The ABMP Podcast | Speaking With the Massage & Bodywork Profession

Ep 597 – Meet the Researchers: Word Matters with Anna Gabriella

September 29, 2026·23 min
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Release. Adhesions. Breaking things up. Some of the words we use every day in massage make claims we can't always back up. But what if being honest about what we don't know made our work more credible, not less? In this Meet the Researchers episode, Rachelle talks with Dr. Anna Gabriel, a physiotherapist and fascia researcher studying non-local effects—how an intervention at the foot can create measurable changes elsewhere along the posterior chain. But observing a change isn't the same as knowing why it happened. Dr. Gabriel offers a refreshingly simple approach: say what you did, say what you observed, and don't claim a mechanism you didn't measure. Join Nicole and Rachelle for a conversation about scientific precision, the language of massage therapy, professional credibility, and why we don't need to have all the answers to do meaningful work. Resources and Author links:   LAB COURSE: Journey into the MATRIX www.anatomyscapes.com/MATRIX for more information about "Journey Into the MATRIX: the Fascial System" dissection lab workshop.   LAB COURSE: Dissection Lab Intensive ​​https://www.anatomyscapes.com/DLI for more information about the "Dissection Lab Intensive" lab workshop.  Check out the Anatomy for Touch column in the Massage & Bodywork magazine at https://www.abmp.com/massage-and-bodywork-magazine/anatomy Check out some of Dr. Anna Gabriel's Research: Testing the Posterior Chain: Diagnostic Accuracy of the Bunkie Test versus the Isokinetic Hamstrings/Quadriceps Measurement in Patients with Self-Reported Knee Pain and Healthy Controls Myofascial Treatment Techniques on the Plantar Surface Inf

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