
Multiple live callers join this month's Q&A as I react to Dwarkesh Patel's $20K blog prize, debate the orthogonality thesis from first principles, and welcome Bernie Sanders aboard the Doom Train.Timestamps00:00:00 — Cold Open00:01:00 — Welcome to Doom Debates Live!00:01:30 — What Do You Think of Open Source Models Out-Benchmarking OpenAI and Anthropic?00:04:55 — Michael Cheers Joins: What If We Don't Give AIs Full Situational Awareness?00:11:55 — Thoughts on Mythos' Hacking Abilities?00:15:43 — Liron Reacts to Dwarkesh Patel's $20K AI Questions00:23:28 — Pretraining Goals vs RL Training Goals00:28:58 — Mental Model of Yudkowsky-ians & the IABIED Claim00:37:24 — You Can't Hide Reality from a Superintelligence (The Truman Show Analogy)00:42:57 — Back to Dwarkesh's Questions: When Do AI Labs Start Making Money?00:48:50 — Upcoming Guests Reveal!00:51:35 — Will Lancer Joins: Is The Yudkowskian Thesis Credible?01:27:03 — Back to Answering Questions from the Chat01:33:28 — The Cameraman Always Survives Analogy01:40:52 — Liron's Banger Response to Roon's Tweet01:47:00 — Nuance About Pausing AI Development01:50:57 — Capitalism Isn't Going to Steer Us to an Alignment Solution01:53:10 — Is Optimization Equivalent to Intelligence?01:57:21 — BREAKING: Bernie Sanders on the Existential Threat of AI02:01:12 — Spoiler for the Upcoming Mike Israetel Episode02:01:57 — $500 Bet on AI Unemployment02:05:46 — Misuse, Surveillance, and the Real Costs of Pausing AI02:11:04 — Wrap-UpLinksNick Bostrom, Deep Utopia: Life and Meaning in a Solved World (Amazon) — https://www.amazon.com/Deep-Utopia-Meaning-Solved-World/dp/1646871642Yudkowsky & Soares, If Anyone Builds It, Everyone Dies (book) — https://www.amazon.com/If-Anyone-Builds-Everyone-Dies/dp/0316571253Doom Debates’ Mission is to raise mainstream awareness of imminent extinction from AGI and build the social infrastructure for high-quality debate.Support the mission by subscribing to my Substack at DoomDebates.com and to youtube.com/@DoomDebates, or to really take things to the next level: Donate 🙏 Get full access to Doom Debates at lironshapira.substack.com/subscribe
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