060: With a Little Help from My Friends: A Conversation with Lee Rosenbaum

Asking for help is human. Figuring out how to show up for one another is the harder part. Shep Rosenman sits down with Lee Rosenbaum for a candid, wide-ranging exchange about holding multiple identities, including being Black and Jewish, and what happens when the promise of solidarity collides with the realities of polarization and antisemitism. Drawing on personal family stories, civil-rights roots, and legal and cultural perspectives, they ask what empathy demands of us, especially when it’s hardest to offer. Along the way, they find room for humor, joy, and the sacred possibilities of everyday work. Woven through the conversation is “Need Some Help,” the song that started it all, which was itself inspired by Psalm 121, and a question that connects prayer to action: How do we move from asking for help to becoming a source of it?