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- Jan 30, 202645 min
779 | Closing Content Gaps and Tracking AI Traffic w/ Dana DiTomaso
Kicking off 2026, EDGE of the Web welcomes Dana DiTomaso back to break down actionable strategies for content analysis, marketing measurement, and adapting to seismic shifts in digital traffic. Erin and Dana dive into the evolving value of website content as AI Overviews and LLMs change what users expect from search. In this episode, explore practical frameworks for identifying content gaps, leveraging engagement metrics, and connecting insights from sales and customer service back into your marketing roadmap. Dana DiTomaso shares tools and methodologies for content gap analysis, from analyzing queries in Google Search Console to using advanced AI pattern recognition on real user data, all while emphasizing the importance of tying marketing efforts to real business results. The discussion also covers how to track and contextualize AI-driven site traffic and why traditional rank tracking is taking a backseat to understanding actual audience needs. A standout moment is Dana DiTomaso's candid reminder that traffic doesn't always equal revenue, and why digital marketers must connect analytics to business impact. Key Segments [00:05:51] Aligning Marketing and Sales Strategies [00:09:15] Listening Enhances Product Insights [00:10:56] Understanding Personas by Job Titles [00:16:05] Addressing Content Gaps Strategically [00:18:42] Fixing Consent Configuration Issues [00:17:36] Identifying Trends via LLM Analysis [00:22:46] AI Queries: Google in Disguise [00:25:18] SEO's Evolving Paradigm Shift [00:30:27] AI Investment for Growth Thanks to our Sponsors! Site Strategics: http://edgeofthewebradio.com/site Inlinks/WAIKAY: https://edgeofthewebradio.com/waikay Follow Our Guest Bluesky: @danaditomaso LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dditomaso/ YouTube: @kp_playbook
- Jan 12, 202641 min
778 | Analytics Workout and Maturity Model Kickstart for 2026 w/ Dana DiTomaso
Start your year with a data-driven mindset as Erin Sparks welcomes analytics expert Dana DiTomaso to the show. This episode dives into the evolving realities of digital marketing measurement in 2026, pushing you to mature your approach with actionable strategies and fresh perspectives. Dana DiTomaso discusses why marketers can't afford to rely on outdated metrics and generic reporting in a world changing rapidly under AI's influence and economic headwinds. We unpack the pitfalls of "one-size-fits-all" analytics, tips for tracking what actually matters, and the practical process of tagging and categorizing every piece of site content based on its unique purpose down the funnel. Plus, learn how to build out reporting that clearly identifies audience intent, content gaps, and wins leadership buy-in. A standout theme: Not every page is meant to convert, and understanding content purpose is essential in today's digital landscape. Reporting frameworks must reflect genuine engagement and tangible business value, not just vanity metrics. Ready to reset your reporting? LIsten in in for practical workflows, candid advice on navigating tough leadership conversations, and a no-nonsense look at analytics maturity. Know your site, evolve your strategy, and stay ahead on EDGE of the Web! Key Segments: [00:04:39] Adapting to AI's Web Impact [00:08:34] Content Strategy for Engagement Analytics [00:11:14] EDGE of the Web Title Sponsor: Site Strategics [00:15:25] Prioritizing Bottom-Funnel Content [00:18:59] Content Consumption Tracking Method [00:20:14] GA4, Workshops, and Responsive Reports [00:23:47] Unifying Analytics for Better Strategy [00:25:11] EDGE of The Web Sponsor: Inlinks (WAIKAY) [00:26:57] Setting Up GA4 Audiences [00:30:49] Growth Takes Time to Learn [00:34:14] Experiment, Test, and Embrace Change [00:38:16] LLM Optimization and Introspection Thanks to Our Sponsors! Site Strategics: http://edgeofthewebradio.com/site Inlinks/WAIKAY: https://edgeofthewebradio.com/waikay Follow Our Guest Bluesky: @danaditomaso LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dditomaso/ YouTube: @kp_playbook Resources AI Traffic Analysis: Building GA4 Audiences That Drive Decisions The Analytics Maturity Framework: A Digital Marketer's Guide to Data Success Video: Turn AI snippets into sales: Track Google's AI traffic in GA4 & prove ROI
- Dec 2, 20251h 3m
777 | AI/SEO News from the EDGE | Week of 12.1.2025
This week's EDGE of the Web dives into the seismic shifts rocking the digital marketing landscape, from Adobe's blockbuster SEMrush acquisition to Google's long-awaited rollout of Search Console Annotations (well, not so seismic). The future of AI in SEO and the rising tide of data privacy laws set the tone for a fast-changing industry. Erin Sparks, Crystal Carter, and Jacob Mann break down what Adobe's $1.9 billion move means for marketers and explore how WIX is upping its AI tools, accessibility, and agentic web readiness. The crew also spotlights ChatGPT's rumored ad features, Google's continued experimental AI Mode ads, and the EU's Digital Omnibus, raising stakes for marketers everywhere. A side story on the dangers of AI SEO spam highlights how black hat tactics are evolving, bringing back old-school manipulation in a new LLM-driven context. The panel ponders whether brands and platforms are ready for the next frontier of search and content integrity. News from the EDGE: [00:07:55] Official: Adobe is acquiring Semrush for $1.9 billion [00:16:49] GSC has Annotations! Hoorah! Finally! [00:21:16] EU's Digital Omnibus and cookie consent - what you need to know AI / SEO News Segment: [00:23:26] EDGE of the Web Sponsor: Site Strategics [00:25:11] Gemini 3 refused to believe it was 2025, and hilarity ensued [00:32:17] ChatGPT Ads potential leaked [00:39:55] EDGE of the Web Sponsor: WAIKAI [00:41:29] Google Ads begin surfacing inside AI Mode as tests expand [00:45:52] AI Shopping Research [00:52:04] AI Poisoning: Black Hat SEO Is Back Thanks to our sponsors! Site Strategics: https://edgeofthewebradio.com/site Inlinks WAIKAY https://edgeofthewebradio.com/waikay Follow Us: X: @ErinSparks X: @CrystalontheWeb X: @TheMann00 X: @EDGEWebRadio
- Nov 26, 202513 min
776 | Wil Reynolds: Don't Do F*cking Listicles
Cut the Crap! Here's a special episode with Wil Reynolds from Seer Interactive when we were at BrightonSEO 2025 in San Diego this year. We HAD to grab Wil after his keynote and unpack his thoughts on where we are with AI and SEO. No more excuses: Wil Reynolds lays out bold strategies, from open-source testing to hands-on experimentation, empowering pros at every level to innovate, even without buy-in from the top. Hustle, determination, and optimizing for humans crushes the status quo and delivers real results. Ready to drop lazy listicles and lead with guts? Hit play for this straight-talking, actionable episode and stay sharp at the EDGE of the Web. Follow Our Guest Twitter: https://x.com/wilreynolds LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/wilreynolds/
- Nov 12, 202535 min
775 | AI, Authenticity, and SEO with Wil Reynolds
KPIs, Disrupted Is it time to rethink the key performance indicators driving digital marketing and SEO? This episode brings Wil Reynolds onto EDGE of the Web to challenge the old playbook and reveal how AI and changing online behavior are redefining success for marketers everywhere. Rankings and traffic volumes are fading as top priorities, replaced by strategies that value authenticity, human-centric connections, and theme-driven positioning. Erin Sparks and Wil Reynolds discuss the pitfalls of chasing vanity metrics, the impact of AI-powered search experiences, and how SEOs must rebalance their approach to focus on conversions, brand trust, and recommendation-driven marketing. The conversation tackles how agencies can communicate real value to clients in an era where genuine, meaningful engagement trumps sheer numbers. Prepare to learn about evolving KPIs and marketing metrics, and discover why the future belongs to agencies that champion purpose, value, and real connection in a rapidly shifting digital ecosystem. Key Segments: [00:04:50] Rethinking KPIs for Future Success [00:08:11] Optimizing Google Ads Conversion Insights [00:10:39] Rethinking Outdated KPIs [00:11:54] EDGE of the Web Sponsor: PreWriter.AI [00:14:10] Being Authentic [00:16:32] Trust Over Organic Search [00:18:02] Coming Up on the EDGE [00:20:00] Navigating Consumer-Agent Relationships [00:23:20] Authenticity in Brand Optimization [00:24:39] EDGE of The Web Sponsor: Inlinks (WAIKAY) [00:25:59] Client Positioning Through LLM Personalization [00:31:51] Scaling Leadership with Purpose Thanks to Our Sponsors! PreWriter: https://edgeofthewebradio.com/prewriter Inlinks/WAIKAY: https://edgeofthewebradio.com/waikay Follow Our Guest Twitter: https://x.com/wilreynolds LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/wilreynolds/
- Oct 30, 202550 min
774 | Paid Ad News from the EDGE | Week of 10.27.25
Is ChatGPT's new Atlas browser a Google killer? Greg Finn joins the roundtable to unpack shifting search results in Atlas, debate its reliability, and explore where Google, Bing, and browser innovation collide. The team tackles the impact of major AWS outages on Fortnite, Alexa, and the broader web, then pivots to Meta's fresh scam alerts targeting older users. Plus, get up to speed on breaking paid ad news: new Google Ads text guidelines, canceled account data deletion, shopping ad subscriptions, and the latest reporting tools aimed at advertisers. Greg brings a reality check on ad controls, while strong opinions surface on Meta's anti-scam efforts and the future of paid search amid rapidly changing platforms. Don't miss the wrap-up as the hosts share practical advice, highlight upcoming releases, and tease next week's episode. Tune in for sharp analysis and timely commentary on the hottest news shaping digital marketing, right here on EDGE of the Web! News from the EDGE: [00:02:41] OpenAI introduces ChatGPT Atlas, a built-in web browser [00:10:25] Massive AWS outage disrupts Fortnite, Alexa, Snapchat, and other major apps [00:13:50] EDGE of the Web Sponsor: PreWriter.AI [00:15:01] Meta rolls out new scam alerts to safeguard older users Special News Segment: [00:21:31] Google Ads Text Guidelines Now Rolling Out? [00:24:48] Google Ads quietly tests auto-setting "New Customer Value" [00:28:41] Google Ads to permanently delete canceled accounts after six months [00:32:34] EDGE of The Web Sponsor: Inlinks (WAIKAY) [00:34:43] Improving navigation and introducing a new control for ads on Google Search. [00:39:57] Google opens Shopping Ads to physical goods subscriptions [00:43:21] Google Ads Missed Growth Opportunities Tab Thanks to our sponsors! PreWriter.AI: https://edgeofthewebradio.com/prewriter Inlinks WAIKAY https://edgeofthewebradio.com/waikay Follow Us: X: @ErinSparks X: @gregfinn X: @TheMann00 X: @EDGEWebRadio
- Oct 23, 202543 min
773 | Content Strategy and LLMS.txt w/ Carolyn Shelby
AI Eats Your Content Is your website feeding the AI overlords? Or hiding all the good stuff under napkins and toggles? On this week's EDGE of the Web, Erin Sparks sits down with Carolyn Shelby, Principal SEO at Yoast, to reveal why your site's juiciest content may be lost to the bots (and your users, too). We dig into Carolyn's strategies for structuring content that's not only valuable to users, but also perfectly plated for LLMs like GPT and Google's AI Overview. From the new LLMs.txt "treasure map" for your website to deep dives on why schema isn't your silver bullet, Carolyn delivers expert guidance (complete with sheet cake metaphors and cafeteria tray analogies) to help you chunk, serve, and show off your best ideas for the AI appetite. And, for those still determined to hide FAQs behind fancy sliders… watch out. Carolyn shares why conversion flow isn't where you think it is, and why making peace with longer, openly structured info pages might just save your SEO bacon (and your server bills). We wrap with practical tips to build up your content strategy for AI, advice on speaking your users' language, and a side of wit. Press play for your weekly dose of SEO smarts, AI survival tactics, and enough food metaphors to power your next content audit! [00:04:51] Content Strategy for AI Search Visibility [00:08:33] Visual Analogy: "Cake & Frosting" Content Model [00:09:31] EDGE of the Web Sponsor: PreWriter.AI from Bruce Clay [00:11:00] Rethinking Page Design: Human UX vs. LLM Accessibility [00:14:04] Redefining Conversion Funnel: From Site-Centric to AI-Centric [00:16:27] Alternate Markdown Versions of Pages [00:18:09] EDGE of the Web Housekeeping Break: Upcoming Guests & News Podcast [00:19:35] Balancing Clarity, Structure & Creativity for Humans and AI [00:24:34] Transition Phrases: Building Logical Bridges in Content [00:28:33] Search Rankings as the Gateway to LLM Visibility [00:30:42] EDGE of The Web Sponsor: Inlinks (WAIKAY) [00:32:11] Required Mindsets: User Intent & Conversational Language [00:36:10] Measuring Performance: Beyond Traditional Rank Tracking [00:39:19] Final Actionable Tip: Create Helpful, Original Content [00:39:57] Where to Find Carolyn: Articles, Social, & Publications Thanks to Our Sponsors! PreWriter.AI: https://edgeofthewebradio.com/prewriter Inlinks WAIKAY https://edgeofthewebradio.com/waikay Follow Our Guest Twitter: @cshel LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cshel/ Resources Learn about Ladonia (DONATE!): https://www.ladonia.org/about/ Carolyn's Posts on LLMS.txt: https://www.cshel.com/ai-seo/how-llms-interpret-content-structuring-for-ai-search-unedited-version/ https://searchengineland.com/llms-txt-isnt-robots-txt-its-a-treasure-map-for-ai-456586
- Oct 16, 202542 min
772 | Unpacking LLMs.txt with Carolyn Shelby
Erin welcomes Carolyn Shelby, the Principal SEO at Yoast and a renowned authority in technical and enterprise SEO. Carolyn brings decades of hands-on experience from her pioneering days in digital marketing, working with brands like Disney's ESPN, Tribune Publishing, and major nonprofits. The conversation kicks off with a surprising twist—Carolyn's unique title as Queen of the micronation Ladonia—before diving into her role at Yoast and their latest innovation: the LLMs.txt file generator. Carolyn explains how this new file helps websites communicate their most valuable content directly to large language models like ChatGPT and Google's AI, streamlining the way future search agents discover and answer questions with information from your site. We explore what inspired Yoast's push to roll out LLMs.txt to over 13 million sites, what website owners should include in their files, potential industry pushback, the adoption challenge with search giants, and how this moment could change the way websites optimize for AI-driven search results. Key Segments: [00:01:46] Introducing Carolyn Shelby, Senior SEO at Yoast [00:03:09] Queen of the Micronation Ladonia? [00:07:56] What is the LLMS.txt file? [00:08:59] LLMS.txt is a Treasure Map [00:14:38] A New File, along with Robots.txt and Sitemap.xml [00:15:41] What inspired Yoast to create this LLM text file? [00:17:12] EDGE of the Web Sponsor: PreWriter.AI [00:18:22] LLMS.txt proposed by Jeremy Howard (Sept, 2024) [00:22:37] Standard Uniformity and Acceptance? [00:24:43] Housekeeping [00:29:37] LLM Markdown Effort Questioned: Exploitation? [00:31:41] LLMs Lack Memory at Inference [00:34:07] EDGE of The Web Sponsor: Inlinks (WAIKAY) [00:36:09] Pushback on the LLMS.txt file Thanks to Our Sponsors! PreWriter.AI: https://edgeofthewebradio.com/prewriter Inlinks WAIKAY https://edgeofthewebradio.com/waikay Follow Our Guest Twitter: @cshel LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cshel/ Resources Learn about Ladonia (DONATE!): https://www.ladonia.org/about/ Carolyn's Posts on LLMS.txt: https://www.cshel.com/ai-seo/how-llms-interpret-content-structuring-for-ai-search-unedited-version/ https://searchengineland.com/llms-txt-isnt-robots-txt-its-a-treasure-map-for-ai-456586
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EDGE of the Web is a weekly digital marketing podcast discussing all things in Digital Marketing: SEO, Social Media, Content Marketing, and more. Host Erin Sparks discusses the latest news and trends in the digital marketing industry as well as interviews with some of the top names in marketing. Visit our website at edgeofthewebradio.com to see all of our past shows and videos.
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