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Untold stories. Real impact. The PM Podcast features raw, personal conversations with changemakers reshaping our world—from nonprofit leaders to grassroots heroes. Hear stories of tragedy and triumph, grief and grace, love and laughter. Whether you lead a mission-driven organization or just care deeply about your community, you’ll find inspiration in every episode. Hosted by Jay Frost. Produced by Jack Frost. Powered by DonorSearch.
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- Today59 min
Papa's Mattering Notes: A Conversation with Bill Crouch, Founder and CEO of BrightDot
Bill Crouch is the founder and CEO of BrightDot, a nationally recognized fundraising strategist, speaker, author, and former college president. For more than 40 years, Bill has worked in higher education leadership, philanthropy, and nonprofit advancement. He began his fundraising career at Gardner-Webb University, Baptist Children’s Homes of North Carolina, and Carson-Newman University before serving for 22 years as president of Georgetown College, retiring from the presidency in 2013. He then joined Jerold Panas, Linzy & Partners as Senior Managing Partner. In 2015, he left the firm to found BrightDot, where he helps organizations strengthen donor relationships and build cultures of generosity. Bill earned his bachelor’s degree from Wake Forest University and master’s and doctoral degrees from Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary. A former trustee and Honorary Fellow of Regent’s Park College, Oxford, he is also the author of Start with Heart and the new book Mattership. In this episode, we trace Bill’s journey from childhood to what he calls “the fourth quarter” of his life — from ministry to the college presidency to national leadership in philanthropy and fundraising. Our conversation begins with the story of his tight-knit family, a neighborhood tragedy, and the conversation with his father that shaped the course of his life.
- 1 weeks ago1h 32m
Think Bigger: A Conversation with Michael Wyland, Owner/Partner at Sumption & Wyland
Michael Wyland is a nonprofit governance expert, consultant, executive coach, writer, and partner in Sumption & Wyland. For more than four decades, Michael has worked across government, business, healthcare, and the nonprofit sector. His career has taken him from Capitol Hill and the oil and gas industry to nonprofit leadership, strategic planning, board governance, executive coaching, and organizational consulting. Michael has advised more than 100 nonprofit associations and charities, worked with dozens of hospitals and healthcare organizations, and presented more than 200 workshops, seminars, and keynote addresses. He also wrote more than 400 articles and features for The Nonprofit Quarterly, where he served as a consulting editor and editorial advisory board member. In this episode, we talk about Michael’s path from his newspaper route to a career in nonprofit consulting, the challenges of board leadership, and what his relationships with philanthropist T. Denny Sanford and his step-grandmother Margaret Towsley taught him about wealth, responsibility, and legacy.
- 2 weeks ago1h 28m
Preacher's Son: A Conversation with Derric Bakker, CEO of DickersonBakker
Derric Bakker is founder and CEO of DickersonBakker, fundraising strategist, consultant, speaker, and author of A Better Way to Fundraise: Treat Every Donor Like a Major Donor. For more than three decades, Derric has helped nonprofit organizations strengthen their fundraising, leadership, strategy, and capacity for impact. What began almost by chance with his first fundraising position in 1990 grew into a career spanning frontline development, major gifts, capital campaigns, organizational leadership, and consulting. Today, Derric leads a national team of more than 50 professionals serving nonprofits across the country. He is also a leading advocate for reimagining relationship-based fundraising by using AI and emerging technologies to extend the principles of major gift fundraising across the entire donor base. In this episode, we talk about Derric’s journey from his childhood as an itinerant pastor’s son to the McDonald’s breakfast that changed his future trajectory, the work in fundraising that shaped his professional life, and his thoughts on living a life of purpose.
- 3 weeks ago1h 10m
Bravo Box: A Conversation with Christal M. Cherry, Founder of The Board Pro and creator of Fabulous Female Fundraisers.
Christal M. Cherry is the founder of The Board Pro, speaker, consultant, author, and creator of Fabulous Female Fundraisers. With more than 20 years in the nonprofit sector, Christal has become a leading voice on board leadership, fundraising, equity, and belonging. Through The Board Pro, she helps nonprofit boards lead with love, courage, and strategy — whether that means navigating tough conversations, recruiting stronger board members, interrupting bias, or helping CEOs breathe again. Christal is also the founder of Fabulous Female Fundraisers, a network uplifting Women of Color in the nonprofit sector, and the author of the children’s book Mac and Cheez: Being Different is Okay. In this episode, we talk about Christal’s journey from New York to Atlanta and from Wall Street to nonprofit leadership, and explore the major events that have shaped her life and work.
- Jun 26, 202623 min
Older, Cooler Kids: A Conversation with Rohan Dileep and Beatrice Norman, co-presidents of Meals Matter, Recipient of the 2026 William R. Simms Award for Outstanding Youth in Philanthropy
Rohan Dileep and Beatrice Norman are co-presidents of Meals Matter, the Wisconsin-based, student-led nonprofit honored with the 2026 William R. Simms Award for Outstanding Youth in Philanthropy. Meals Matter began in 2024, when two Middleton High School students saw the scale of food insecurity in their community and decided to do something about it. What started as a grassroots food-collection effort now includes chapters across Wisconsin, Texas, and even South Korea. As co-presidents, Rohan and Beatrice help coordinate large-scale food drives, recruit and manage student volunteers, build community partnerships, engage younger students, lead outreach, and speak publicly about the urgency of food insecurity and the power of youth leadership. Recorded live in the Exchange at AFP ICON 2026, this conversation explores how Meals Matter grew from a local student project into a multi-chapter movement.
- Jun 20, 202637 min
Answering All The Questions: A Conversation with Jen Newmeyer, Recipient of the 2026 AFP/Skystone Partners Prize for Research on Fundraising and Philanthropy
Jen Newmeyer, CFRE is senior director of digital fundraising strategy at PBS, founder of CharityJen, author of Digital Fundraising Transformation, and recipient of the 2026 AFP/Skystone Partners Prize for Research on Fundraising and Philanthropy. Jen has spent more than 20 years helping nonprofits modernize fundraising programs, strengthen donor engagement, grow audiences, and build more sustainable strategies for the digital age. At PBS, she leads national digital fundraising strategy and transformation efforts supporting more than 150 member stations across the country. Before joining PBS, Jen directed digital membership at WHYY, led integrated fundraising at PBS North Carolina, and built the first comprehensive digital fundraising and engagement program at the Food Bank of Central & Eastern North Carolina, where online revenue grew from $150,000 to more than $1 million annually. She has raised more than $10 million online, managed multimillion-dollar budgets, led teams, presented nationwide, served on three AFP chapter boards, launched a podcast, published a newsletter, and written two books on digital fundraising transformation. Recorded live in the Exchange at AFP ICON 2026, this conversation explores Jen’s path into fundraising, why digital strategy still lags, and how nonprofits can build more integrated, experimental, and resilient fundraising programs.
- Jun 13, 202629 min
Silver Tsunami: A Conversation with Tatumn Zale, AFP's 2026 Outstanding Young Professional
Tatumn Zale, CFRE is assistant director of development at AllThrive 365 and one of AFP’s 2026 Outstanding Young Professionals. Tatumn has quickly built a reputation as a creative, disciplined, and deeply human fundraising leader. At AllThrive 365, she has helped revitalize donor communications, rebuild fundraising events, strengthen corporate partnerships, and grow both recurring and individual giving — including a 131% increase in individual giving in just one year. She now manages $6 million in annual grant revenue, has increased event sponsorship revenue by 233%, secured major gifts, and expanded practical in-kind partnerships serving low-income seniors. Tatumn is also the co-founder of Kindling Impact Consulting which works with small to mid-sized nonprofits. Recorded live in the Exchange at AFP ICON 2026, this conversation explores Tatumn’s journey into fundraising, how theater and sales helped shape her presence, storytelling, and connection with donors, how caring for a family member has informed her work with older adults, and what the coming silver tsunami means for philanthropy, nonprofits, and the future of care.
- Jun 5, 202633 min
Winner's Mindset: A Conversation with Amari Duncan, AFP's 2026 Outstanding Young Professional
Amari Duncan is director of philanthropic impact at Girls Inc. of the Greater Capital Region and one of AFP’s 2026 Outstanding Young Professionals. Although she entered the fundraising profession only four years ago, Amari has quickly built a record as a strategic, mission-centered, and community-rooted advancement leader. At United Way of the Greater Capital Region, she managed more than 40 corporate partnerships, helped rebuild Emerging Leaders United, and mobilized more than 1,500 volunteers across nine counties. Since joining Girls Inc. in 2023, she has led non-grant fundraising, modernized the advancement program, launched new signature events, and helped more than double philanthropic support. She is now helping lead Girls Inc.’s first capital campaign in more than 40 years. Amari also serves in a community leadership role with KIPP Capital Region and Albany Academy for Girls, where she became the youngest and first Black woman to serve as president of the Alumnae Council. Recorded live in the Exchange at AFP ICON 2026, this conversation explores Amari’s path from sports to fundraising, the role of mentorship, and how a winner’s mindset has set her on a course for success.
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Untold stories. Real impact. The PM Podcast features raw, personal conversations with changemakers reshaping our world—from nonprofit leaders to grassroots heroes. Hear stories of tragedy and triumph, grief and grace, love and laughter. Whether you lead a mission-driven organization or just care deeply about your community, you’ll find inspiration in every episode. Hosted by Jay Frost. Produced by Jack Frost. Powered by DonorSearch.
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