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The Good, The Bad & The Rugby, featuring All Blacks legend Justin Marshall, World Cup winning Wallaby Jeremy Paul, Wallabies superstar James O'Connor and kiwi podcaster Andy Rowe. Bringing you the latest rugby news, stories and much more from down under.
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Secure your entire digital life with Surfshark. Go to https://surfshark.com/gbr or use code GBR at checkout to get 4 extra months of Surfshark! Four tests, four weeks, 49 players — and the All Blacks come home 3-1 down. Kieran Read and Jeremy Paul are back in studio with Andy to work out what actually separated the two sides, and whether the gap is as big as the scoreline says.JP returns from a holiday that involved two kids in hospital, eleven days in Bali and the Jonah Lomu premiere — including the small matter of the try Jonah took off him in the 2000 Bledisloe. Kieran breaks down the blueprint from test one that the All Blacks couldn't repeat: parity at set piece, holding the line, and taking the pressure without giving away the penalties that let the Springboks kick their way up the park. Eight penalty goals to zero across the series tells its own story. Then it gets loud. Andy reads out All Blacks assistant coach Neil Barnes' post-match comments on the refereeing, and JP launches into a full-blooded rant about the new brake foot ruling at scrum time — why he thinks it's dangerous, what referees should actually be looking at, and the simple fix nobody in World Rugby has landed on. Plus: the selection calls that didn't land, Reuben Love and Cam Roigard as the long-term 9-10, whether Ardie Savea is being used properly, Jordie Barrett's claim as the world's best 12, Ethan Blackadder's return, and JP making the case that a Les Kiss Wallabies side beats the Springboks in Perth — and then the All Blacks at Eden Park. Gallagher Fearless Player of the Week: Eben Etzebeth.Brought to you by Gallagher — your trusted insurance broker, backing the show and backing the game.Shopify: You don’t need anyone’s approval to make a living. Build your own business with a free trial at shopify.com.au Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Secure your entire digital life with Surfshark — get 4 extra months free: https://surfshark.com/gbr (code: GBR) | 30-day money-back guarantee Four months in a hospital bed. Four screws in his spine. Eighteen kilos gone. And the first thing the doctors told him was that he might never walk again. All Blacks and Crusaders prop Tamaiti Williams sits down with Andy and Kieran Read for his most open interview yet on the illness that stopped his season dead. Not an injury — an illness. An MRSA superbug that settled in his back and, as he puts it, burned him out from the inside like a tree on fire. He takes us through the night he was rolling around in 10-out-of-10 pain arguing with his wife not to go to hospital, the spinal fusion, coming off morphine, the panic attacks, and where his comeback actually sits right now (no date — but he’s been cleared to run, with day one of pre-season in November). Then Tamaiti puts his front-row hat back on to break down the Springbok scrum: what makes Ox Nché so hard to hold, why mindset is half the battle, and why he’d meet fire with fire rather than run from it. Justin Marshall joins live from South Africa after the third Test at Soccer City — a Test he reckons was the real decider. Marshy on where the game slipped away, what Dave Rennie said to him at full-time, and a firm answer to the question everyone’s asking: are the All Blacks in danger of becoming rugby’s version of Bazball? Plus what has to happen in Baltimore. Brought to you by Gallagher Insurance — your trusted insurance broker, backing the show and backing the game. ───────────────────────────── 📑CHAPTERS 00:00 — Intro 01:08 — "What actually happened?" — Tamaiti on the injury that wasn't an injury 01:57 — 10 out of 10 pain, and the superbug they couldn't identify 02:49 — Four screws, a fused spine & "a tree burning from the inside" 03:45 — "One of the first things they told me is I might be in a wheelchair" 04:36 — Fading away: 140kg down to 122kg in hospital 05:11 — Morphine, coming off the meds & the panic attacks 07:07 — The road back: no date, just six-week blocks 08:08 — Cleared to run — day one pre-season, November 09:47 — Can it come back? 10:14 — Front-row masterclass: what makes Ox Nché so hard to stop 13:13 — A word from Surfshark 14:58 — How do the All Blacks get parity with that Springbok scrum? 17:23 — Pancaking, hinging & painting good pictures for the ref 19:07 — Where the third Test was lost: turnovers & Ruben Love's yellow 20:32 — Leroy Carter targeted: Kriel and de Allende going at his left shoulder 22:20 — Fearless Player of the Week, brought to you by Gallagher 23:45 — 12-all at half time — then the game slowed right down 25:27 — Giving the Springboks credit: why champions dictate 26:10 — Cutting out the errors that kill momentum 28:27 — Line-out speed & the breakdown: where the game is won or lost 29:06 — Justin Marshall live from South Africa: inside Soccer City 31:28 — Regroup: what the All Blacks do with the series on the line 35:08 — Personnel or game plan? Marshy on what Rennie changes 37:47 — "Are we in danger of being rugby's version of Bazball?" 41:10 — What happens in Baltimore: persevere and believe 43:06 — Outro ───────────────────────────── 📩 GOT A QUESTION FOR THE LADS? Email the team at: info@goodbadrugby.com ───────────────────────────── 📲 FOLLOW THE GOOD, THE BAD & THE RUGBY AUSTRALIA & NEW ZEALAND YouTube: @GoodBadRugbyANZ IG: https://www.instagram.com/goodbadrugbyanz TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@goodbadrugby Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/goodbadrugbyanz Linktree: https://linktr.ee/goodbadrugbyanz ───────────────────────────── #GBR #TheGoodTheBad&TheRugbyANZ #RugbyUnion Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
The All Blacks lost the second test in Cape Town but were they actually that bad? Andy Rowe is joined by former All Blacks captain and two-time Rugby World Cup winner Kieran Read to break down a game that turned on two minutes at the start and an aerial battle the All Blacks still can't win. Read explains the untidy exit that had New Zealand seven points down inside two minutes, why the Springboks changed their defensive picture (14 in the line, nobody hunting the ruck) and what that means for the way the All Blacks attack. Plus the accuracy numbers: South Africa took 4.8 points from every 22 entry, New Zealand just 2.8 from nine. There's the 2009 parallel (Matfield, box kicks and the series that changed how New Zealand played the game) and why the All Blacks are still catching high balls the old-school way. Pieter-Steph du Toit's 100th test. Then there's Rassie. The suit and tie, the team sheet handed over half an hour before kickoff, the F-bombs in the press conference and the complaint that the All Blacks are planting seeds in the media (from the man who put out an hour-long video on the referees during the Lions series). Read's take: "coaches have been doing this for a long time, but Rassie is the absolute king of it." Plus the scrum row it all came from: "we're not walking around, we're scrumming." And what changes for the third test, including Sam Darry, a six-two bench and where Rieko Ioane fits. Over the Tasman, the Wallabies win 27-21 in Argentina, Les Kiss loosens the structure, and Joseph-Aukuso Suaalii starts on the bench — would you put him on the All Blacks wing to catch our high balls? This episode is brought to you by Gallagher Insurance, your trusted insurance broker. The Gallagher Fearless Player of the Week goes to Leroy Carter. Subscribe for weekly rugby chat from Justin Marshall, Kieran Read, Jeremy Paul and Andy Rowe. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
The All Blacks have gone to Ellis Park and won five tries to one and Marshy was standing in the middle of it. This week Andy is joined by Justin Marshall live from Johannesburg, still dusty, still 30 years on from '96, and Kieran Read in studio after a 3am alarm and a duvet on the couch with his boy. They break down how the All Blacks were under the pump for 40 minutes and still walked off with a scoreline that flattered them, the three unnoticed effort plays that swung the whole test, and why nobody in that squad celebrated like the job was done. Then Marshy finally does some homework and brings in former Springbok World Cup winning captain John Smit, who watched from the stands next to Francois Louw. He's honest about what he saw, the scrum that should have won it, the unforced errors he hasn't seen from this Springbok side in years, and what Rassie might do in Cape Town. He also explains what this tour has done to South Africa: green shirts every Friday, nothing getting done, and for the first time in the country's broadcasting history, more people watching rugby than football. Plus: the points-per-22-entry stat the coaches are obsessed with, why Fabian Holland has become crucial, whether George Bower has forced a start, and a proper appreciation for Matt Carley telling the TMO no. The Fearless Player of the Week is brought to you by Gallagher, your trusted insurance broker — backing the show and backing the game. Three tests to go. How good. ───────────────────────────── 📑CHAPTERS 00:00 Welcome — Marshy in Joburg, Reado in studio 00:58 "The most amazing feeling" — Marshy at Ellis Park 02:48 3am alarm, duvet on the couch, watching with the boy 04:11 Why this tour has brought back the old-school tours 06:07 The 1996 generation gap (and the frosted tips) 07:50 Why the All Blacks didn't celebrate 08:39 Under the pump — how were we only one point down? 10:10 The points the Springboks left out there 12:33 The three effort plays that swung the test 13:08 Jordie Barrett's hand of God 14:57 Altitude, fatigue and a spongy Ellis Park 16:20 Fearless Player of the Week, brought to you by Gallagher 18:12 The 22-entry stat the coaches are obsessed with 21:21 Why the Bok ball carriers are so hard to stop 23:40 GUEST: Springbok World Cup winning captain John Smit 25:47 Smit on the first half: "the scoreboard didn't reflect it" 28:05 What can Rassie actually change for Cape Town? 29:52 Do the Boks go back to the old formula? 32:44 "It's psychotic" — what this series is doing to South Africa 37:10 Respect for the haka: the quietest Ellis Park's ever been 38:58 Smit's message to the Boks: "we haven't become a bad team in one day" 40:56 Reacting to Smit — a nation in mourning 41:20 "We've stuck our foot all the way in their house" 42:47 Why Andy still isn't confident 44:18 Fabian Holland's engine and Tupou Vaa'i at lock 45:51 The front row — does Bower start in Cape Town? 48:42 The Lions game and managing bodies through the tour 49:41 Matt Carley, the TMO, and letting the game flow 53:49 Wrap ───────────────────────────── 📩 GOT A QUESTION FOR THE LADS? Email the team at: info@goodbadrugby.com ───────────────────────────── 📲 FOLLOW THE GOOD, THE BAD & THE RUGBY AUSTRALIA & NEW ZEALAND YouTube: @GoodBadRugbyANZ IG: https://www.instagram.com/goodbadrugbyanz TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@goodbadrugby Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/goodbadrugbyanz Linktree: https://linktr.ee/goodbadrugbyanz ───────────────────────────── #GBR #TheGoodTheBad&TheRugbyANZ #RugbyUnion Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Justin Marshall joins us live from Pretoria, three tour games deep, one week out from Ellis Park and the mood in South Africa is exactly as cocky as you'd fear. Andy, Kieran Read and Marshy get into the arrogance ("if the All Blacks draw the series, that's a result for THEM"), why South African rugby is booming from schoolboy level up, and the recruitment problem that's got them worried about 13-year-olds on retainers. Then the serious business: how the All Blacks are actually tracking after three from three, the injury watch on Will Jordan, Cam Roigard and Damian McKenzie, the loose forward puzzle, whether lineout height should be driving selection, why Argentina handed us the blueprint for beating the Boks and why a Springbok side that's short of minutes might be more vulnerable at altitude than anyone's saying. Plus the Gallagher Fearless Player of the Week ───────────────────────────── 📑CHAPTERS 00:00 Intro — Marshall live from Pretoria 01:28 "Can the All Blacks beat the Springboks?" — the arrogance question 03:09 Cape Town to the Highveld: what the crowds are like 03:45 The Crusader who reckoned altitude was no problem 04:59 Why South African rugby is absolutely fizzing 06:58 What NZ can learn — NPC crowds and grassroots passion 08:41 The lost art of the tour 09:22 Is South Africa now ahead of us on depth? 11:33 13-year-olds on retainers: South Africa's recruitment worry 13:11 Three from three — how are the All Blacks tracking? 13:26 Injury watch: Will Jordan, Cam Roigard, Damian McKenzie 14:40 Managing a 44-man squad, and Rennie's "not satisfied" message 16:56 Finding the width: the attacking blueprint 18:24 Beating the blitz — why unpredictability is everything 20:35 The loose forward puzzle: Segner, Lakai, Tupou Vaa'i at 6 22:06 6-2 bench, and three wingers for two spots 24:13 Should lineout height decide selection? 25:52 Gallagher Fearless Player of the Week: Ruben Love 29:58 Kolisi out — who jackals for the Boks now? 30:40 Segner's answer to the Kirifi debate 33:01 Are the Springboks undercooked? 35:25 The prep gap — and why Read isn't buying it 36:25 Argentina handed us the blueprint 37:48 Altitude, fatigue and the hurt locker 40:28 The mental side of altitude: "your body says you can't go on" 42:39 Slowing the game down, and what a captain can do about it 44:17 Final word: "This All Blacks team can beat the world champions" 46:17 Outro ───────────────────────────── 📩 GOT A QUESTION FOR THE LADS? Email the team at: info@goodbadrugby.com ───────────────────────────── 📲 FOLLOW THE GOOD, THE BAD & THE RUGBY AUSTRALIA & NEW ZEALAND YouTube: @GoodBadRugbyANZ IG: https://www.instagram.com/goodbadrugbyanz TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@goodbadrugby Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/goodbadrugbyanz Linktree: https://linktr.ee/goodbadrugbyanz ───────────────────────────── #GBR #TheGoodTheBad&TheRugbyANZ #RugbyUnion Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
30 years ago the All Blacks won their first test series on South African soil. Andy Rowe sits down with two men who were there: Frank Bunce and Justin Marshall. They relive the 1992 return tour after apartheid, the intimidation of Ellis Park, Jonah Lomu's 1995 World Cup, and the week in Pretoria where Sean Fitzpatrick told the team: "There's no way we're going to Ellis Park with the series on the line." Plus: the Michael Brial fight, the famous "too old, too slow, two tries" headline, Bunce's legendary partnership with Walter Little, why the All Blacks haven't settled a midfield since Ma'a Nonu and Conrad Smith, and whether this All Blacks side can win the series again. Subscribe for weekly rugby chat from Justin Marshall, Kieran Read, Jeremy Paul and Andy Rowe. 00:00 Intro: two members of the '96 All Blacks in studio 00:28 1992: the first tour back after apartheid 02:19 Danie Gerber: greatest centre ever? 03:56 Ellis Park: walking into the lion's den 07:31 1995: Jonah Lomu changes rugby forever 11:58 Running out for the '95 World Cup final and Mandela 14:25 Turning the page to the 1996 tour 15:13 The midweekers: why a squad of 36 won the series 17:03 Tri Nations battles and Bunce's winner in Brisbane 19:28 "We win it in Pretoria" — Fitzpatrick's message 22:16 Facing that Springbok side 24:07 John Preston, Zinzan's drop goal and the pivotal moments 26:23 The goal-line stand 28:40 The toughest Springboks Bunce ever faced Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
The All Blacks squad to tour South Africa is out and the boys have questions. Seven wingers but no out-and-out fullback, only three halfbacks, five injury-prone locks, and Damian McKenzie named at first five but destined for the back field. Justin Marshall and Kieran Read drop into what it's actually like touring the Republic: altitude, boot parties, beer cans at the bus, and why four Tests in a row is like playing four finals. Plus: Ethan Blackadder back from the wilderness, how to build the loose trio around Ardie Savea, the unlucky ones (Du'Plessis Kirifi, Noah Hotham), what happens if Richie Mo'unga gets the call, and how you even prep a squad for games every three days. ───────────────────────────── 📑CHAPTERS 00:00 Intro 00:31 First reactions to the squad 02:31 Seven wingers — so who plays fullback? 04:12 Only three halfbacks: Ratima on the bench all tour? 05:02 George Bell and the fourth hooker call 06:31 The lock stocks: injury concerns 08:04 Bench impact — matching the Bomb Squad 10:20 6-2 split or backline flexibility? 15:18 Ethan Blackadder back from the wilderness 17:44 We need our best ball carriers carrying 20:13 Harvey Norman Next Gen Moment: Timoci Tavatavanawai 22:07 The unlucky ones: Kirifi & Hotham 25:44 What the selectors want from their loose forwards 30:54 Building the game plan around Ardie Savea 34:05 The Josh Jacomb surprise 36:48 What if Richie Mo'unga gets the call? 37:58 Playing in South Africa: altitude & atmosphere 41:46 Touring the Republic: boot parties & hospitality 44:52 Games every three days — how do you prep? 46:48 Where should the Test team play? Tour strategy 49:11 First Test excitement & why the timing is perfect 50:26 Wrap-up ───────────────────────────── 📩 GOT A QUESTION FOR THE LADS? Email the team at: info@goodbadrugby.com ───────────────────────────── 📲 FOLLOW THE GOOD, THE BAD & THE RUGBY AUSTRALIA & NEW ZEALAND YouTube: @GoodBadRugbyANZ IG: https://www.instagram.com/goodbadrugbyanz TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@goodbadrugby Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/goodbadrugbyanz Linktree: https://linktr.ee/goodbadrugbyanz ───────────────────────────── #GBR #TheGoodTheBad&TheRugbyANZ #RugbyUnion Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
The All Blacks put Ireland to the sword at Eden Park and Justin Marshall and Jeremy Paul aren't holding back, calling out the Irish for blaming the ref instead of themselves. Marshy and JP break down the Tupou Vaa'i blindside masterstroke, the bench that's finally delivering "championship minutes", the Luke Jacobson TMO call that got common sense right, and whether Quinn Tupaea at 13 is the answer heading into South Africa. Then James O'Connor joins the show, fresh off the Mad Monday that saw him sleep through last week's episode, to reveal he's told Les Kiss he's available for the Wallabies, why the spine is costing Australia games, and where Joseph Aukuso Sua'ali'i really should be playing. CHAPTERS 00:00 Intro — JOC's no-show & Mad Monday stories 05:00 All Blacks dismantle Ireland at Eden Park 06:13 The Tupou Vaa'i blindside call 09:14 Bench impact & championship minutes 12:20 Set piece stepping up a level 13:35 Were Ireland tired — or just beaten? 17:58 "A pack of whingers" — Ireland's excuses 21:05 The Jacobson yellow card & a TMO masterclass 25:16 Hooker debate — who starts in South Africa? 31:26 Quinn Tupaea at 13: the answer at centre? 36:54 Harvey Norman Moment of the Week 39:12 Wallabies set piece & Josh Canham's lineout learnings 42:34 Tizzano, Harry Wilson & the captaincy question 48:02 James O'Connor joins the show 50:33 Back to club footy with Brothers 53:06 JOC on the Wallabies' spine & game management 56:41 Joe Schmidt's legacy & the Les Kiss era 59:28 Where Sua'ali'i should really play 1:02:20 Wrap-up Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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