The Beyond Tomorrow Podcast with Julian Issa

DAVID EAGLEMAN: The END of Human Presidents is COMING. Should We Worry?

September 10, 2026·45 min
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Could an AI actually run the country better than a person could?This episode is brought to you by AgelessRx, where aging becomes a puzzle that can be solved. The mission is to help you live longer and healthier by adding more life to your years through science-backed solutions and personalized care. Learn more at http://agelessrx.com/beyond-tomorrowDavid Eagleman doesn't shy away from the question. He lays out the case for an AI president, one that could crunch more data than any human cabinet, sidestep the ego and grudges that shape so many political decisions, and maybe even out-think our worst instincts.Sounds great, until you ask the harder questions. Who writes the code that decides what "the greater good" means? Can a machine actually be moral, or just really good at faking it? And if an AI ever did hold real power, who's holding the leash?We get into all of it: democracy, tribalism, consciousness, and how close we actually are to AGI. David doesn't pretend to have it all figured out but he makes a compelling case that the ground is shifting faster than most of us realize.David Eagleman is a neuroscientist at Stanford University and an internationally bestselling author. He is co-founder of several neurotech companies, including Jojo, BrainCheck, and Neosensory, and he also directs the Center for Science and Law, a national non-profit institute. He is best known for his work on sensory substitution, time perception, brain plasticity, synesthesia, and neurolaw.⏱ Timestamps00:00 Intro00:05 Are We in the Middle of AGI?03:26 AI’s Greatest Advantage04:25 The Case for a Utilitarian AI President07:16 Who Defines AI’s Parameters?09:06 The Danger of Politically Biased AI11:49 Behind the Scenes12:33 Are We Ready for an AI President?14:41 What Should an AI Government Optimize For?18:31 How Soon Could We Have an AI President?22:24 The Trolley Problem and AI Morality27:54 What Happens When Humans Have Too Much Free Time?29:07 The Neuroscience of Tribalism30:13 The Neural Basis of Empathy31:24 Why We’re Wired for Us vs. Them32:43 Can AI Become Conscious?33:51 Could AI Eradicate Humanity?35:51 Artificial Wisdom and AI Guardrails38:57 AGI Is Already Happening41:22 An AI President in Our Lifetime43:26 The Biggest Fear About AIConnect with David: Website: https://eagleman.com/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/David.M.Eagleman LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/davideagleman/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/davideagleman X: https://x.com/davideagleman TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@drdavideagleman Connect with JulianInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thebeyondtomorrowpodcast/  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/juliankissa/  LinkedIn: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/julian-issa  Website: <a href="http://www.beyondtomorrowpodcast.com" rel="ugc noop

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