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by Alison Kay & Andrea Huehnerhoff
The Ancestral Kitchen is a podcast hosted by Alison, a European town-dweller and Andrea, living on a family farm in northwest Washington state. Pull up a chair at the table and join us as we talk about eating, cooking and living with ancient ancestral food wisdom in a modern-world kitchen.
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- 6 days ago1h 39m
#139 - Swimming Upstream: Ethical Salmon in an Era of Farmed Fish with Sam Pflaum of Ketchikan Sam's
What does ethical and sustainable seafood look like, and how in the world do we even begin to find such a thing? In this episode Andrea sat down with Sam Pflaum, owner and operator of Ketchikan Sam’s up in Ketchikan, Alaska, USA. Sam’s family has been living and fishing in Ketchikan, Alaska for several generations, and he understands the nature of the fish and the nature of the fishing industry. We asked him about farmed vs wild-caught salmon, different varieties of salmon, salmon hatcheries, ethics of salmon and eating fish when you live away from the ocean. We talked about alternatives to salmon and other types of fish that are good to eat, and we discussed seasonality and storing of fresh fish. This was a fascinating and eye-opening episode - seafood is a topic we are often asked about but we are not deeply educated on ourselves, and it was a relief to have someone to ask these questions who really understands the industry from all angles.After we finished recording the main feed episode, Sam took us on a walking tour of his fish plant, which you can see on our Ancestral Kitchen Podcast YouTube channel; supporters of the podcast can also listen in to the audio of this on the private podcast feed. Nothing beats seeing the visuals and walking outside to see the salmon running down the creek right outside the fish plant!Sam is educating us on how to find ethical suppliers wherever we may be, and the quality of fish to look for; we have also shared links to his online store for frozen fish shipping everywhere in the USA, in the show notes. There are plenty of other great resources in the show notes today too, so check them out for additional video content from Ketchikan Sam’s!* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Sign up to the pod's newsletter here.Get a free 30-page guide to Baking with Ancient GrainsRead our Guide to Milling Your Own FlourGet all three of the podcast cookbooksWear our beautiful, sustainable merchandiseAlison's course, Rye Sourdough Bread: Mastering The BasicsAlison's Sowans oat fermentation courseVisit our (non-Amazon!) bookshop: US here and UK here.* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Come join the podcast community! You can select from a variety of levels with benefits including monthly live calls, a private podcast feed stuffed with bonus content, and a Discord discussion group Find out more here!* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *What We Talked About:What was the last thing you ate today?Let's do a deep dive on salmon - current sustainability issues, fishing ethics, regulations, as well as farmed vs wild-caughtShould someone who lives away from the sea be eating ocean seafood?What are some reasonable alternatives to salmon?The rising cost of seafood - prices double as tariffs block global imports of cheap, net-caught seafoodFish seasonality - when to look for certain fish? How long can we store them in the freezer?Jakob wanted to know: What sea animals can you smoke?Visit Ancestral Kitchen Podcast on YouTube to see a walking tour of the fish plant and smokehouse, as well as hear Sam's favorite ways to cook and serve fish!The personal views and opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect our own personal views or opinions. We recognize that our guests are whole persons and this may include views we or our audience actively disagree with; our guests are invited to the show because we feel they have something valuable to share with us all, and we do not ask them to censor their personal views on air. Our sharing of their work is not necessarily an endorsement of their p
- 2 weeks ago1h 45m
#138 - Fermenting Vegetables - Your Questions Answered (with Holly Howe of Make Sauerkraut)
Fermenting vegetables is a topic we all have questions on, whether we’re just starting with fermentation or we’ve been doing it for years. Today I welcome Holly Howe of makesauerkraut.com and we answer your real-life fermenting veg questions. Holly is amazing. I personally learned so much from the hour and a half I spent with her, and I know that wherever you are in your fermentation practise, you will too.Supporters can also access an after show - I persuaded Holly to stay on a bit longer and talk to me about how to know if a ferment has gone bad and what steps you can take to combat mould.Holly is super busy right now organising her upcoming event, the fermentation summit which will run from September the 15th to 17th this year, 2026. If you would like to get access to a whole load of free video presentations by fermentation experts that will move your practise forward no matter where you are at, sign up at ancestralkitchenpodcast.com/hollysummit.* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Sign up to the pod's newsletter here.Get a free 30-page guide to Baking with Ancient GrainsRead our Guide to Milling Your Own FlourGet all three of the podcast cookbooksWear our beautiful, sustainable merchandiseAlison's course, Rye Sourdough Bread: Mastering The BasicsAlison's Sowans oat fermentation courseVisit our (non-Amazon!) bookshop: US here and UK here.* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Come join the podcast community! You can select from a variety of levels with benefits including monthly live calls, a private podcast feed stuffed with bonus content, and a Discord discussion group Find out more here!* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *What we cover:Equipment for fermentationThe use of inoculantsWhat the best cabbage is for sauerkrautWhat to do if your sauerkraut is dryThe importance of salt in fermentation and which salt is the bestWhat will make the difference between succeeding and failingHow long to ferment your sauerkraut forHow to make a year’s worth of sauerkrautCucumber pickles, talking about how to avoid them going softThe personal views and opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect our own personal views or opinions. We recognize that our guests are whole persons and this may include views we or our audience actively disagree with; our guests are invited to the show because we feel they have something valuable to share with us all, and we do not ask them to censor their personal views on air. Our sharing of their work is not necessarily an endorsement of their personal views.* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *If you love the show, leave us a 5* reviews on Apple Podcasts:Open the Apple Podcast app and find Ancestral Kitchen Podcast in your libraryScroll down to 'ratings and reviews', click on 'write a review', give us 5*s and then tell us why you love listening* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Resources:To sign up for The Fermentation Summit go hereHolly’s websiteHolly
- Aug 17, 20261h 36m
#137 - Your Questions: Handling Social Food Obligations, Children and Ancestral Foods, and more
Every month we ask our supporters to send us their questions so we can tackle them on a special podcast called kitchen table chats, which is shared exclusively with our supporters as a special bonus and a thank you for keeping the podcast on the air for all our beloved listeners around the world.In these episodes we are much more informal and perhaps a bit more forward than we are in the main feed.In the summer, it has become our tradition to take one or two of these episodes and post them to the main feed so you can step in and enjoy this casual, more intimate time with us. Many of our supporters tell us these are their favorite episodes, maybe because sometimes we get a little bit obnoxious and opinionated.In this episode we answered questions from Hannah, Brittney and Ella, four questions in all. We tackled how to handle potlucks and events where you share food with others, and others share food with you? We talked about how to help children adjust or transition to ancestral food, and do we have thoughts on bringing ancestral food to the plates of foster children that may be in our homes? We also discussed the fun question, how did we meet? Lastly we talked about attending social obligations with young children, with all of the junk food and potential scenes that can come from repeatedly telling children they cannot have all of the good things being put in front of them or even handed to them by well-meaning people. There is also a lot more in this episode including discussion of good books we have been reading, and several good titles we recommend; Alison’s quick pancakes; and a contribution from our supporter Rebekah, the most interesting cock-a-leekie soup!* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Sign up to the pod's newsletter here.Get a free 30-page guide to Baking with Ancient GrainsRead our Guide to Milling Your Own FlourGet all three of the podcast cookbooksWear our beautiful, sustainable merchandiseAlison's course, Rye Sourdough Bread: Mastering The BasicsAlison's Sowans oat fermentation courseVisit our (non-Amazon!) bookshop: US here and UK here.* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Come join the podcast community! You can select from a variety of levels with benefits including monthly live calls, a private podcast feed stuffed with bonus content, and a Discord discussion group Find out more here!* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *What We Talked About:Welcome to our 50th KTC episode!!!Cock-a-Leekie Soup from RebekahNovember's KTC Live Zoom call with podcast supportersAlison's quick pancakesHodmedods and YQ Wheat - another wheat Rob can have?The Glassmaker by Tracy ChevalierThe Instrumentalist by Harriet ConstableThe November KTC 49 recording of Andrea with 3 other ancestral moms - referenced several times in this episodeAlison's recording with Marcos Patchett, Episode 119Plus, the Kitchen Table Chats private podcast aftershow with Marcos PatchettFeminism Against Progress by Mary Harrington<
- Aug 3, 20261h 33m
Encore: What Fermented Drinks Can I Make?
Today we’re bringing you an episode of the podcast that originally went out in 2023. It’s one of our favourites, all about fermented drinks. In it, we cover over 20 different fermented drinks, including:SCOBY fermentswhey fermentsgrain fermentswild fermentsAnd we talk to you about how you can incorporate these super health-giving, delicious foods into your life.So if you’ve ever asked the question, “What fermented drinks can I make?” or “What other fermented drinks can I make?” This episode is for you.For supporters of the podcast, there is a bonus e-book containing four of our favourite fermented drinks to download from the website.* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Sign up to the pod's newsletter here.Get a free 30-page guide to Baking with Ancient GrainsRead our Guide to Milling Your Own FlourGet all three of the podcast cookbooksWear our beautiful, sustainable merchandiseAlison's course, Rye Sourdough Bread: Mastering The BasicsAlison's Sowans oat fermentation courseVisit our (non-Amazon!) bookshop: US here and UK here.* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Come join the podcast community! You can select from a variety of levels with benefits including monthly live calls, a private podcast feed stuffed with bonus content, and a Discord discussion group Find out more here!* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *What we cover:Scoby fermentsWhey ferments, and how you don't have to use wheyGrain ferments, including ale and bozaWild fermentsDairy fermentsGluten-free fermentsSugar and alcohol content concernsUsing fermented drinks in smoothiesSecond-ferments* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *If you love the show, leave us a 5* reviews on Apple Podcasts:Open the Apple Podcast app and find Ancestral Kitchen Podcast in your libraryScroll down to 'ratings and reviews', click on 'write a review', give us 5*s and then tell us why you love listening* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Resources:Boza courseSowans course (affiliate link)DIY proofing box articleKobo Fermentary (the gingerbug queen)Andrea's Kombucha articleAlison Rye Kvass articleDo you have memories, documents, recipes or stories of those who cooked ancestrally? Visit our website here for how to shareThe podcast has a website here!Stay in touch with Alison via her newsletter at Ancest
- Jul 20, 20261h 55m
#136 - Ancestral Habits and Lifestyle Outside of the Kitchen: what we do and why it matters
If we understand the importance of eating nose to tail, preparing bone broth and fermenting our grains, we understand that these ancestral principles for preparing food help our body to benefit more from the food we are eating and to avoid some of the damaging effects of industrial foods.But are there other areas in our life where industrialized habits, behaviors and products are damaging our bodies and lives and are there ancestral, traditional ways of living we can look back at and try to imitate or recreate in our lives today, for optimal human thriving, longevity and happiness?Yes, there absolutely are. There are ways of ancestral living that reach beyond the doors of the kitchen that support our habits in the kitchen, and our habits in the kitchen support our life outside. It’s all inextricably interconnected. In this episode we talk about what some of these ancestral aspects of modern life are, and how we have been integrating them and what you can do to bring them into your life today.We have a further aftershow on our private supporter podcast, Kitchen Table Chats, where we discuss some important habits to cultivate, and we dropped a lot of links and resources in the show notes to support all of what we are discussing today. Rather than push our body to the limits of its tolerance, let's place ourselves in a prime position for thriving and succeeding, and enjoying our life more every day.* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Sign up to the pod's newsletter here.Get a free 30-page guide to Baking with Ancient GrainsRead our Guide to Milling Your Own FlourGet all three of the podcast cookbooksWear our beautiful, sustainable merchandiseAlison's course, Rye Sourdough Bread: Mastering The BasicsAlison's Sowans oat fermentation courseVisit our (non-Amazon!) bookshop: US here and UK here.* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Come join the podcast community! You can select from a variety of levels with benefits including monthly live calls, a private podcast feed stuffed with bonus content, and a Discord discussion group Find out more here!* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ** * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *If you love the show, leave us a 5* reviews on Apple Podcasts:Open the Apple Podcast app and find Ancestral Kitchen Podcast in your libraryScroll down to 'ratings and reviews', click on 'write a review', give us 5*s and then tell us why you love listening* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Resources:Against the Machine by Paul KingsnorthWhoop sleep study (one of many!)Episode 76: Essential Oils in an Ancestral KitchenEpisode 37: A Peek into Alison and Rob's Ancestral LifestyleEpisode 12: Why I Gave Away My iPhoneDecluttering help from Minimal Mom on YouTube<a href="https://www.whoop.com/us/en/thelocker/whoop-podcast-all-episodes/ " rel="noo
- Jul 6, 20261h 19m
#135 - 800 Egg Recipes! Interview with Too Many Eggs author Mimi Smith-Dvorak
Eggs seem the simplest of foods, right? Why would someone write a book with over 800 egg recipes? We both have this book: "Too Many Eggs", and it has blown our minds with its plethora of recipes, practical tips and fascinating history.So we were very excited to talk to its author, Mimi Smith Dvorak. In this episode, she shares with us the story of this book. We talk about the crazy lengths she went to when researching and some of our favourite recipes in it. We also talk about the practicalities of eggs, with some really helpful tips on how to work with them including a deep dive into mayonnaise, with her expert tips from having made it over and over again. Along the way, we talk about sustainable food, her incredible historic cookbook collection and much more.This is a fun episode, and with the book that you can buy in hardback or download free as a PDF from toomanyeggs.com, you'll never look at eggs the same way again.* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Sign up to the pod's newsletter here.Get a free 30-page guide to Baking with Ancient GrainsRead our Guide to Milling Your Own FlourGet all three of the podcast cookbooksWear our beautiful, sustainable merchandiseAlison's course, Rye Sourdough Bread: Mastering The BasicsAlison's Sowans oat fermentation courseVisit our (non-Amazon!) bookshop: US here and UK here.* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Come join the podcast community! You can select from a variety of levels with benefits including monthly live calls, a private podcast feed stuffed with bonus content, and a Discord discussion group Find out more here!* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *The personal views and opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect our own personal views or opinions. We recognize that our guests are whole persons and this may include views we or our audience actively disagree with; our guests are invited to the show because we feel they have something valuable to share with us all, and we do not ask them to censor their personal views on air. Our sharing of their work is not necessarily an endorsement of their personal views.* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *If you love the show, leave us a 5* reviews on Apple Podcasts:Open the Apple Podcast app and find Ancestral Kitchen Podcast in your libraryScroll down to 'ratings and reviews', click on 'write a review', give us 5*s and then tell us why you love listening* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Resources:Get a copy of "Too Many Eggs" from Mimi's website. You can buy a hardback there, or you can download a PDF copy for free.You can also, in the US, buy "Too Many Eggs" from our Amazon-free online bookstore. In doing so, you'll be supporting the podcast.Do you have memories, documents, recipes or stories of those who cooked ancestrally? Visit our website here for how to shareThe podcast has a website here!Stay in touch with Alison via her newsletter at Ancestral KitchenThe podca
- Jun 15, 20261h 23m
#134 - Freezer Meals: Ancestral Foods for busy days, post-partum, and make-ahead food prepping
Whether it's anticipating busy days between work and school, heavy project days writing or working in the garden or canning, postpartum or surgery recovery period - there are many reasons why having a stocked freezer supplied with ready to go meals and ingredients is an enormous benefit to living an ancestral, locavore style life. For many reasons - financial, ingredient concerns, sourcing concerns, access - many of us are not able to rely on the fallback of quick easy prepared foods from a grocery store or restaurants, and many of us don't have a village around us that can supply emergency meals in time of need, much less meals that would comply with our sometimes complicated or weird dietary requirements.Building the routine of freezer stacking has been invaluable for our family, and in this episode I hope to share some of the ideas, meals and ingredients that have been helpful for us. Of course I thought of many more as soon as we finished recording, but there is plenty here to work with!There is a bonus download for this episode available to all listeners, where we included recipe links for many of the foods we are going to discuss. If you are in our supporter community, we look forward to hearing your freezer ideas and contributions in our discussion boards on Discord. Let’s get the ideas flowing and keep those freezers stocked!* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Sign up to the pod's newsletter here.Get a free 30-page guide to Baking with Ancient GrainsRead our Guide to Milling Your Own FlourGet all three of the podcast cookbooksWear our beautiful, sustainable merchandiseAlison's course, Rye Sourdough Bread: Mastering The BasicsAlison's Sowans oat fermentation courseVisit our (non-Amazon!) bookshop: US here and UK here.* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Come join the podcast community! You can select from a variety of levels with benefits including monthly live calls, a private podcast feed stuffed with bonus content, and a Discord discussion group Find out more here!* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *What we talked about:Leah's business, which relies on freezers!The free bonus download for this episodeWhy and when freezer meals can play an important roleIdeas to consider when planning your freezer mealsAll-in-one prepared meals and casserolesSidekicks, or parts of meals that can be paired with morePrepped ingredients, meant to be use in a dishContainers and storage solutionsThe personal views and opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect our own personal views or opinions. We recognize that our guests are whole persons and this may include views we or our audience actively disagree with; our guests are invited to the show because we feel they have something valuable to share with us all, and we do not ask them to censor their personal views on air. Our sharing of their work is not necessarily an endorsement of their personal views.* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *If you love the show, leave us a 5* reviews on Apple Podcasts:Open the Apple Podcast app and find Ancestral Kitchen Podcast in your libraryScroll down to 'ratings and reviews', click on 'write a review', give us 5*s and then tell us why you love listening* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Resources:Ketchikan Sam’s podcast link or go to Ketchikan Sam’s and use code ANCESTRAL26<a href="https://ancestr
- Jun 1, 20261h 23m
#133 - Home Milling Q & A
We get lots of questions from supporters and listeners about milling your own flour and thought it was about time we brought them all together a Q&A.This episode is packed with information:We start with troubleshooting bread made with freshly milled flour, including:why your bread might not be rising as muchwhy you might have experienced your bread pancakingand why freshly milled flour breads need more water and how best to transition to thatWe then go on to talk about sifting, how to do it, and the nutritional effects.We talk about storing grain, whether we're personally concerned with the heat that grinding grains at home produces, and then how we store excess flour.We cover freshly milling gluten-free grains, including a deep dive into oats.And we talk about all the other things you can use your home mill for, and there are lots of them.Whether you have a mill or whether you're just thinking about getting a mill, this episode will bring you something new.* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Sign up to the pod's newsletter here.Get a free 30-page guide to Baking with Ancient GrainsRead our Guide to Milling Your Own FlourGet all three of the podcast cookbooksWear our beautiful, sustainable merchandiseAlison's course, Rye Sourdough Bread: Mastering The BasicsAlison's Sowans oat fermentation courseVisit our (non-Amazon!) bookshop: US here and UK here.* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Come join the podcast community! You can select from a variety of levels with benefits including monthly live calls, a private podcast feed stuffed with bonus content, and a Discord discussion group Find out more here!* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ** * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *If you love the show, leave us a 5* reviews on Apple Podcasts:Open the Apple Podcast app and find Ancestral Kitchen Podcast in your libraryScroll down to 'ratings and reviews', click on 'write a review', give us 5*s and then tell us why you love listening* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Resources:Ancestral Kitchen Podcast Guide to Home MillingThe Grain Flavour Wheel ProjectAlison’s article on making stone-ground oatmeal in the mockmillMockmill Milling GuideBread LasagnaDo you have memories, documents, recipes or stories of those who cooked ancestrally? Visit our website here for how to shareThe podcast has a website here!Stay in touch with Alison via her newsletter at Ancestral Kitchen<a href="https://youtube.com/@AncestralKitchenPodcast-bw6bb" rel="noopener noreferrer" tar
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