
In this episode of The Insurgent Mindset, we sit down with Julie Toma to explore why innovation often dies inside established organizations, how boards can either accelerate disruption or completely block it, and why curiosity, courage, and psychological safety are becoming essential leadership traits in a rapidly changing world. Julie shares insights from her experience across healthcare, marketing leadership, governance, and board strategy — unpacking everything from AI adoption and customer disruption to why fear of failure quietly destroys growth cultures from the inside out.We also dive into the changing role of modern marketing leaders, the growing importance of customer insight and strategic curiosity, and why the best organizations are actively “seeing around corners” before competitors do. This conversation is essential listening for executives, founders, board directors, marketers, and leaders trying to navigate uncertainty without becoming obsolete.Connect with Julie on LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/julietoma/--Hosted by seasoned strategy consultants Matt Tice and Rondo Moses, with a combined 50 years of experience, this podcast will challenge you to transcend the status quo and reshape how you think about and approach competing in the business marketplace. Learn more at www.insurgencegroup.com. Subscribe to “The Insurgent Mindset” on Apple Podcasts, Spotify Podcasts or Youtube, and visit us as www.insurgencegroup.com to learn more. Have questions or topics you’d like us to cover in a future episode? Email us at theinsurgentmindset@gmail.com. This podcast is hosted by Matt Tice & Rondo MosesProduced by Faith MoavenzadehOriginal Music by Caius Tice
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