
What if the messiness of life isn’t an obstacle to making art, but the very material itself? In this re-issued conversation from our archives, we sit down with New York Times bestselling poet and author Maggie Smith (Good Bones, Dear Writer). Together, we explore what happens when you dismantle the dividing wall between art and everyday life, the discipline of staying in solitude rather than catering to an audience, and how learning to trust your own instincts becomes the ultimate safety net for a sustainable creative life.
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Madison Cunningham on letting go of work, shifting ambition, and subconscious burner accounts.

Jim James on the illusion of arrival, healing the internal workhorse, and alien-mandated therapy.

Brandy Clark on standing out, surviving self doubt, and friendship bracelets.

Rodney Crowell on letting go of recognition, 40-year songs, and talking to trees.
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