Episode 33: No More Monkeys: Joe and Olga with Rudi Gesch

What do you do if your toddler’s special talent is jumping on and off furniture? Our guest Rudi Gesch put his own spin on the old nursery rhyme in “No More Monkeys,” a book that feels like a reassuring hug for parents who are horrified by their kids’ propensity for risky play. His science is solid too, as he partnered with an eminent evolutionary psychologist Peter Gray, who makes a cameo appearance in the book. Tune in as we talk about risky play and caution,  a surprising way to help young children unwind before bed and the kind of football training that promotes the development of leadership, initiative and confidence (OK, Rudi, "soccer practice"!).