on joining an already successful Olympic crew at just 21 and questioning whether he was good enough to belong. He shares how the team practised difficult conversations before they reached breaking point, why immediate feedback matters and what leaders can learn from people who understand that discomfort is part of growth. We also explore the difference between sustainable performance and expecting people to operate at 100 per cent every day. Drew explains why recovery is not a reward for finishing the work, but part of the work itself. He discusses how leaders can remain steady while their people experience the inevitable highs and lows of performance, and why knowing when to challenge someone and when to support them is a critical leadership skill. The conversation also examines resilience, reinvention, coaching and the loneliness that can come with leadership. Drew shares why culture cannot sit with one person, why everyone must become a culture keeper, and what changes when leaders move beyond their own success and take responsibility for the performance of the whole team. Originally recorded for Behind the Numbers ahead of Drew’s appearance at the RISE Leadership Breakfast, this is a practical and deeply human conversation about leading under pressure without losing sight of the people beside you.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
- Sep 20, 202639 min
Fix Work, Not People: The Work Design Reset with Organisational Psychologist Dr Kat Pagewith Dr Kathryn Page
When people struggle at work, organisations often respond by trying to make them more resilient. But what if the problem is not the person? What if it is the way the work has been designed? In this episode of Future Fit Leadership, Sadhana Smiles is joined by organisational psychologist Dr Kat Page, author of Good Work: Transform Your Work from the Inside Out. Drawing on almost two decades of research, Kat challenges leaders to look beyond wellbeing programs and examine the systems shaping people’s daily experience of work. She explains why resilience should not be used to help people tolerate preventable dysfunction, and how load, latitude, love and leadership can create healthier, more sustainable workplaces. Kat also shares how being made redundant forced her to confront how closely her identity had become tied to her career, and how reconnecting with her values helped her redesign her own relationship with work. Together, Sadhana and Kat explore whether performance should be measured through energy rather than hours, why psychosocial safety risks becoming another compliance exercise, and who should benefit when AI gives us time back. Because good work is not simply about preventing burnout. It is about creating workplaces where people have agency, feel that they matter and can perform without sacrificing their health to do it.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
- Sep 13, 202650 min
Useful Belief: Choosing How You Lead When You Can't Control What Happens || Chris Helder
What if positive thinking isn’t always the answer? In this episode of Future Fit Leadership, Sadhana Smiles sits down with speaker and author Chris Helder for a wide-ranging conversation about the beliefs we carry, the stories we tell ourselves and how both shape the way we live and lead. Chris shares his concept of Useful Belief, a practical alternative to forced positivity. When circumstances are difficult or outside our control, the question becomes: what is the most useful belief I can choose right now? They explore Chris’s GOGI philosophy - guilt out, gratitude in, controlling the controllables, authenticity, influence and why leaders need to become more comfortable saying, “I don’t know.” They also discuss designing a life for excellence across work, family, health, friendships and self, rather than allowing success in one area to come at the expense of everything else. Chris also opens up about how his understanding of resilience has changed, his own struggle with feeling “enough”, and why reaching the top of one ladder led him to choose a new one centred on helping people. A thoughtful, funny and deeply human conversation about mindset, uncertainty, resilience and one deceptively simple idea: we may not control what happens next, but we can be intentional about the story we tell ourselves about it.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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