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B2B buyers want to know the business outcomes they can expect from proposed solutions and the realized value of what they've already purchased. Yet far too few solution providers can articulate value. Value Coffee Talk interviews sales, marketing and customer success leaders about their value programs to discuss the challenges, opportunities and share best practices. Hosted by author and serial entrepreneur Tom Pisello, the ROI Guy, and value expert April Morley, the pair grab a coffee with their guests and dive into the tough questions that need answering in order to drive value success. This show is a service of the Enterprise Value Collective (EVC), a community of business value leaders and practitioners, and independent value consultancy Genius Drive.
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- 4 days ago25 min
Customer-Centric Success: Insights from a veteran Chief Customer Officer
Every vendor now leads with an AI story. Far fewer can prove what that AI actually delivered.In this episode of Value Coffee Talk, Jim Richmond, veteran Chief Customer Officer at Smartling, joins us to unpack the widening gap between AI promises and proven outcomes, and what customer-facing leaders must do to close it. Jim makes the case that buyers are no longer impressed by capability demos. They want to know which metric moved, by how much, and whether the result holds at renewal.The conversation gets practical: how to quantify outcomes that were actually delivered rather than modeled, how to keep the customer at the center of the narrative instead of the product, and why curiosity beats defensiveness when a customer starts questioning your AI claims. Jim also challenges the reflex to answer pain with features, arguing that CS teams earn their seat by diagnosing the business problem first.For CROs, Value Leaders, and Customer Success executives under pressure to defend AI investments, this is a working session on turning promises into proven value.
- 1 weeks ago26 min
Consulting and Services – Evolving Business Models in the AI Era
Ninety-seven percent of B2B buyers now use AI search as part of how they evaluate solutions. That single shift is quietly rewriting the economics of every service business built on selling expertise by the hour.In this episode, Jon Erickson, a veteran Forrester analyst, joins us to unpack what AI actually changes for consultancies, agencies, and professional services firms, and what it does not. The short version: AI compresses the cost of producing insight, but it raises the premium on trust. Clients can generate an answer in seconds. What they still cannot generate is confidence that the answer is right, defensible, and grounded in data they believe.Jon and I get into the harder questions most firms are avoiding. If AI is a force multiplier, what happens to a business model priced on effort? Where does a consultancy add value once the analysis is commoditized? And why do the firms winning right now treat AI as a continuous experiment rather than a tooling decision?If you lead a services business, or you sell into one, this conversation will give you a clearer read on where the durable value sits.
- 2 weeks ago32 min
Harnessing AI for Value Automation: Strategies and Risks
AI has made the build option look almost free. A few prompts, a weekend, and you have something that resembles a value calculator. What you don't have is a methodology, a maintained model, a governance trail, or a seller who trusts the number in front of the CFO.In this episode of Value Coffee Talk, we dig into the build versus buy decision for value automation in the AI era. Vikas Mundada, a community favorite and value leader for Ping Identity, joins us to unpack why the hard part was never the math, why frameworks and structure determine whether AI produces credible value or confident noise, and what total cost of ownership really looks like once you account for maintenance, enablement, and trust.What you'll take away:• Why AI amplifies the quality of your value framework rather than replacing it• Where homegrown tools quietly break: model drift, adoption, and no one left to own it• The training and certification gap that stalls most AI rollouts• How to compare TCO honestly, including the costs that never show up in the build estimate• Where value automation management is heading, and what to stand up nowIf your team is debating whether to build your own value engine, listen before you commit the sprint.Sound bites• "Frameworks make AI work better."• "Get your team certified on AI tools."• "Outcomes matter more than hypotheses."
- May 14, 202621 min
CRO Spotlight: Leveraging Value for 65% CAGR Growth
In this episode of Value Coffee Talk, host Thomas Pisello speaks with Ken Powell about the remarkable growth journey of K1X and the evolving role of business value in today’s SaaS and AI-driven economy. The conversation explores how organizations can move beyond product-centric selling to focus on measurable outcomes, customer adoption, and long-term value creation in increasingly competitive and rapidly changing markets.Ken shares insights on outcome-based buying, AI transformation, and the importance of embedding value into customer workflows to drive engagement, retention, and scalable revenue growth. The discussion also highlights leadership strategies for navigating change, accelerating adoption, and staying adaptable in an era where speed, curiosity, and customer impact are becoming critical competitive advantages.Key TopicsK1X’s growth journey and SaaS scaling strategiesEmbedding business value into customer workflows and salesOutcome-based buying and the shift toward measurable valueDriving adoption and engagement in SaaS and AI environmentsLeadership, adaptability, and navigating rapid market change.
- May 7, 202629 min
Mastering Seamless Sales: Strategies for Modern Decision-Making
In this insightful interview, host Tom Pisello interviews sales transformation expert and author Art Fromm, to explore how modern buying decisions are increasingly shaped by risk perception, stakeholder alignment, and the growing complexity of enterprise sales. The pair dive into how organizations can create more seamless, collaborative sales experiences that reduce friction, improve buyer confidence, and ultimately drive stronger quota attainment and customer success outcomes.Topics include the impact of risk perception on decision-making, engineering influence within the buying process, the importance of cross-functional sales collaboration, and practical strategies revenue leaders can use to improve sales effectiveness in today’s challenging market.Key TopicsHow risk perception shapes modern buying decisionsReducing friction through seamless, collaborative sales experiencesThe growing complexity of stakeholder alignment in enterprise salesCross-functional collaboration between sales, engineering, and customer successPractical strategies to improve quota attainment and customer outcomes
- Apr 15, 202632 min
Beyond the Harbor Tour: How Pre-Sales Wins with Outcomes, Not Features
In this episode of the Value Coffee Talk Podcast, Tom Pisello, the ROI Guy, speaks with Michael McDowell, the “Demo-tainer” and author of Demo-tainment, about how pre-sales and solution engineering are evolving in an AI-driven world. The pair discuss why human connection still matters, how to avoid boring product demos, why outcomes should lead the conversation, and how sales engineers can expand from proving technical fit to proving business value.HighlightsWhy “Demo-tainment” helps make demos more engaging, memorable, and humanHow AI is changing pre-sales, and why SEs need to become more human, not lessWhy the best pre-sales professionals will use AI to amplify their impact, not resist itHow to avoid the “harbor tour” and focus demos on what matters most to the buyerWhy less is more in demos, because too many features dilute perceived valueHow outcome-first demos create stronger customer connection than feature-first walkthroughsWhy the future of pre-sales combines technical expertise, business acumen, and presentation skill.
- Apr 8, 202625 min
From Promised to Proven - Scaling Post-Sales Value Realization
In this episode of the Value Coffee Talk Podcast, Tom Pisello, the ROI Guy, is joined by Gaurav Sharma, Product Leader for Value Tools and AI Systems at ServiceNow, to explore one of the most important shifts in go-to-market strategy: post-sales value realization. The discussion focuses on how organizations can move beyond selling value to actually proving it, using embedded product telemetry, instrumentation, and data-driven insights. Gaurav shares a practical framework for operationalizing value across teams, aligning product metrics to business outcomes, and enabling customer success to tell stronger, outcome-based stories.HighlightsWhy most companies are good at selling value but struggle to prove it post-saleHow telemetry and instrumentation enable continuous tracking of realized outcomesWhy value realization is a credibility problem, not just a tooling problemThe importance of aligning product metrics to business outcomes and success metricsHow benchmarking against peers strengthens value conversations and customer engagementWhy storytelling is still required, even with dashboards and dataHow consistent value taxonomy aligns sales, marketing, and customer success
- Mar 25, 202629 min
Mastering Negotiation: The Four Levers Every Seller Should Know
Negotiation in today’s market is no longer about pressure tactics or last-minute discounts. Buyers are more informed, pricing transparency is higher, and trust plays a bigger role in purchasing decisions than ever before. To succeed, sellers must take a more structured and collaborative approach to negotiation.In this podcast, host Tom Pisello, the ROI Guy, explores the four key levers of negotiation outlined by sales expert and bestselling author Todd Caponi. These levers help sellers move negotiations away from simple price concessions and toward mutually beneficial value exchanges.The four levers are volume, timing of cash, length of commitment, and timing of the deal. Each provides an opportunity to create value for both the buyer and the seller when used thoughtfully. Instead of negotiating only on price, effective sellers use these levers to structure agreements that align incentives, improve predictability, and strengthen long-term partnerships.Understanding and applying these negotiation levers can help sales professionals build greater trust with buyers, improve deal outcomes, and avoid common mistakes such as offering discounts without receiving meaningful commitments in return.Soundbites"Transparency and trust build better deals""Use the four drivers to reduce discounts""Market wisdom determines value pricing"TakeawaysNegotiation today requires transparency, collaboration, and a focus on mutual value.The most effective negotiations move beyond price and leverage multiple dimensions of value.Volume can justify better pricing when customers commit to larger purchases or broader adoption.Timing of cash can create value through faster payments or improved cash flow.Length of commitment provides revenue predictability and can justify pricing incentives.Timing of the deal helps create planning certainty for both the buyer and seller.Sellers should avoid giving discounts without receiving something meaningful in return.Structured negotiation frameworks help build trust and lead to better long-term outcomes.
About Value Coffee Talk
B2B buyers want to know the business outcomes they can expect from proposed solutions and the realized value of what they've already purchased. Yet far too few solution providers can articulate value. Value Coffee Talk interviews sales, marketing and customer success leaders about their value programs to discuss the challenges, opportunities and share best practices. Hosted by author and serial entrepreneur Tom Pisello, the ROI Guy, and value expert April Morley, the pair grab a coffee with their guests and dive into the tough questions that need answering in order to drive value success. This show is a service of the Enterprise Value Collective (EVC), a community of business value leaders and practitioners, and independent value consultancy Genius Drive.
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