
What do we save when we may never come home? Shep Rosenman sits down with Allison Lee to explore how a deeply personal song he wrote with Liz Hanellin in the shadow of the January 2025 Palisades fires, became an urgent warning about extremism. They discuss the choices that shaped the song. Their conversation moves through evacuation, memory, and inheritance: Torah scrolls, prayer books, wedding contracts, family photographs, and the irreplaceable things we reach for when time runs out. Together, Shep and Allison examine Psalm 83 as both prophecy and warning, the seductive appeal of certainty and binaries, and the challenge of transforming personal pain into art that serves others. Ultimately, they ask how communities can survive fear without sacrificing nuance, empathy, or moral imagination. A powerful conversation about fire, faith, identity, and choosing to build rather than destroy.
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