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- Aug 14, 202636 min
David Edwards on 160 Years of Aerospace and What Comes Next
Welcome to this episode of What Follows - the podcast where we explore the people shaping aviation today, and the ideas defining what comes next.In this episode, host Nate Thuli speaks with David “Dave” Edwards, Chief Executive of the Royal Aeronautical Society, about a life in aviation and the responsibility of leading one of the world’s oldest aerospace institutions. Dave traces his path from earning a pilot’s license at 17 through roles spanning airlines, business aviation, charter operations, Gama Aviation, Wheels Up, and Qatar Executive.The conversation looks back to the Royal Aeronautical Society’s founding in 1866, when questions about bird flight and aerial navigation pointed toward a future that had not yet arrived. Dave identifies the moments that changed aerospace, from powered flight and global navigation to systems management, space exploration, automation, and artificial intelligence. His central lesson is that innovation rarely moves in a straight line: ideas return when technology, economics, regulation, and public trust are finally ready.Nate and Dave also examine what greater autonomy could mean for pilots, passengers, and the wider aviation system. They discuss the difference between technical capability and public acceptance, why safety and trust must develop alongside automation, and how humans and machines may share responsibility in future flight operations.The episode closes by turning from history to stewardship. Dave explains why the future of aerospace depends on giving young people access, inspiration, and room to create their own defining moments. From Kitty Hawk to the next breakthrough in aviation or space, progress continues when one generation is prepared to pass the torch to the next.Key TopicsEarning a pilot’s license at 17 and building a career across commercial and business aviationLeadership at the Royal Aeronautical Society and the responsibility of stewarding a 160-year institutionThe Society’s 1866 origins in questions about bird flight and aerial navigationMajor inflection points in aerospace history and the conditions that made them possibleThe evolution from direct aircraft control to navigation, automation, and systems managementCurrent innovations shaping the future of aviation and aerospaceThe expanding role of space exploration within the aerospace imaginationArtificial intelligence, automation, and the future division of responsibility in flightThe gap between technological capability, regulatory acceptance, and passenger trustHuman-machine collaboration in safety-critical environmentsWhy older aerospace ideas often return when enabling technologies catch upKitty Hawk as a reminder that transformative moments can initially appear modestCreating access and inspiration for the next generation of aerospace professionalsKey FrameworksAerial Navigation Evolution: aerospace progressed from the challenge of controlling flight to navigating, coordinating, and managing increasingly complex systemsTechnology Adoption Curve in Aerospace: invention alone is insufficient; certification, economics, infrastructure, safety evidence, and public trust determine when an idea becomes operational realityHuman-Machine Collaboration: automation is most credible when roles, accountability, oversight, and intervention are clearly designedCircular Innovation: concepts can disappear and return as materials, computing, energy systems, regulation, or market conditions changeInstitutional Stewardship: the value of a long-lived professional society lies in preserving knowledge while creating pathways for the people who will surpass itThemesThis episode treats aerospace history as a living source of perspective rather than a museum of completed achievements. The Royal Aeronautical Society began before powered flight, when even the language of aerial navigation was aspirational. Dave’s account shows how professional communities help difficult questions survive long enough for science, engineering, and society to answer them.A second theme is that technological readiness and human readiness are different. AI may be capable of performing more flight-deck functions, but capability does not automatically create confidence. Trust emerges through evidence, transparency, regulation, experience, and a clear understanding of where responsibility sits when systems make decisions.The conversation also presents innovation as cyclical. Aerospace repeatedly revisits ideas that once exceeded the available technology or business case. What appears new may be an older ambition made practical by better computing, materials, propulsion, navigation, or infrastructure. Recognizing that pattern helps distinguish enduring problems from temporary hype.Finally, Da
- Jul 30, 202642 min
Andrew Broom on Innovation, Safety, and the Future of Business Aviation
Welcome to this episode of What Follows - the podcast where we explore the people shaping aviation today and the ideas defining what comes next.In this episode, host Nate Thuli speaks with Andrew Broom about a career shaped by early exposure to aviation, the guidance of mentors, and a willingness to move between startups, established manufacturers, and industry organizations. Andrew traces the path from the air show that first captured his imagination through flight training, business education, and leadership roles across a rapidly changing aerospace industry.The conversation explores the rise of the very light jet market, the lessons Andrew carried from Eclipse and Hawker, and the engineering philosophy behind HondaJet. Andrew explains why meaningful innovation extends beyond a single aircraft feature: it depends on manufacturing discipline, customer understanding, strong networks, and a safety culture that develops alongside the technology.Nate and Andrew also examine the mission of the National Business Aviation Association, the opportunities and pressures facing business aviation, and the industry’s response to sustainability concerns. They discuss lean startup thinking, artificial intelligence, emerging technologies, and the challenge of introducing new ideas in a sector where reliability and safety remain non-negotiable.The episode closes with a reflection on community. From mentorship and professional networks to gatherings such as EAA AirVenture Oshkosh, Andrew shows how aviation advances when people share experience, create access for newcomers, and remain open to what comes next.This episode was recorded before EAA AirVenture Oshkosh 2026.Key Topics* The air show and early influences that sparked Andrew Broom’s interest in aviation* Meeting aviation heroes, finding mentors, and building a professional network* Flight training, early challenges, and the decision to pursue a business education* Lessons from Eclipse, Hawker, and a turbulent period in the light jet market* Innovation in aircraft design, manufacturing, customer experience, and operations* HondaJet’s unconventional engineering approach and broader culture of innovation* The relationship between technological progress and a strong aviation safety culture* NBAA’s role in advocacy, education, access, and support for business aviation* Current opportunities and structural challenges across the business aviation sector* Sustainability commitments, environmental scrutiny, and the goal of net zero by 2050* Applying lean startup principles within a highly regulated, safety-critical industry* The integration of artificial intelligence and emerging technologies in aviation* Why mentorship, professional associations, and community remain central to the industry* The value of major gatherings such as EAA AirVenture OshkoshResourcesAndrew Broom LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewbroomNBAA Official Website - https://nbaa.orgHondaJet - https://hondajet.comEclipse Jet - https://eclipse.aeroCitation Jet Association - https://citationjet.orgAdditional media courtesy of Honda Aircraft Company, Eclipse Aerospace, and the National Business Aviation Association (NBAA).Guest LinksLinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewbroomNBAA - https://nbaa.org This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit whatfollowspodcast.substack.com
- Jul 16, 20260 min
Meet Kate Broug at AirVenture Oshkosh 2026
If you’re attending EAA AirVenture Oshkosh 2026, join Kate Broug and Nate Thuli on Saturday, July 25, 2026, for a special meet-and-greet at the Airhart Festival Tent.Kate is a pilot, explorer, journalist, documentary filmmaker, and aviation storyteller whose work brings the world of flight to life for audiences around the globe.During this informal conversation, Kate and Nate will discuss aviation, historic aircraft, documentary filmmaking, remarkable adventures, and the stories behind the stories. Kate will also share how aviation storytelling can inspire new audiences to discover flight.The event is free, but seating is limited. Register in advance through the Eventbrite link below or through the link in Kate’s Instagram bio.Register for the Meet-and-GreetSaturday, July 25, 2026, at 10:30 a.m. CDTRegister here:https://airhartmeetkatebroug.eventbrite.comEvent DetailsEvent: Meet Kate Broug — Bringing Aviation to LifeGuest: Kate BrougDate: Saturday, July 25, 2026Time: 10:30 a.m. CDTLocation: Airhart Festival Tent, Booth 439Venue: EAA AirVenture OshkoshAdmission: Free registrationAbout Kate BrougKate Broug is a pilot, explorer, journalist, documentary filmmaker, and aviation storyteller. Through her films, reporting, and global adventures, she shares the people, aircraft, history, and experiences that make aviation compelling.Follow Kate on Instagram for her latest aviation stories, films, and adventures:https://www.instagram.com/katebroug/reels/ResourcesMeet Kate Broug — Event Registrationhttps://airhartmeetkatebroug.eventbrite.comKate Broug on Instagramhttps://www.instagram.com/katebroug/reels/Airhart Aeronautics https://airhartaero.com This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit whatfollowspodcast.substack.com
- Jul 15, 20261 min
Aircraft Financing: Learn from an Industry Insider at EAA AirVenture 2026
If you’re considering buying an airplane, upgrading your avionics, or simply trying to understand how aircraft financing works, this special promo episode of What Follows highlights an upcoming session at the Airhart Oshkosh 2026 Festival Tent.Tripp Thurston, President of FLYING Finance, joins the Airhart Festival Tent program to explain today’s aircraft-lending landscape in plain English. Tripp has helped pilots and aircraft owners finance everything from light-sport aircraft to turbine airplanes.During the session, attendees will learn what lenders are really looking for, how to budget for the true cost of aircraft ownership, and which financing options may be available for aircraft and avionics upgrades. Tripp will also explain why the lowest advertised interest rate is not always the best overall financing deal.Whether you’re a first-time aircraft buyer, an experienced owner, a homebuilder, or someone just beginning your aviation journey, the session will offer practical information you can use.The presentation will conclude with a live audience Q&A.Airhart Oshkosh 2026 Festival Tent Program TicketsAttendance is free, but space is limited.Register using this link or by clicking/tapping the event image below:https://www.eventbrite.com/e/airhart-oshkosh-2026-festival-tent-program-tickets-1992591634217Event DetailsSession: Aircraft Financing: Learn from an Industry InsiderGuest: Tripp Thurston, President, FLYING FinanceDate: Wednesday, July 22, 2026Time: 1:00 PMLocation: Airhart Festival Tent, Booth 439Venue: EAA AirVenture Oshkosh, WisconsinAdmission: Free registrationWhat You’ll Learn* What aircraft lenders consider when reviewing an application* How to calculate the true cost of aircraft ownership* Financing options for aircraft purchases* Financing options for avionics upgrades* Why the lowest interest rate may not be the best deal* Questions to ask before choosing an aircraft loanWho Should Attend* First-time aircraft buyers* Current aircraft owners* Pilots considering an avionics upgrade* Experimental and homebuilt-aircraft owners* Aviation students and future pilots* Anyone interested in understanding aircraft financingResourcesAirhart Oshkosh 2026 Festival Tent Programhttps://www.eventbrite.com/e/airhart-oshkosh-2026-festival-tent-program-tickets-1992591634217EAA AirVenture Oshkosh 2026https://www.eaa.org/airventureEAA AirVenture Ticketshttps://www.eaa.org/airventure/eaa-airventure-ticketsAirhart Aeronautics https://airhartaero.com This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit whatfollowspodcast.substack.com
- Jul 10, 20260 min
Airhart Oshkosh 2026 Festival Tent Program
If you’re listening before July 20, you’re probably getting ready for aviation’s biggest event of the year: EAA AirVenture Oshkosh 2026.In this special promo episode of What Follows, we highlight the Airhart Oshkosh 2026 Festival Tent Program, taking place during AirVenture at EAA AirVenture in Oshkosh, Wisconsin.Visit the Airhart Festival Tent for complimentary educational programming, guest speakers, meet-and-greets, giveaways, hands-on experiences, and Airhart avionics simulator demos. Whether you’re a pilot, student, aviation fan, builder, future flyer, or first-time Oshkosh attendee, this is a chance to connect with people shaping the future of aviation.Airhart Oshkosh 2026 Festival Tent Program TicketsRegister free today and visit the Airhart Festival Tent during EAA AirVenture Oshkosh 2026! Register using this link or by clicking/tapping the image below: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/airhart-oshkosh-2026-festival-tent-program-tickets-1992591634217Event DetailsEvent: Airhart Oshkosh 2026 Festival Tent ProgramLocation: EAA AirVenture, 3000 Poberezny Road, Oshkosh, WI 54902Dates: Monday, July 20 – Sunday, July 26, 2026Time: 10:00 AM – 12:00 PMAdmission: Free registrationProgram HighlightsHands-on Airhart avionics simulator experiencesFree educational programmingLive demos and giveawaysGuest speakers and meet-and-greetsAviation career, training, finance, and technology conversationsProgramming for pilots, students, aviation fans, and future flyersFeatured Guests and ProgrammingFly Our Sim — Book Now, Limited Free SlotsLinda SollarsHayley HerbergAviNationTripp Thurston, President, FLYING FinanceKate BrougDavid Valaer, former fighter pilot and CEO of Green TaxiRelated Airhart Oshkosh EventsAviator Linda Sollars — Adventure Planning: Cross-Country and FartherMonday, July 20 — 1:00 PMMeet Hayley Herberg of Fly With HayleyTuesday, July 21 — 12:00 PMLinda Sollars — Learn About MOSAIC from an InsiderTuesday, July 21 — 2:00 PMAircraft Financing: Learn from an Industry InsiderWednesday, July 22 — 1:00 PMMeet Former Fighter Pilot David Valaer Turned Aerospace ExecutiveThursday, July 23 — 1:00 PMResourcesAirhart Oshkosh 2026 Festival Tent Program — https://www.eventbrite.com/e/airhart-oshkosh-2026-festival-tent-program-tickets-1992591634217EAA AirVenture Oshkosh 2026 — https://www.eaa.org/airventureEAA AirVenture Tickets — https://www.eaa.org/airventure/eaa-airventure-ticketsAirhart Aeronautics — https://airhartaero.com This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit whatfollowspodcast.substack.com
- Jul 10, 202634 min
Ben Klein on Aero, Private Air Travel, and the Future of Urban Mobility
Welcome to this episode of What Follows — the podcast where we explore the people shaping aviation today, and the ideas defining what comes next.In this episode, host Nate Thuli speaks with Ben Klein, CEO of Aero, about his journey from passionate aviator to aviation executive, and how Aero is rethinking private air travel through design, hospitality, safety, and customer experience.Ben discusses how aviation creates freedom, why safety remains the foundation of the industry, and how new technologies may reshape the way people move between cities, airports, and regional destinations. The conversation explores Aero’s approach to premium air travel, the role of regulation in aviation innovation, and the future of urban air mobility, eVTOLs, and door-to-door travel.Nate and Ben also discuss customer trust, the adoption of new aviation technologies, and why the future of flight depends on combining operational discipline with a better travel experience.Key TopicsBen Klein’s aviation journey and passion for flightThe path from pilot to CEOAero’s approach to private and premium air travelBridging the gap between commercial and private aviationCustomer experience and hospitality in aviationSafety protocols and operational disciplineThe role of trust in adopting aviation technologyUrban air mobility and future travel modelseVTOLs and door-to-door transportationRegulatory challenges in aviation innovationTechnology, safety, and customer confidenceThe future of regional and urban air travelTickets to Oshkosh 2026 Festival Tent ProgramClick image or the following link to get tickets to Oshkosh 2026 Festival Tent Program: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/airhart-oshkosh-2026-festival-tent-program-tickets-1992591634217?aff=oddtdtcreatorThemesThis episode focuses on how aviation innovation is shaped not only by aircraft and technology, but by safety, trust, regulation, and customer experience. Ben Klein frames aviation as a form of freedom, while also emphasizing that freedom depends on disciplined operations and a deep commitment to safety.A major theme is the evolution of premium and private air travel. Through Aero, the conversation explores how aviation companies can rethink the passenger experience by combining private-terminal convenience, high-touch hospitality, and operational reliability. The episode also looks ahead to urban air mobility, eVTOLs, and the possibility of more seamless door-to-door travel.ResourcesAero Official Website — https://aero.comFAA Advanced Air Mobility / Air Taxis — https://www.faa.gov/air-taxisFAA Aircraft Certification — https://www.faa.gov/aircraft/air_certJoby Aviation Official Website — https://www.jobyaviation.comHermeus Supersonic Flight Announcement — https://www.hermeus.com/newsroom-content/supersonicHermeus Official Website — https://www.hermeus.comGuest LinksBen Klein on LinkedIn — https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-klein-01b8736Aero — https://aero.comCreditsHost: Nate ThuliMusic: Eugeny BardyuzhaArtwork: Edmond HuotProduced by: Helwing VillamizarAdditional MediaAdditional footage and media courtesy of the featured guests and their respective companies, including Airhart, Draco Aircraft, AviNation, Scaled Composites, and EAA.Follow AirhartVisit Airhart and follow along for new What Follows episodes, clips, and updates.Website: AirhartYouTube: Airhart on YouTubeLinkedIn: Airhart on LinkedInInstagram: <a target="_blank" href="https://lin
- Jul 7, 202654 min
Dick Knapinski on AirVenture Oshkosh and Aviation’s Family Reunion
Welcome to this episode of What Follows - the podcast where we explore the people shaping aviation today, and the ideas defining what comes next.In this episode, host Nate Thuli speaks with Dick Knapinski, Director of Communications of the Experimental Aircraft Association (EAA), about the history, community, and enduring pull of EAA AirVenture Oshkosh. From its beginnings as a small fly-in gathering to its evolution into aviation’s annual global reunion, Dick explains what makes Oshkosh unlike any other event in the world.Dick reflects on why people may arrive for the airplanes, but return for the people. The conversation explores the family traditions, volunteer culture, youth programs, and chance encounters that turn AirVenture into a place where newcomers, builders, pilots, mechanics, enthusiasts, and aviation legends all share the same flight line.Nate and Dick also discuss Young Eagles, KidVenture, aviation accessibility, military aircraft, hands-on education, product discovery, and the forums and workshops that help visitors become more confident aviators. Together, they show why AirVenture is more than an airshow: it is a living aviation city built around belonging, learning, and the freedom to fly.Key Topics* The origins and evolution of EAA AirVenture, from Milwaukee to Rockford to Oshkosh* Why AirVenture has grown into a global gathering for every kind of aviator* Dick Knapinski’s first visit to Oshkosh and his decades on the EAA staff* Why visitors come for the airplanes and return for the people* AirVenture as an intergenerational family tradition and volunteer-driven community* KidVenture, Young Eagles, and creating a first meaningful encounter with flight* Making aviation feel accessible to children, families, and newcomers* Community airports and the value of preserving local access to aviation* Meeting aviation legends and the unexpected encounters that happen at Oshkosh* AirVenture as a major marketplace for aircraft, avionics, upgrades, and aviation services* Military aviation at AirVenture, from Boeing Plaza to rare aircraft experiences* Forums, workshops, and lifelong learning for pilots, builders, and enthusiasts* How to plan an AirVenture visit: the app, the map, the museum, the seaplane base, and more* Volunteer culture, shared stewardship, and making AirVenture your ownTickets to Oshkosh 2026 Festival Tent ProgramClick image or the following link to get tickets to Oshkosh 2026 Festival Tent Program: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/airhart-oshkosh-2026-festival-tent-program-tickets-1992591634217?aff=oddtdtcreatorThemesThis episode centers on AirVenture Oshkosh as a place of belonging. Dick Knapinski presents the event not simply as an airshow or trade gathering, but as a yearly homecoming for aviation: a place where people can find their own community, whether they build airplanes, fly ultralights, restore warbirds, manage a local airport, or are seeing an airplane up close for the first time.A major theme is accessibility. Through Young Eagles flights, KidVenture, family programming, free entry for young people, open conversations with pilots and exhibitors, and hands-on education, the aviation community can lower the psychological barriers that make flight seem distant or inaccessible. The episode argues that a first touch of an airplane, a first flight, or a first conversation with a pilot can shape a lifelong relationship with aviation.Another theme is the balance of heritage and progress. AirVenture brings together vintage aircraft, military history, flight testing, modern avionics, emerging technology, and future-focused education. Its real strength is not choosing between tradition and innovation, but allowing both to live together in a community that keeps learning, sharing, and looking ahead.ResourcesEAA Official Website - https://www.eaa.orgEAA AirVenture Oshkosh - https://www.eaa.org/airventureYoung Eagles Program - https://www.eaa.org/eaa/youth/young-eaglesEAA Aviation Museum - https://www.eaa.org/eaa-museumEAA Chapters - https://www.eaa.org/eaa/eaa-chaptersGuest LinksEAA - http
- Jul 2, 202649 min
David Szondy on AI, Drones, and the Evolution of Aviation Technology
Welcome to this episode of What Follows — the podcast where we explore the people shaping aviation today, and the ideas defining what comes next.In this episode, host Nate Thuli speaks with David Szondy about technological innovation, the burden of being a first mover, and how human competence evolves alongside new tools, systems, and machines.The conversation begins with the history of technology: why breakthrough ideas are often misunderstood at first, how inventions move through cycles of experimentation and refinement, and why storytelling matters when explaining complex technological change. Nate and David also discuss the role of play, curiosity, and problem-solving in shaping the technologies that eventually transform society.The episode then turns to aviation and aerospace, exploring AI, drones, electric propulsion, pilot automation, air traffic management, and the future of accessible flight. David reflects on both the promise and the limitations of emerging technologies, arguing that the future of aviation will depend not only on invention, but on how well people, systems, and institutions adapt to change.Key TopicsFirst mover disadvantage and the challenge of educating the marketThe history of technology and misunderstood inventionsHow human competence evolves alongside new toolsThe role of play, curiosity, and experimentation in innovationThe iterative loop between problems and solutionsWhy storytelling matters in explaining technological changeComplex interactions between history, technology, and societyEmerging trends in aviation and aerospaceAI as a tool for improving pilot performanceThe rise of drones in military and civil aviationElectric propulsion and battery limitationsPilot automation and the future role of pilotsThe democratization of aviation and the flying car debateDecentralized air traffic managementWhy smaller players can drive aviation innovationThemesThis episode explores technology as a living, iterative process rather than a simple line of progress. Nate and David discuss how innovations emerge through trial, failure, play, competition, and storytelling — and how first movers often carry the burden of explaining ideas before the market is ready for them.In aviation, the conversation focuses on the next wave of transformation: AI-assisted pilots, drones, electric propulsion, advanced air mobility, and more decentralized air traffic systems. Rather than presenting technology as a replacement for human skill, the episode frames it as a tool that can expand competence, improve safety, and open new possibilities for flight.ResourcesDavid Szondy — New Atlas Author Profile — https://newatlas.com/author/david-szondy/FAA Unmanned Aircraft Systems — https://www.faa.gov/uasFAA Advanced Air Mobility / Air Taxis — https://www.faa.gov/air-taxisFAA Next Generation Air Transportation System — https://www.faa.gov/nextgenNASA Advanced Air Mobility Mission — https://www.nasa.gov/mission/advanced-air-mobility/NASA Air Traffic Management and Safety Project — https://www.nasa.gov/directorates/armd/aosp/atms/NASA Electrified Powertrain Flight Demonstration Project — https://www.nasa.gov/directorates/armd/iasp/epfd/CreditsHost: Nate ThuliMusic: Eugeny BardyuzhaArtwork: Edmond HuotProduced by: Helwing VillamizarAdditional MediaAdditional footage and media courtesy of the featured guests and their respective companies, including Airhart, Draco Aircraft, AviNation, Scaled Composites, and EAA.Follow AirhartVisit Airhart and follow along for new What Follows episodes, clips, and updates.Website: AirhartYouTube: Airhart on YouTubeLinkedIn: Airhart on LinkedInInstagram: <a target="_blank" href="https://link.sbstck.com/red
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