
Robbie Mitchnick is Managing Director and Global Head of Digital Assets at BlackRock — the world's largest asset manager. He led the launch of IBIT, the most successful ETF in Wall Street history. Now BlackRock has launched BITA, a covered call Bitcoin product targeting high teens yield while retaining 70% of Bitcoin's upside. Bitcoin Treasuries President and The Bitcoin Historian Pete Rizzo joins Tyler Rowe for the full conversation. They cover the IBIT inflow and outflow data, the hodler thesis ($48B of IBIT's $50B drop was Bitcoin's price, not outflows), why Bitcoin's narrative was badly mismanaged, the machine native money thesis, the debt and deficit catalyst, and why BlackRock now says the question isn't whether Bitcoin is too risky — it's whether it's risky not to hold any. Follow Robbie: https://twitter.com/@RMitchnick Follow Pete: https://twitter.com/@pete_rizzo_ 🎟️ Bitcoin Treasuries Conference — September 28, New York City Save 10% on tickets: https://bit.ly/4f1kGV5 CHAPTERS: 00:00 Cold Open 01:48 IBIT 2.5 Years In - Smashing ETF Records 07:15 IBIT Investors Are Hardcore HODLers 08:41 Bitcoin Portfolio Guidance 12:42 Demand For Institutional BTC Exposure 14:01 Bitcoin Yield & Investor Profiles 16:05 Bitcoin ETFs vs Strategy or Strive 17:37 Demand For Derivatives & Volatility 20:54 Onshoring BTC Options Market 22:22 BITA vs STRC, SATA & Digital Credit 23:14 What Robbie Thinks About Saylor's Strategy 24:43 How Larry Fink Evolved On Bitcoin 27:28 BTC Narrative Problems & Debt, Deficit & AI 37:03 BTC Infrastructure Maturity 39:10 BlackRock's Roadmap & Restraint 41:33 Tokenization & The Broader Ecosystem 44:05 When Does Crypto Cross The Chasm? 45:26 Is It Risky To NOT Hold Bitcoin? 47:37 Robbie's Message To The Institutional Skeptics 48:38 Stay Orange 🏛️ Institutional custody & OTC at bit.ly/bitGo 🔒 Secure your Bitcoin with COLDCARD — use code 6BT for 6% off at bit.ly/coinkiteStore 🏦 Borrow against your BTC from 8.49% at bit.ly/archlending 💼 Bitcoin executive recruitment at bit.ly/XCEio ⚡️ Bitcoin yield without leaving custody at bit.ly/hemiXYZ 📊 Track every Bitcoin treasury company at bitcointreasuries.net ⚠️ Not financial advice. Do your own research. 🟠 Stay Orange.
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