
What happens when the technology we build becomes smarter than the people who built it?This episode is brought to you by AgelessRx, where aging becomes a puzzle that can be solved. The mission is to help you live longer and healthier by adding more life to your years through science-backed solutions and personalized care. Learn more at http://agelessrx.com/beyond-tomorrowAI safety researcher Roman Yampolskiy argues the real danger isn't AI, it's building a superintelligence we can no longer control. His case: solve problems with narrow, powerful tools instead, and still get breakthroughs in medicine, science, and productivity, without that risk.The conversation covers AGI, recursive self-improvement, the singularity, and the existential and "suffering" risks they raise, plus what mass automation could mean for work and purpose.From international AI agreements to human longevity, one question runs through it all: can we get the benefits of advanced AI without losing control of it? Yampolskiy's answer: keep building tools, not our replacement.Roman Yampolskiy is an AI safety researcher and professor who studies the risks and implications of artificial intelligence. His work focuses on the challenge of controlling increasingly capable AI systems and the potential consequences of superintelligence.Roman’s book, AI: Unexplainable, Unpredictable, Uncontrollable, explores the various reasons why the field is so challenging.⏱ Timestamps00:00 Intro00:43 Can We Build AI By Design to Avoid Catastrophe?01:49 AI Superintelligence Is a Death Sentence03:12 What Is AGI, Really?04:26 OpenAI's Plan to Build an Internal AGI04:59 Why Superintelligence Won't Care About Us06:45 We're Going to Die Anyway... So What?07:06 We Can't Control Something This Advanced07:55 The Narrow Tools That Avoid AGI09:34 The US vs China AI Race10:47 Does China Actually Want to Stop AGI?11:53 AGI Is a Spectrum, Not a Switch12:22 Is Roman Selling the Doom Narrative?14:13 How to Stop AGI From Escaping the Box16:26 Building AI We Can't Control18:05 Suffering Risks: The Worst-Case Scenario20:09 The Two Types of Jobs22:09 What Happens to the 90% Who Lose Their Jobs?23:46 Nothing Makes AI Labs Stop24:26 Building Something You Can't Control26:06 Do You Believe in God?29:28 Longevity Escape Velocity Without AGI30:55 Is Suffering Necessary for the Human Story?31:33 Are We Living in a Simulation?32:12 You Can't Control Superintelligence33:24 Is Our Life a Simulation?35:05 Curing Aging With Narrow AI Tools36:10 What Is an NPC?36:37 Could Humans Cause Doom Before AI Does?37:21 How to Break Out of a Simulation39:14 Would You Live Forever in a Simulation?40:01 Don't Build Superintelligence41:50 Bostrom's Singleton Theory43:17 "AI Is Massively Overhyped"44:56 Would AI Doom Be Worse Than World War 3?45:41 Who Should You Actually Be Listening To?47:43 What Would a Perfect Simulation Look Like?50:52 Solving Longevity Without AI52:03 Our Limited Understanding of Human Biology52:40 What Makes Roman Happy?53:48 Signs Governments Are Waking Up55:14 "Is AI Just a Con?"56:53 Can Squirrels Control Humans?58:27 Decide What to Do With Your Time59:22 What About Ilya Sutskever?01:00:13 The Responsible Use of Technology01:00:46 If Tomorrow is Your Last Day...Connect with Roman: Website: https://www.romanyampolskiy.com/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/roman.yampolskiy/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/romanyam/ X: https://x.com/romanyam Connect with JulianInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thebeyondtomorrowpodcast/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/juliankissa
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