The Architecture of Learning, Storytelling, and Challenger Thinking with Jamie Engel | Episode 34

What if the future of learning isn’t about better content—but better design? In this episode, Jamie Engel, founder of Neutopia, breaks down the “architecture of learning” and why most organizations get it wrong. Drawing from a career spanning film, storytelling, and education, he reveals how the convergence of platform, program, and people creates transformational learning experiences—and why storytelling is the most underrated leadership skill in modern business.This conversation explores how leaders can build true learning organizations, harness AI without losing critical thinking, and create cultures driven by curiosity, community, and adaptability. From the hero’s journey as a framework for education to the role of emotion in decision-making, this episode challenges conventional thinking and offers a new blueprint for designing experiences that actually change people—and organizations—for the better.Learn more about Neutopia here: https://neutopia.co/Connect with Jamie here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jamielengel/--Hosted by seasoned strategy consultants Matt Tice and Rondo Moses, with a combined 50 years of experience, this podcast will challenge you to transcend the status quo and reshape how you think about and approach competing in the business marketplace. Learn more at www.insurgencegroup.com. Subscribe to “The Insurgent Mindset” on Apple Podcasts, Spotify Podcasts or Youtube, and visit us as www.insurgencegroup.com to learn more. Have questions or topics you’d like us to cover in a future episode? Email us at theinsurgentmindset@gmail.com. This podcast is hosted by Matt Tice & Rondo MosesProduced by Faith MoavenzadehOriginal Music by Caius Tice