The Good, The Bad & The Rugby: Australia & New Zealand

11 Men, 1 iPhone & a Famous Win: Wallabies Stun the Boks 42-38

September 28, 2026·25 min
Episode Description from the Publisher

The Wallabies beat the Springboks 42-38 in Perth, and they finished the game with only 11 men on the field. Andy is joined by Wallaby Jeremy Paul and former All Black Justin Marshall for a quick reaction to one of the strangest Test matches ever played. JP is thrilled and a bit shaken. Marshy calls Andy out for jumping on the bandwagon. The boys look at Len Ikitau's world-class return at 13, the TMO comms failure that had the referee taking calls on a mobile phone, and four Wallabies in the bin at once. They also cover Rassie's call to bring on eight replacements together, Harry Wilson's captaincy and choice to take the points, and why the Boks couldn't use a four-man advantage to win it. Marshy gives his common-sense fix for refereeing without a TMO. Plus Fraser McReight's big game, and a look ahead to the Bledisloe Cup opener at Eden Park. Chapters 00:00 – Intro: the Wallabies' famous 11-man win 00:38 – Marshy calls out Andy's bandwagoning 01:28 – Suaalii on the wing and Len Ikitau's class at 13 03:26 – The elephant in the room: TMO failure and "phone-gate" 04:39 – Four in the bin: were the yellow cards fair? 06:51 – Sympathy for referee Andrea Piardi 09:11 – Free-to-air exposure and a huge sporting weekend 11:04 – Why not just use the touch judges? 12:43 – Perth as the 2027 World Cup opener and Rassie's eight-man bench change 13:40 – Marshy's fix: refereeing without a TMO 15:19 – How the delays affected the game 17:07 – "Were you cooked?" JP on 42-17 becoming 42-38 17:30 – Set piece, the red zone and Harry Wilson taking the points 19:38 – Beating the blitz, and where the Boks went wrong with a four-man advantage 22:14 – Fraser McReight: "a player and a half" 23:19 – Next up: Bledisloe Cup at Eden Park Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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