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- 1 weeks ago59 min
The Next Battle In DeFi Lending Is What's Inside Your Vault | DeFi Frontier
David Reising is the Founder of Lotus."Aave compresses risk. Morpho isolates it. Lotus clears it."In this episode, David walks through why avoiding bad debt has become DeFi lending's biggest self-imposed constraint and how Lotus's connected tranches, cascading liquidity, and productive debt unlock a yield curve that neither Aave nor Morpho can offer.According to David, the next battle in DeFi lending is what's inside your vault, and Lotus is the answer.------💎 THIS EPISODE'S SPONSORS🔒 KPK | Best risk-adjusted yield through automated vaults🏙 MAINSTREET | Bringing proven TradFi yield strategies to DeFi markets🟠 APYX | The first dividend-backed stablecoin (DBS)🏦 ALTURA | Bringing the yield institutions kept, to your wallet🕛 NOON | The highest and safest stablecoin yield, built for the long term👻 MANTLE | Aave V3 is live on Mantle🐡 PUFFER INSTITUTIONAL | ETH staking solutions for scale⚔️ KATANA | Deep liquidity & real yield⚙️ GEARBOX PROTOCOL | Onchain lending reimagined------⏱️ TIMESTAMPS0:00 - Intro2:22 - The team behind Lotus3:45 - The problem with shared pool design like Aave7:23 - The “missing middle” in DeFi lending9:31 - The problem with isolated markets like Morpho11:17 - What does Lotus aim to solve in DeFi lending?13:40 - The elevator pitch for Lotus19:54 - How tranching plays a role in Lotus24:00 - Demo of Lotus and BTC market curve explained28:56 - Credora credit ratings and what value they add to Lotus31:01 - How tranche-level risk ratings figure into Lotus Vaults33:19 - Earning more consistent yield with Lotus productive debt37:52 - How productive debt dampens rate volatility39:50 - Will productive debt become table stakes in DeFi?42:13 - How Lotus differs in how it handles bad debt45:08 - Vault managers, curators, neobanks, and who else will use Lotus48:04 - What use cases could Lotus unlock?50:49 - Security: Audits, SEAL certification, and lessons from rsETH exploit57:02 - Closing + Lotus launch in summer 2026------🔗 GUEST LINKS► Lotus website: https://www.lotuslabs.net/► Lotus on X: https://x.com/LotusFi_► David Reising on X: https://x.com/davidareising------🎙️ MORE FROM THE EDGE PODCAST AND EDGE NEWSLETTER► Newsletter: https://the-edge.xyz► Apple: https://tinyurl.com/edgepod► Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/edgepodspotify► Linktree: https://linktr.ee/edge_pod► Follow DeFi Dad: https://x.com/DeFi_Dad► Follow Nomatic: https://x.com/Nomaticcap► Learn DeFi: http://defidad.com/------DISCLAIMER: Nothing said on The Edge Podcast is a recommendation to buy or sell tokens or securities. This content is for educational and entertainment purposes only. Nothing shared here is financial advice. Any views expressed by hosts or guests on the show are solely their opinions. Always do your own research. DeFi Dad, Nomatic, and guests may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast. DeFi Dad and Nomatic have been advising Lotus during their pre-launch phase.
- 2 weeks ago43 min
Rysk: How to Earn Stablecoin Yield with DeFi Options in 1-Click | DeFi Frontier
Daniele Ugolini is the CoFounder at Rysk.DeFi options have failed repeatedly. Ribbon, Opyn, and a long list of protocols shut down or pivoted. Rysk almost joined them, over two years ago they had no product and were close to quitting.In this new episode of DeFi Frontier, Dan walks through how Rysk rebuilt from zero to $60M TVL in under a year by solving the one thing every previous options protocol got wrong: making it simple enough for anyone to actually use. He demos how users on Rysk use cash secured puts and covered calls, explains why 90% of users roll over their positions every Friday, and addresses the criticism around Rysk's premium vs Derive head on.------💎 THIS EPISODE'S SPONSORS🔒 KPK | Best risk-adjusted yield through automated vaults🏙 MAINSTREET | Bringing proven TradFi yield strategies to DeFi markets🟠 APYX | The first dividend-backed stablecoin (DBS)🏦 ALTURA | Bringing the yield institutions kept, to your wallet🕛 NOON | The highest and safest stablecoin yield, built for the long term👻 MANTLE | Aave V3 is live on Mantle🐡 PUFFER INSTITUTIONAL | ETH staking solutions for scale⚔️ KATANA | Deep liquidity & real yield⚙️ GEARBOX PROTOCOL | Onchain lending reimagined------⏱️ TIMESTAMPS0:00 - Intro2:01 - Starting Rysk4:13 - Why DeFi options failed before and what Rysk does differently11:21 - Demo of Rysk cash secured puts15:57 - What market conditions would be more ideal for covered calls?19:24 - Rysk targets a different user than Derive23:36 - Who’s using Rysk?26:57 - Addressing criticisms of Rysk's premium36:40 - What’s next for the Rysk roadmap?42:01 - Closing------🔗 GUEST LINKS► Rysk website: https://rysk.finance/► Rysk on X: https://x.com/ryskfinance► Daniele Ugolini on X: https://x.com/DanDeFiEd------🎙️ MORE FROM THE EDGE PODCAST AND EDGE NEWSLETTER► Newsletter: https://the-edge.xyz► Apple: https://tinyurl.com/edgepod► Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/edgepodspotify► Linktree: https://linktr.ee/edge_pod► Follow DeFi Dad: https://x.com/DeFi_Dad► Follow Nomatic: https://x.com/Nomaticcap► Learn DeFi: http://defidad.com/------DISCLAIMER: Nothing said on The Edge Podcast is a recommendation to buy or sell tokens or securities. This content is for educational and entertainment purposes only. Nothing shared here is financial advice. Any views expressed by hosts or guests on the show are solely their opinions. Always do your own research. DeFi Dad, Nomatic, and guests may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast.
- 2 weeks ago1h 15m
The Alchemix Comeback: Vaults, Fixed Yields, 10x Looping, and Why They've Been Building V3 For Years
Scoopy Trooples is the Founder of Alchemix.Many DeFi protocols from 2021 are gone. But Alchemix never quit.In this episode, Scoopy walks through the full Alchemix V3 redesign: how the new Mix-Yield Token (MYT) creates vaulted yields users can borrow against at 90% LTV, with zero interest, looping up to 10x, and how fixed-term redemptions unlock an entirely new yield primitive. Alchemix was the first protocol to use yield-bearing collateral for loans. V3 looks to be the long overdue evolution of the self-repaying loan, and we think this version can scale to be even bigger than V1.------💎 THIS EPISODE'S SPONSORS🔒 KPK | Best risk-adjusted yield through automated vaults🏙 MAINSTREET | Bringing proven TradFi yield strategies to DeFi markets🟠 APYX | The first dividend-backed stablecoin (DBS)🏦 ALTURA | Bringing the yield institutions kept, to your wallet🕛 NOON | The highest and safest stablecoin yield, built for the long term👻 MANTLE | Aave V3 is live on Mantle🐡 PUFFER INSTITUTIONAL | ETH staking solutions for scale⚔️ KATANA | Deep liquidity & real yield⚙️ GEARBOX PROTOCOL | Onchain lending reimagined------⏱️ TIMESTAMPS0:00 - Intro1:30 - Alchemix V1 and the idea for self-repaying loans6:57 - Lessons from V111:37 - Ideas leading into V316:19 - How Alchemix V1 worked20:47 - V2’s weaknesses24:17 - Overview of three pillars of Alchemix V331:31 - Pillar 1: Mix-Yield Token (MYT), Alchemix's own vaulted yields34:27 - Pillar 2: Synthetic borrowing up to 90% LTV, zero interest, 10x leverage36:39 - Pillar 3: Fixed term redemptions unlocking fixed yield41:16 - Zero interest on debt but what do we pay?42:26 - Liquidation risk in Alchemix V344:11 - Tracking where V3 strategies deploy money45:24 - V2 to V3 migration 46:17 - A new fixed yield primitive49:24 - The tradeoffs of looping in Alchemix V355:19 - Example of how a loan, looping, yield works in V359:07 - What’s a doomsday scenario for V3?1:02:01 - Audits1:06:51 - Could curators be involved in Alchemix V3?1:08:11 - New ALCX tokenomics coming1:13:25 - Closing------🔗 GUEST LINKS► Alchemix website: https://alchemix.fi/► Alchemix on X: https://x.com/alchemixfi► Scoopy Trooples on X: https://x.com/scupytrooples------🎙️ MORE FROM THE EDGE PODCAST AND EDGE NEWSLETTER► Newsletter: https://the-edge.xyz► Apple: https://tinyurl.com/edgepod► Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/edgepodspotify► Linktree: https://linktr.ee/edge_pod► Follow DeFi Dad: https://x.com/DeFi_Dad► Follow Nomatic: https://x.com/Nomaticcap► Learn DeFi: http://defidad.com/------DISCLAIMER: Nothing said on The Edge Podcast is a recommendation to buy or sell tokens or securities. This content is for educational and entertainment purposes only. Nothing shared here is financial advice. Any views expressed by hosts or guests on the show are solely their opinions. Always do your own research. DeFi Dad, Nomatic, and guests may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast.
- 3 weeks ago1h 0m
The $250k ETH Thesis: Why Wall Street Is Betting ETH Beats Gold and Bitcoin
Vivek Raman is Etherealize CoFounder and CEO while Michael McGuiness is an Etherealize Researcher and author of their recent report "Ethereum and The Era of Productive Money."Many have viewed ETH as a technology bet. Etherealize just published a report arguing it's something far more important, better money than BTC and gold, and the first monetary asset in history that actually compounds.In this episode, they break down their $250,000 ETH thesis and why institutions that understand pristine collateral are quietly becoming the biggest ETH bulls.------💎 THIS EPISODE'S SPONSORS🔒 KPK | Best risk-adjusted yield through automated vaults🏙 MAINSTREET | Bringing proven TradFi yield strategies to DeFi markets🟠 APYX | The first dividend-backed stablecoin (DBS)🏦 ALTURA | Bringing the yield institutions kept, to your wallet🕛 NOON | The highest and safest stablecoin yield, built for the long term👻 MANTLE | Aave V3 is live on Mantle🐡 PUFFER INSTITUTIONAL | ETH staking solutions for scale⚔️ KATANA | Deep liquidity & real yield⚙️ GEARBOX PROTOCOL | Onchain lending reimagined------⏱️ TIMESTAMPS0:00 - Intro3:06 - Vivek and Michael’s background on Wall Street5:18 - Core thesis: ETH is better money than BTC or gold10:03 - What is productive money?12:15 - Is Wall Street buying the story of ETH as productive money?16:02 - The institutional crypto bull market18:08 - Three demand drivers for ETH: gas, collateral, and staking20:53 - Why ETH wasn’t reaching its full potential until recently25:20 - What needed to happen in order for ETH to reprice?30:47 - Distribution channels: ETFs, Schwab, Tom Lee32:41 - Bitcoin's security budget problem33:33 - Ethereum’s censorship resistance, decentralization, and predictability39:54 - The path to $250,000 ETH price44:37 - Bitcoin's coordination problem vs Ethereum's shipping velocity46:02 - The Ethereum roadmap and AI accelerating scaling expectations51:43 - Principal risks to the $250k ETH thesis55:37 - What institutions still don’t understand about Ethereum58:19 - What’s Etherealize been working on?58:55 - Closing------🔗 GUEST LINKS► Etherealize website: https://www.etherealize.com/► Productive Money report: https://www.productivemoney.org/► Etherealize on X: https://x.com/etherealize_io► Vivek Raman on X: https://x.com/VivekVentures► Michael McGuiness on X: https://x.com/mikemcg0------🎙️ MORE FROM THE EDGE PODCAST AND EDGE NEWSLETTER► Newsletter: https://the-edge.xyz► Apple: https://tinyurl.com/edgepod► Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/edgepodspotify► Linktree: https://linktr.ee/edge_pod► Follow DeFi Dad: https://x.com/DeFi_Dad► Follow Nomatic: https://x.com/Nomaticcap► Learn DeFi: http://defidad.com/------DISCLAIMER: Nothing said on The Edge Podcast is a recommendation to buy or sell tokens or securities. This content is for educational and entertainment purposes only. Nothing shared here is financial advice. Any views expressed by hosts or guests on the show are solely their opinions. Always do your own research. DeFi Dad, Nomatic, and guests may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast. DeFi Dad and Nomatic are long term holders of ETH.
- 4 weeks ago50 min
The Business of Spark: How Sky's Largest Sub-DAO Is Earning $27.8M In A Bear Market | Revenue Meta
Sam MacPherson is the CoFounder and CEO of Phoenix Labs, the core team behind Spark.Some DeFi protocols are burning through reserves, while others wait for the bull market to save them. Spark is doing neither.In a new episode of our Revenue Meta series, Sam breaks down the business behind Spark and how it's generating $27.8M in projected annual revenue (up from $23M since recording) across four business channels. We discuss what's being done with the $9.6M protocol surplus to better return value to SPK holders through programmatic buybacks and growth initiatives. We also cover the Spark Liquidity Layer managing over $2.3 billion in DeFi, CeFi, and TradFi. Sam has the latest on their upcoming CeDeFi prime brokerage called Spark Prime and what else is in store to get Spark back to earning a projected $80M in annual revenue.------💎 THIS EPISODE'S SPONSORS🔒 KPK | Best risk-adjusted yield through automated vaults🏙 MAINSTREET | Bringing proven TradFi yield strategies to DeFi markets🟠 APYX | The first dividend-backed stablecoin (DBS)🏦 ALTURA | Bringing the yield institutions kept, to your wallet🕛 NOON | The highest and safest stablecoin yield, built for the long term👻 MANTLE | Aave V3 is live on Mantle🐡 PUFFER INSTITUTIONAL | ETH staking solutions for scale⚔️ KATANA | Deep liquidity & real yield⚙️ GEARBOX PROTOCOL | Onchain lending reimagined------⏱️ TIMESTAMPS0:00 - Intro2:10 - Spark x Sky relationship4:03 - Spark products: Spark Savings, Spark Liquidity Layer, SparkLend9:22 - Team and operations behind Spark10:57 - How does Spark make money?13:42 - Spark’s revenue: $23M net returns, $13.6M opex, $9.6M surplus20:06 - How Spark DAO uses protocol surplus to return value to SPK holders22:14 - Spark DAO treasury and SPK buybacks26:56 - Who are Spark’s customers?32:57 - Which Spark product is driving more revenue?35:23 - Does Sky growth create tailwinds for Spark?38:44 - Is Aave’s reputation hit an opportunity for Spark and Sky?41:37 - Growth drivers for Spark next44:03 - Spark Prime, a CeDeFi prime brokerage46:22 - Sam’s growth goals for 202647:53 - Closing------🔗 GUEST LINKS► Spark website: https://spark.fi/► Spark Data Hub: https://data.spark.fi/► Spark Financials: https://data.spark.fi/financials► Spark on X: https://x.com/sparkdotfi► Sam MacPherson on X: https://x.com/hexonaut------🎙️ MORE FROM THE EDGE PODCAST AND EDGE NEWSLETTER► Newsletter: https://the-edge.xyz► Apple: https://tinyurl.com/edgepod► Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/edgepodspotify► Linktree: https://linktr.ee/edge_pod► Follow DeFi Dad: https://x.com/DeFi_Dad► Follow Nomatic: https://x.com/Nomaticcap► Learn DeFi: http://defidad.com/------DISCLAIMER: Nothing said on The Edge Podcast is a recommendation to buy or sell tokens or securities. This content is for educational and entertainment purposes only. Nothing shared here is financial advice. Any views expressed by hosts or guests on the show are solely their opinions. Always do your own research. DeFi Dad, Nomatic, and guests may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast.
- Apr 15, 202647 min
How Saturn Is Tokenizing Michael Saylor's 11.5% STRC Bitcoin Yield for DeFi | DeFi Frontier
Ellis Osborn and Kevin Li are CoFounders of Saturn.This is the first episode in a new series by The Edge Podcast covering emerging DeFi builders. Ellis and Kevin break down how Saturn tokenizes STRC via two onchain assets, USDat and sUSDat. Michael Saylor and his team at Strategy built STRC to pay an 11.5% yield backed by Bitcoin. Saturn is building the DeFi layer on top of this STRC yield.We learn how Saturn's tokenized yield unlocks global access to STRC, higher leverage through the likes of Morpho, yield trading on Pendle, and risk tranching soon through Strata. They share more on why Saylor himself is so excited for what Saturn is working on to distribute STRC yield on Ethereum. We cover why digital credit might be superior to private credit, and how STRC could become "the risk-free rate of onchain finance."------💎 THIS EPISODE'S SPONSORS🔒 KPK | Best risk-adjusted yield through automated vaults🏙 MAINSTREET | Bringing proven TradFi yield strategies to DeFi markets🏦 ALTURA | Bringing the yield institutions kept, to your wallet🕛 NOON | The highest and safest stablecoin yield, built for the long term👻 MANTLE | Aave V3 is live on Mantle🐡 PUFFER INSTITUTIONAL | ETH staking solutions for scale⚔️ KATANA | Deep liquidity & real yield⚙️ GEARBOX PROTOCOL | Onchain lending reimagined------⏱️ TIMESTAMPS0:00 - Intro2:21 - Saturn CoFounders background4:47 - Why build Saturn?6:57 - Why Michael Saylor’s excited for STRC in DeFi10:14 - Three major DeFi use cases for Saturn: looping, Pendle, and tranching14:59 - How does Saturn distribute STRC yield onchain?15:58 - Where does STRC yield come from?17:06 - Why 2-token design with USDat vs sUSDat18:48 - Is USDat a stablecoin?20:56 - How STRC vs USDat peg works24:29 - The opportunity for STRC to grow alongside $1M BTC28:37 - Demand for STRC digital credit will eat into fixed income31:50 - DeFi is starving for a yield like STRC35:43 - Can STRC become the risk-free rate onchain?37:20 - Saturn means 24/7 trading of STRC onchain39:16 - The impact of perps for STRC41:46 - How far could STRC reasonably drop below $100?43:50 - What’s live now on Saturn?45:23 - Closing------🔗 GUEST LINKS► Saturn website: https://saturn.credit/► Saturn on X: https://x.com/saturn_credit► Ellis Osborn on X: https://x.com/ellisp_osborn► Kevin Li on X: https://x.com/kevinlhr88► Nomatic's write-up on STRC: https://www.the-edge.xyz/p/strc-the-birth-of-bitcoin-credit------🎙️ MORE FROM THE EDGE PODCAST AND EDGE NEWSLETTER► Newsletter: https://the-edge.xyz► Apple: https://tinyurl.com/edgepod► Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/edgepodspotify► Linktree: https://linktr.ee/edge_pod► Follow DeFi Dad: https://x.com/DeFi_Dad► Follow Nomatic: https://x.com/Nomaticcap► Learn DeFi: http://defidad.com/------DISCLAIMER: Nothing said on The Edge Podcast is a recommendation to buy or sell tokens or securities. This content is for educational and entertainment purposes only. Nothing shared here is financial advice. Any views expressed by hosts or guests on the show are solely their opinions. Always do your own research. DeFi Dad, Nomatic, and guests may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast. DeFi Dad and Nomatic both have BTC exposure and were angels in Saturn's pre-seed. DeFi Dad and Nomatic do not hold STRC or MSTR.sUSDat is only available to eligible participants outside the United States only.sUSDat holders are currently earning 11.5%+ APY. This is not an offer or solicitation to buy or sell any security in any jurisdiction where prohibited, including to U.S. persons.Nothing in this podcast constitutes investment advice. Yield is not guaranteed and may vary."Backed by Bitcoin" refers to collateral structure only and does not imply capital protection or risk elimination.Saturn's Terms and Conditions https://saturn.credit/legal/terms-conditions
- Apr 7, 20261h 3m
Michael Saylor's BTC-Backed STRC Is Coming For A $300T Market
Chaitanya Jain (CJ) works on the Bitcoin team at Strategy.Most people know Strategy for its outspoken BTC bull Founder Michael Saylor and second, for buying billions in BTC, but more of you ought to learn about the financial instruments they've engineered, backed by BTC as digital capital that appreciates over time.In this episode, CJ breaks down how Strategy’s flagship STRC works, a perpetual preferred stock with a stable $100 price and 11.5% annual yield paid monthly in tax-deferred cash dividends. We dive into the ambitious plans at Strategy to target a $300 trillion fixed income market with STRC and how that could impact the price of BTC long term. We also dive into how DeFi teams are already tokenizing STRC to bring it onchain.------💎 THIS EPISODE'S PARTNERS🔒 KPK | Best risk-adjusted yield through automated vaults🏙 MAINSTREET | Bringing proven TradFi yield strategies to DeFi markets🏦 ALTURA | Bringing the yield institutions kept, to your wallet🕛 NOON | The highest and safest stablecoin yield, built for the long term👻 MANTLE | Aave V3 is live on Mantle🐡 PUFFER INSTITUTIONAL | ETH staking solutions for scale⚔️ KATANA | Deep liquidity & real yield⚙️ GEARBOX PROTOCOL | Onchain lending reimagined------⏱️ TIMESTAMPS0:00 - Intro2:46 - CJ’s background and role at Strategy7:23 - What Strategy actually does with Bitcoin10:40 - Why Strategy chose to offer perpetual preferred equity14:58 - Which Strategy instrument is most senior?16:44 - How AI helped design Strategy instruments19:18 - What is STRC? Stable price, 11.5% yield, monthly dividends23:23 - Where does STRC yield actually come from?26:14 - ATM program for raising capital to buy more BTC29:21 - How does STRC enable Strategy to accumulate BTC in the bear36:49 - STRC could serve $300T fixed income market + the impact on BTC41:48 - Difference between MSTR vs STRC investors44:36 - Who is buying STRC right now?47:04 - Teams tokenizing STRC for DeFi51:41 - What are the real risks for STRC?55:00 - Would Strategy ever sell BTC?57:50 - Why STRC is Strategy’s “iPhone moment”1:01:55 - Closing------🔗 GUEST LINKS► Strategy website: https://strategy.com/► Strategy on X: https://x.com/strategy► CJ on X: https://x.com/cj_bitcoin► Nomatic's write-up on STRC: https://www.the-edge.xyz/p/strc-the-birth-of-bitcoin-credit------🎙️ MORE FROM THE EDGE PODCAST AND EDGE NEWSLETTER► Newsletter: https://the-edge.xyz► Apple: https://tinyurl.com/edgepod► Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/edgepodspotify► Linktree: https://linktr.ee/edge_pod► Follow DeFi Dad: https://x.com/DeFi_Dad► Follow Nomatic: https://x.com/Nomaticcap► Learn DeFi: http://defidad.com/------DISCLAIMER: Nothing said on The Edge Podcast is a recommendation to buy or sell tokens or securities. This content is for educational and entertainment purposes only. Nothing shared here is financial advice. Any views expressed by hosts or guests on the show are solely their opinions. Always do your own research. DeFi Dad, Nomatic, and guests may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast. DeFi Dad and Nomatic both have BTC exposure.
- Mar 31, 20261h 3m
Why Katana Is Not An L2, It's A DeFi Super App
Matthew Fisher is CEO of Katana.Many L2s have launched, hoping the apps show up. Katana is taking a different approach, building apps itself and designing the economic engine from day one to make this all possible.In this episode, Matthew breaks down how vaultbridge assets like vbETH and vbUSDT redirect real yield from Ethereum Mainnet to active DeFi participants on Katana, why they acquired the team behind IDEX to launch Katana Perps, and their roadmap to onboard major liquidity from CEXs like OKX and fintechs like Revolut who can route liquidity through Katana for yield.------💎 THIS EPISODE'S PARTNERS🔒 KPK | Best risk-adjusted yield through automated vaults🏙 MAINSTREET | Bringing proven TradFi yield strategies to DeFi markets🏦 ALTURA | Bringing the yield institutions kept, to your wallet🕛 NOON | The highest and safest stablecoin yield, built for the long term🌅 NEUTRL | The next generation of crypto-native yield🛡️ ACCOUNTABLE | Real-time financial verification👻 MANTLE | Aave V3 is live on Mantle🐡 PUFFER INSTITUTIONAL | ETH staking solutions for scale⚙️ GEARBOX PROTOCOL | Onchain lending reimagined------⏱️ TIMESTAMPS0:00 - Intro2:04- Matthew’s background in DeFi6:24 - Katana’s origin story10:25 - vbTokens and why yield goes to DeFi participants, not holders12:00 - How the vaultbridge actually works with Morpho on Ethereum17:38 - Vitalik’s L2 comments and Ethereum alignment21:50 - How Katana can win over users as a DeFi hub25:12 - IDEX acquisition and Katana Perps launch28:06 - 5 revenue-generating businesses for one network30:55 - Built for both retail and institutions32:51 - ve(3,3) flywheel at the network level on Katana44:35 - KAT vs vKAT vs avKAT48:08 - OKX Earn and Binance programs powered by Katana52:29 - Katana’s endgame to tap into fintech liquidity54:32 - Why Katana is strategically aligned with Polygon59:20 - What Matthew's most excited for in 6-12 months1:01:26 - Closing------🔗 GUEST LINKS► Katana website: https://katana.network/► Katana on X: https://x.com/katana► Katana Perps website: https://perps.katana.network/► Katana Perps on X: https://x.com/katanaperps► Matthew on X: https://x.com/mfisher10x------🎙️ MORE FROM THE EDGE PODCAST AND EDGE NEWSLETTER► Newsletter: https://the-edge.xyz► Apple: https://tinyurl.com/edgepod► Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/edgepodspotify► Linktree: https://linktr.ee/edge_pod► Follow DeFi Dad: https://x.com/DeFi_Dad► Follow Nomatic: https://x.com/Nomaticcap► Learn DeFi: http://defidad.com/------DISCLAIMER: Nothing said on The Edge Podcast is a recommendation to buy or sell tokens or securities. This content is for educational and entertainment purposes only. Nothing shared here is financial advice. Any views expressed by hosts or guests on the show are solely their opinions. Always do your own research. DeFi Dad, Nomatic, and guests may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast. DeFi Dad earned ~$500 of KAT in the airdrop and voluntarily staked it as avKAT in a demo edited into the pod. Katana has been a sponsor of The Edge Podcast but we do not accept paid guest slots. We believe Katana has an interesting story given its use of vbAssets and ve(3,3) mechanics at the network level.
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