The New Yorker Radio Hour

Why Is Leaving MAGA So Difficult?

November 25, 2025·22 min·5-min readnarrativepolitics
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Rich Logis, a former MAGA true believer and activist, recounts his journey from fervent Trump supporter to founder of Leaving MAGA, a platform for those exiting the movement. His story underscores the emotional and psychological grip of political extremism and the possibility of redemptio

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Rich Logis

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Rich LogisDavid RemnickAdam HowardRon DeSantisDonald TrumpJohn McCainJeffrey EpsteinJason RiddleJames HicksStefania

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LeavingMAGA.org

Topics

Criminal JusticeInequalityLong Form JournalismMental HealthRacial JusticeTrue CrimeUs Politics

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