The Spillover

A Job Beats a Handout + Why the World Bank Is Betting Everything on Employment

June 19, 2026·42 min
Episode Description from the Publisher

In this episode of The Spillover, host Sebastian Mallaby and CFR President Michael Froman speak with former U.S. Commerce Secretary Gina Raimondo and World Bank President Ajay Banga about the global jobs challenge facing millions of young people in emerging markets.    Hosts:   Sebastian Mallaby, Paul A. Volcker Senior Fellow for International Economics, Council on Foreign Relations (CFR)   Michael Froman, CFR President   Guests:   Gina Raimondo, Distinguished Fellow, CFR; Former U.S. Secretary of Commerce (2021–2025)   Ajay Banga, President, World Bank Group   Want to keep up with The Spillover? Sign up to receive an email alert when new episodes are released.   The Spillover is a production of the Council on Foreign Relations. The opinions expressed on the show are solely those of the hosts and guests, not of the Council, which takes no institutional positions on matters of policy.

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