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by Dr. Danny Matta, PT, DPT, OCS, CSCS, & Entrepreneur
The PT Entrepreneur Podcast with Danny Matta brings you interviews and insights from top physical therapy business owners. Topics range from starting and running a cash physical therapy practice to creating digital products and even physical products. The PT Entrepreneur Podcast gives you an inside look of the minds and businesses of some of the most successful physical therapists today. No empty fluff.... just actionable, helpful information you can use TODAY.
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- 2 days ago41 min
Ep971 | From One CrossFit Gym to 4 PT Locations with Ben Moore
What does it take to grow a cash-based physical therapy practice from a single treatment room inside a CrossFit gym into a multi-location business? In this episode of the PT Entrepreneur Podcast, PT Biz head coach Courtney Morse sits down with Ben Moore, founder of Evo Performance Therapy in Nashville, Tennessee, to discuss his journey from traditional outpatient physical therapy to building a thriving practice with three standalone clinics and one satellite location. Ben shares how he started his business in 2018 with a portable treatment table, a rented room, and strong relationships within the local CrossFit community. He explains the early financial challenges, how gym partnerships helped generate patients, and why learning to properly price and package his services nearly doubled his monthly revenue. They also discuss the transition from gym-based treatment spaces to standalone clinics, hiring and developing clinic directors, creating repeatable systems, and maintaining a consistent patient experience across multiple locations. Ben shares his vision for expanding beyond traditional rehabilitation into wellness and longevity, including serving active older adults and developing long-term patient relationships. Whether you're considering opening your first cash-based practice or working toward multiple locations, this conversation offers practical lessons on business growth, leadership, hiring, and building a clinic that can operate beyond the owner. In This Episode, You'll Learn How Ben started Evo Performance Therapy inside a CrossFit gym in 2018 Why traditional outpatient PT wasn't meeting the needs of his active patients How coaching and gym relationships helped generate his first patients The pricing and packaging changes that nearly doubled his monthly revenue Why Evo expanded geographically before adding another PT at its original location How standalone clinics helped Evo strengthen its brand and attract a broader patient population The leadership, hiring, and operational challenges of managing multiple locations Why documenting systems and processes early makes scaling easier How Evo is expanding its focus into wellness, longevity, and active aging Ben's biggest advice for physical therapists considering practice ownership Key Takeaway You don't need a perfect business plan, an expensive facility, or years of experience to start a successful cash-based physical therapy practice. Ben Moore started Evo Performance Therapy with a portable treatment table and a room inside a CrossFit gym. By building relationships, improving his pricing, hiring the right people, and developing repeatable systems, he grew the business into multiple locations. Start with what you have, deliver excellent care, and build the systems that allow your clinic to grow beyond you. Technology Spotlight Documentation continues to be one of the biggest frustrations for physical therapists. Claire is an AI scribe built specifically for PTs that dramatically reduces documentation time, allowing clinicians to focus on patient care instead of paperwork. Try Claire free for 7 days Free Resource Ready to start your own cash-based physical therapy practice? The free PT Biz Part-Time to Full-Time 5-Day Challenge helps you determine your income replacement goal, calculate the patient volume and pricing needed to go full-time, and build a practical business plan. Join the Free PT Biz Challenge Already running a clinic? Take the free Clinic Growth Blueprint Assessment to identify your biggest opportunities and receive a customized 90-day growth plan. Take the Clinic Growth Blueprint Assessment PT Biz Training YouTube Get more practical training on starting, growing, and scaling a cash-based physical therapy practice, including patient acquisition, pricing, hiring, leadership, and building systems that create time and financial freedom. Watch PT Biz Training on YouTube Connect Evo Performance Therapy Evo Performance Therapy Instagram Ben Moore Instagram Physical Therapy Biz
- 4 days ago18 min
Ep970 | Using Social Media For Your Clinic Without It Consuming You
Social media can be one of the most effective ways to grow a cash-based physical therapy clinic, but it can also become one of the biggest distractions in your life. In this episode of the PT Entrepreneur Podcast, Danny Matta shares how clinic owners can use Instagram to attract new patients, build trust, and generate conversations without spending every evening and weekend glued to their phones. After noticing how many parents were scrolling through their phones at his daughter's volleyball game, Danny reflected on his own experience constantly responding to messages and managing social media while trying to build his business. He breaks down a practical approach to social media marketing for physical therapists, including showing what happens inside your clinic, creating educational content for your ideal patients, and using direct messages to generate new appointments. Danny also explains why setting boundaries around DMs, batching content, delegating conversations, and building your clinic's business brand are essential for creating a practice that can grow without depending on your constant attention. In This Episode, You'll Learn Why Instagram matters for cash-based PT patient acquisition How to create simple content by documenting your clinic Why educational posts should focus on your ideal patients How Google Business Profile supports the patient buying process Setting boundaries around DMs without abandoning potential leads Using delegation and automation to reduce social media workload Why building your clinic's brand creates more long-term business value Key Takeaway You don't need to spend hours scrolling, posting, and responding to messages to grow your cash-based PT clinic. Focus on showing potential patients what your clinic does, sharing helpful content for your niche, and creating opportunities for meaningful conversations. By establishing clear boundaries, delegating responsibilities, and prioritizing your business brand, you can use social media to generate patients without sacrificing your time and attention. Technology Spotlight Documentation continues to be one of the biggest frustrations for physical therapists. Claire is an AI scribe built specifically for PTs that dramatically reduces documentation time, allowing clinicians to focus on patient care instead of paperwork. Try Claire free for 7 days Free Resource Want to start your own cash-based physical therapy practice? The free PT Biz Part-Time to Full-Time 5-Day Challenge helps you determine your income replacement goal, calculate the patient volume and pricing needed to replace your income, and create a practical plan for transitioning into full-time practice ownership. Join the Free PT Biz Challenge Already running a clinic and looking for your next growth opportunity? Take the free Clinic Growth Blueprint Assessment to identify your biggest opportunities and receive a customized 90-day growth plan. Take the Clinic Growth Blueprint Assessment PT Biz Training YouTube Get more practical training on starting, growing, and scaling a cash-based physical therapy practice, including patient acquisition, marketing, hiring, and building systems that create time and financial freedom. Watch PT Biz Training on YouTube Connect Physical Therapy Biz PT Biz Training YouTube
- 1 weeks ago41 min
Ep969 | From Bookkeeping to Cash-Based PT with Michele Mannino
What does it take to build a successful cash-based physical therapy practice when owning a clinic was never part of your original plan? In this episode of the PT Entrepreneur Podcast, host Courtney Morse sits down with Michele Mannino, owner of Summit PT and Performance in Stowe, Vermont, to discuss her unconventional journey from business school and bookkeeping to building a thriving cash-based PT clinic. Michele started her practice with mobile visits and a folding treatment table before moving into a spin studio, then a small gym space, and eventually expanding into a multi-clinician practice. She shares how Summit grew by hiring clinicians with different specialties, building strong community relationships, and introducing small group training as a recurring revenue opportunity. With two full training groups and a third launching, Summit has created a way for patients to continue progressing beyond traditional rehabilitation. Michele also explains how her bookkeeping background helped her understand KPIs, identify seasonal trends, and make better business decisions. She discusses delegating discovery calls, empowering her clinicians, and creating a schedule that gives her more freedom to enjoy skiing, mountain biking, and time with friends and family. From exceeding an ambitious revenue goal to celebrating Summit's fifth anniversary, Michele's story demonstrates how a cash-based PT practice can grow without requiring the owner to personally handle every part of the business. In This Episode, You'll Learn How Michele went from bookkeeping to cash-based PT ownership Starting a practice with mobile visits and minimal overhead Hiring specialized clinicians and building a strong team culture Creating recurring revenue through small group training Using KPIs and financial data to make better decisions Delegating discovery calls and daily clinic responsibilities Growing a profitable practice while protecting personal time Key Takeaway Building a successful cash-based physical therapy practice doesn't require having everything figured out from the beginning. Michele started with a folding treatment table and a few patients, then gradually expanded by hiring great clinicians, developing specialized services, and creating recurring revenue opportunities. By understanding her numbers, empowering her team, and staying connected to her community, she's built a business that creates meaningful patient outcomes while giving her greater flexibility and freedom. Technology Spotlight Documentation continues to be one of the biggest frustrations for physical therapists. Claire is an AI scribe built specifically for PTs that dramatically reduces documentation time, allowing clinicians to focus on patient care instead of paperwork. Try Claire free for 7 days Free Resource Thinking about starting your own cash-based physical therapy practice? The free PT Biz Part-Time to Full-Time 5-Day Challenge helps you determine your income replacement goal, calculate the patient volume and pricing you need, and create a practical plan for transitioning into full-time practice ownership. Join the Free PT Biz Challenge Already running a clinic and looking to scale? Take the free Clinic Growth Blueprint Assessment to identify your biggest opportunities and receive a customized 90-day growth plan. Take the Clinic Growth Blueprint Assessment PT Biz Training YouTube Get more practical training on starting, growing, and scaling a cash-based physical therapy practice, including patient acquisition, hiring, recurring revenue, financial management, and building systems that create time and financial freedom. Watch PT Biz Training on YouTube Connect Summit PT and Performance Summit PT and Performance on Instagram Physical Therapy Biz PT Biz Training YouTube
- 1 weeks ago30 min
Ep968 | Expanding Your Cash-Based Clinic (Real Case Study)
Is the cheapest commercial space actually the best option for your cash-based physical therapy clinic? In this episode of the PT Entrepreneur Podcast, Danny Matta breaks down a real-world clinic expansion case study involving a growing, multi-clinician cash-based practice evaluating two potential locations. One option offers 3,500 square feet with lower rent but requires approximately $350,000 in construction and equipment financing. The other offers 2,900 square feet with higher rent but significantly lower upfront costs. Danny walks through the numbers, comparing monthly payments, financing costs, lease terms, and long-term profitability. He also explains how the larger facility could support approximately $600,000 more in annual revenue and $150,000 in additional potential profit. You'll learn why the lowest rent doesn't always mean the best deal, how to evaluate debt when expanding your practice, and what to consider before signing a commercial lease that could impact your business for the next decade. For the full financial breakdown and visual comparison of both locations, watch this episode on the PT Biz Training YouTube channel. In This Episode, You'll Learn When it's time to expand your cash-based PT clinic Comparing commercial leases beyond monthly rent How construction costs and financing affect profitability Why clinic capacity matters more than square footage alone Evaluating debt, lease terms, and long-term financial risk How to choose a space that supports profitable growth Key Takeaway The best clinic expansion isn't necessarily the one with the lowest rent or smallest upfront investment. It's the location that provides the greatest opportunity for profitable growth without putting the business at unnecessary financial risk. Before signing a lease, evaluate total occupancy costs, financing, revenue capacity, and realistic growth projections. A decision that looks cheaper today could limit your business for the next decade. Technology Spotlight Documentation continues to be one of the biggest frustrations for physical therapists. Claire is an AI scribe built specifically for PTs that dramatically reduces documentation time, allowing clinicians to focus on patient care instead of paperwork. Try Claire free for 7 days Free Resource Thinking about starting your own cash-based physical therapy practice? The free PT Biz Part-Time to Full-Time 5-Day Challenge helps you determine your income replacement goal, calculate the patient volume and pricing you need, and create a practical plan for transitioning into full-time practice ownership. Join the Free PT Biz Challenge Already running a clinic and looking to scale? Take the free Clinic Growth Blueprint Assessment to identify your biggest opportunities and receive a customized 90-day growth plan. Take the Clinic Growth Blueprint Assessment PT Biz Training YouTube Get more practical training on starting, growing, and scaling a cash-based physical therapy practice, including clinic expansion, hiring, profitability, and building systems that create time and financial freedom. Watch PT Biz Training on YouTube Connect Physical Therapy Biz PT Biz Training YouTube
- 2 weeks ago44 min
Ep967 | Laurel Boyd: Scaling a Cash-Based PT Practice
What does it take to grow a cash-based physical therapy practice from a part-time side hustle into a thriving business with eight team members? In this episode of the PT Entrepreneur Podcast, host Courtney Morse sits down with Laurel Boyd, owner of Athlete's Edge Physical Therapy in Austin, Texas, to discuss her journey from treating patients in their homes to leading a growing multidisciplinary team. Laurel started Athlete's Edge in January 2022 while working full-time in traditional outpatient physical therapy. After experiencing burnout early in her career, she discovered the cash-based PT model, joined the PT Biz Clinical Rainmaker program, and began building her practice through mobile visits and grassroots marketing. Today, Athlete's Edge operates from a 3,500-square-foot facility, has eight team members, and has nearly doubled its revenue over the past year. Laurel shares how she developed valuable referral partnerships with local gyms, recruited talented clinicians, navigated the challenges of hiring and expanding, and learned to build systems that support a growing practice. She also discusses preparing for maternity leave, delegating discovery calls and administrative responsibilities, transitioning away from patient care, and developing the leadership skills needed to create a business that doesn't depend entirely on its owner. In This Episode, You'll Learn How Laurel went from mobile PT to an eight-person team Building referrals through local gyms and community relationships Hiring great clinicians and creating a strong team culture Navigating the challenges of scaling a cash-based clinic Delegating responsibilities and building better systems Transitioning from treating patients to leading as a CEO Key Takeaway Building a scalable cash-based physical therapy practice requires different skills at every stage. Laurel started Athlete's Edge with mobile visits, a small treatment space, and a commitment to building relationships. As the practice grew, her focus shifted toward hiring, systems, delegation, and leadership. The biggest lesson is that sustainable growth doesn't come from the owner doing everything. It comes from developing a team and creating systems that allow the business to thrive without depending on you for every decision. Technology Spotlight Documentation continues to be one of the biggest frustrations for physical therapists. Claire is an AI scribe built specifically for PTs that dramatically reduces documentation time, allowing clinicians to focus on patient care instead of paperwork. Try Claire free for 7 days Free Resource Thinking about starting your own cash-based physical therapy practice? The free PT Biz Part-Time to Full-Time 5-Day Challenge helps you determine your income replacement goal, calculate the patient volume and pricing you need, and create a practical plan for transitioning into full-time practice ownership. Join the Free PT Biz Challenge Already running a clinic and looking to scale? Take the free Clinic Growth Blueprint Assessment to identify your biggest opportunities and receive a customized 90-day growth plan. Take the Clinic Growth Blueprint Assessment PT Biz Training YouTube Get more practical training on starting, growing, and scaling a cash-based physical therapy practice, including patient acquisition, hiring, leadership, and building systems that create time and financial freedom. Watch PT Biz Training on YouTube Connect Athlete's Edge Physical Therapy Athlete's Edge Physical Therapy on Instagram Physical Therapy Biz PT Biz Training YouTube
- 2 weeks ago26 min
Ep966 | Are My Clinic Ads Working?
Are your Facebook ads actually working, or are you wasting money trying to generate new patients for your cash-based physical therapy practice? In this episode of the PT Entrepreneur Podcast, Danny Matta breaks down a real Meta advertising case study from a clinic inside the PT Biz Mastermind. The clinic spent $1,674 on a $97 running evaluation campaign and generated $11,358 in front-end revenue, producing a 6.78x return on ad spend. Despite those results, the owner was considering shutting down the campaign because the staff was frustrated with a lower-than-expected plan-of-care conversion rate. Danny explains why that would have been a mistake, how to evaluate the numbers that actually matter, and why improving your sales process can sometimes generate more revenue than increasing your advertising budget. He also discusses the difference between referral patients and paid advertising leads, the importance of patient lifetime value, and how The Compounding Clinic model helps turn new patient acquisition into sustainable growth. In This Episode, You'll Learn How a cash-based PT clinic generated $11,358 in revenue from $1,674 in Meta advertising spend Why a 6.78x return on ad spend almost went unnoticed The two key marketing benchmarks PT Biz uses to evaluate advertising performance Why approximately 60% of leads should attend an evaluation and 50% of evaluations should convert into plans of care How referral patients differ from people who discover your clinic through Facebook or Instagram ads Why improving your plan-of-care conversion rate may be more valuable than generating additional leads How to identify marketing bottlenecks without making emotional decisions Why a 3x to 4x front-end return can still support a successful marketing strategy How patient lifetime value, recurring revenue, and the Stability Layer contribute to The Compounding Clinic Why digital advertising should complement your local marketing and referral systems How paid advertising can help fill a staff physical therapist's schedule Why clinic owners need to continuously monitor and refine their marketing systems Key Takeaway Don't judge your paid advertising by lead volume, staff frustration, or one disappointing conversion metric. Evaluate the entire process from advertising spend to patient revenue. A campaign can be profitable even when there's room for improvement. Identify the biggest bottleneck, improve that part of your system, and use patient lifetime value to make smarter marketing decisions that support long-term clinic growth. Technology Spotlight Documentation continues to be one of the biggest frustrations for physical therapists. Claire is an AI scribe built specifically for PTs that dramatically reduces documentation time, allowing clinicians to focus on patient care instead of paperwork. Try Claire free for 7 days Free Resource Want to know exactly what you should focus on to grow your physical therapy practice? Take the free PT Biz Clinic Growth Blueprint Assessment to identify your biggest growth opportunities and receive a customized 90-day action plan. Take the Free Clinic Growth Blueprint Assessment Thinking about starting your own cash-based practice? The free PT Biz Part-Time to Full-Time 5-Day Challenge helps you determine your income replacement goal, pricing, patient volume, and the steps needed to transition into full-time ownership. Join the Free PT Biz Challenge PT Biz Training YouTube This episode includes a detailed advertising case study with performance metrics and conversion benchmarks. Danny recommends watching the video version to follow the numbers visually. Get more practical training on patient acquisition, marketing, sales, and scaling your cash-based physical therapy practice. Watch PT Biz Training on YouTube Connect Physical Therapy Biz PT Biz Training YouTube PT Biz Part-Time to Full-Time Challenge
- 3 weeks ago49 min
Ep965 | Michael Sclafani: From CrossFit Kitchen to PT Clinic
What does it take to build a successful cash-based physical therapy practice when you're starting from scratch in a city where you don't know anyone? In this episode of the PT Entrepreneur Podcast, host Courtney Morse sits down with Michael Sclafani, owner of Tideline Sports Performance and Rehabilitation in Sarasota, Florida, and a coach inside the PT Biz Clinical Rainmaker program. Michael shares how he launched Tideline in 2020 from a kitchen inside a CrossFit gym, generated 11 evaluations from his first injury screening event, and moved into a standalone clinic within six months. They discuss grassroots marketing, discovery calls, creating an exceptional patient experience, hiring your first employees, and the challenges of transitioning from full-time clinician to business owner. Michael also shares how he navigated losing multiple employees, learned to delegate responsibilities, and built a business alongside his wife, Ashley. The episode concludes with a live Q&A covering patient acquisition, building referral relationships, and managing the emotional ups and downs of entrepreneurship. In This Episode, You'll Learn How Michael started a cash-based PT practice inside a CrossFit gym without an established patient base How his first Meet the Doc injury screening event generated 11 evaluations Why grassroots marketing and local relationships are essential when starting a PT practice How to structure discovery calls that uncover patients' deeper motivations and goals Why the PT Biz Three-Step Process helps patients understand the value of cash-based care When to hire your first administrative employee and physical therapist How to delegate responsibilities without sacrificing the patient experience What Michael learned from losing multiple employees and returning to a heavy treatment schedule Why treating five to ten patients per week can be a good balance for a growing clinic owner How to create clear responsibilities and boundaries when running a business with your spouse Why taking imperfect action is more valuable than waiting until everything is perfect How to build trust with referral partners and manage the emotional challenges of entrepreneurship Key Takeaway You don't need a perfect facility, an established referral network, or years of business experience to start a successful cash-based physical therapy practice. Michael built Tideline by taking action, developing relationships, creating a strong patient experience, and gradually building the systems and team needed to grow. The key is to start before everything feels perfect, prioritize patient acquisition, and develop the leadership skills that allow your business to grow beyond your personal treatment schedule. Technology Spotlight Documentation continues to be one of the biggest frustrations for physical therapists. Claire is an AI scribe built specifically for PTs that dramatically reduces documentation time, allowing clinicians to focus on patient care instead of paperwork. Try Claire free for 7 days Free Resource Ready to start your own cash-based physical therapy practice? The free PT Biz Part-Time to Full-Time 5-Day Challenge helps you determine your income replacement goal, understand your pricing and patient volume needs, and create a practical plan for transitioning into full-time ownership. Join the Free PT Biz Challenge Already running a clinic? Visit Physical Therapy Biz and take the free Clinic Growth Blueprint Assessment to identify your biggest opportunities and get a customized 90-day growth plan. Take the Clinic Growth Blueprint Assessment PT Biz Training YouTube Get more practical training on starting, growing, and scaling a cash-based physical therapy practice. Watch PT Biz Training on YouTube Connect Tideline Sports Performance and Rehabilitation Tideline Sports Performance on Instagram Physical Therapy Biz PT Biz Training YouTube
- 3 weeks ago18 min
Ep964 | What Nick Saban Can Teach You About Running a Clinic
Are you spending too much time focusing on your clinic's revenue goals instead of the work that actually drives growth? In this episode of the PT Entrepreneur Podcast, Danny Matta shares a powerful business lesson inspired by legendary college football coach Nick Saban and his approach to winning. After learning to focus less on the scoreboard and more on executing the details of each play, Saban developed a coaching philosophy built around small, consistent actions. Danny explains how cash-based physical therapy clinic owners can apply this same mindset to their businesses. Instead of obsessing over revenue targets, patient volume, or long-term growth goals, the key is identifying the most important work you can control and executing it consistently. You'll learn why working harder doesn't always produce better results, how to identify what's actually holding your clinic back, and why the right coaching and business systems can help you build sustainable momentum. In This Episode, You'll Learn What Nick Saban's coaching philosophy can teach physical therapy clinic owners about business growth Why focusing too heavily on revenue goals can distract you from the work that actually matters How the concept of winning six seconds at a time applies to running a cash-based PT practice Why setting goals and executing the daily actions required to achieve them are two different things How to separate your emotions from short-term business outcomes Why working hard on the wrong things can keep your clinic stuck How to identify whether marketing, sales, hiring, or operations is your biggest constraint Why visionary entrepreneurs often struggle with the repetitive details of running a business How business coaching can help you prioritize the right work at the right time Why small, consistent improvements create long-term momentum in your clinic Key Takeaway Stop measuring your daily success solely by revenue, patient volume, or how close you are to your long-term goals. Those numbers are the scoreboard, not the work itself. Sustainable cash-based PT practice growth comes from identifying the right priorities, improving the systems you can control, and consistently executing the actions that move your business forward. Focus on winning the next six seconds, and let the results follow. Technology Spotlight Documentation continues to be one of the biggest frustrations for physical therapists. Claire is an AI scribe built specifically for PTs that dramatically reduces documentation time, allowing clinicians to focus on patient care instead of paperwork. Try Claire free for 7 days Free Resource Not sure what you should be working on to grow your clinic? Visit Physical Therapy Biz and take the free Clinic Growth Blueprint Assessment to identify your biggest opportunities and get a customized 90-day growth plan. Take the Free Clinic Growth Blueprint Assessment If you're working toward transitioning into full-time cash practice ownership, the free PT Biz Part-Time to Full-Time 5-Day Challenge can help you clarify your income goals, pricing, patient volume, and next steps. Join the Free PT Biz Challenge PT Biz Training YouTube Get more practical training on starting, growing, and scaling a cash-based physical therapy practice. Watch PT Biz Training on YouTube Connect Physical Therapy Biz PT Biz Training YouTube
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