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- Apr 29, 202546 min
Season 2, Episode 6: Get Behind Me, Satan
We return to Scott’s time with The Base, the neo-Nazi accelerationist group bent on sparking a race war. Taking down this violent cell of white supremacists takes everything he’s learned in his decades-long undercover career. And then… retirement. For someone who has spent his whole life pretending to be someone he’s not: who is Scott Payne?
- Apr 22, 202535 min
Season 2, Episode 5: Klan Kologne
Scott re-enters the life of an undercover agent with a new assignment: infiltrate a chapter of the KKK. With white supremacist violence on the rise, he finds himself in the middle of a field in Alabama - about to join the Klan.
- Apr 15, 202544 min
Season 2, Episode 4: Do Not Recommend
Scott is deep undercover in the Outlaws, becoming close friends with members of the dangerous biker gang. But you can only get so deep for so long. And now Scott is at risk of losing everything: his marriage, his body and his mind.
- Apr 8, 202534 min
Season 2, Episode 3: Who’s A Rat Dot Com
Scott Payne is a big, intimidating, Harley-riding guy. He’s the perfect choice to infiltrate the Outlaws Motorcycle Club. For him, it’s a dream assignment - getting inside an international criminal organization whose arch-rival is the Hell's Angels. Then, things go bad. Really bad.
- Apr 1, 202531 min
Season 2, Episode 2: You Got Anything for Rednecks?
How does a young, self-proclaimed redneck end up becoming one of the most storied undercover agents of our time? We trace Agent Payne’s path from a satan-worshiping southern high school student, all the way to becoming a “Hillbilly Donnie Brasco.”
- Mar 25, 202530 min
Season 2, Episode 1: The Insider
After chatting online, it’s FBI undercover Special Agent Scott Payne's first in-person meeting with The Base. Alone. Now he just needs to convince the international neo-Nazi network that he's one of them.To hear all episodes of White Hot Hate: Agent Pale Horse right now, ad-free, subscribe to CBC True Crime Premium on Apple Podcasts.
- Mar 18, 20253 min
Introducing White Hot Hate Season 2: Agent Pale Horse
Coming March 25, 2025. FBI undercover agent Scott Payne’s job was to infiltrate the most dangerous gangs of our times: outlaw bikers, drug cartels and the international neo-Nazi networks hellbent on inciting a race war. In the second season of White Hot Hate, host Michelle Shephard gives you an unvarnished view of a life undercover. Because after a 28-year-long career pretending to be somebody else, Agent Payne is ready to tell his side of the story. Hear all episodes early and ad-free by subscribing to CBC True Crime Premium.
- Nov 24, 202139 min
Season 1, Episode 6: “Give them what they deserve”
Patrik Mathews could be facing up to 25 years in prison for U.S. firearm offences. His and others’ arrests may have destroyed the appeal of accelerationist groups like The Base — but where is the movement heading now? For transcripts of this series, please visit: https://www.cbc.ca/radio/podcastnews/white-hot-hate-transcripts-listen-1.6226840
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About White Hot Hate: Agent Pale Horse
FBI undercover agent Scott Payne’s job was to infiltrate the most dangerous gangs of our times: outlaw bikers, drug cartels and the international neo-Nazi networks hellbent on inciting a race war. He was taking down these groups from within. And Scott was good at it — people confided in him their most audacious plans for mass violence and domestic terrorism.In the second season of White Hot Hate, host Michelle Shephard gives you an unvarnished view of a life undercover. Because after a 28-year-long career pretending to be somebody else, Agent Payne is ready to tell his side of the story. Coming March 25, 2025.This series was produced alongside a book co-written by Scott Payne and Michelle Shephard titled Code Name: Pale Horse: How I Went Undercover to Expose America's Nazis.
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