Shifting Mindsets with Charly Cox

In this episode of Straight Talking Sustainability, Emma welcomes Charly Cox, Executive Director of Climate Change Coaches and a pioneer in the field of climate coaching. Together, they explore the psychological aspects of driving sustainable change in organizations, the unique challenges faced by sustainability professionals, and practical strategies for overcoming barriers to effective climate action.Charlie Cox's journey from coaching in West Africa to leading a team of climate coaches 01:01The psychological barriers to action in climate and sustainability work 02:00Why being a good leader is often more important than having large budgets in sustainability projects 03:21The "stuck" feeling experienced by many sustainability professionals, and the overwhelming scope of their roles 06:37The technical vs. people/communications skills required for effectiveness in sustainability roles 07:04The organizational challenges: lack of executive sponsorship and belief leadership 07:54The importance of coaching skills for sustainability professionals—especially introverts 10:12How climate change coaching differs from general business coaching 11:25Dealing with existential dread, burnout, and organizational contempt 12:27The power of using strengths-based and asset-based coaching approaches 17:31Shifting the identity from “knowledge holder” to “thought partner” 19:48Why self-regulation and deep listening are key for influencing others 18:06Strategies for maintaining belief and hope in the face of setbacks 14:20Insights into the Green Transition Coach course and its modules (building ecosystems, challenging mindsets, working with barriers, emotional regulation, and building ownership) 25:00The risks of becoming subservient or stuck in "servant mode" 27:43Mindset shifts, overcoming imposter syndrome, and changing organizational perspectives 31:05Practical communication tactics for influencing stakeholders and navigating difficult conversations 32:24Tips for making change appealing: make it familiar, reversible, and easy 47:41Key TakeawaysSustainability is a people-centered job: Technical skills are important, but communication, influence, and psychological insight are critical for success.Belief leadership matters: Executive sponsorship must translate to active participation, not merely delegating responsibility to underpowered teams.Coaching skills enable action: Learning to ask powerful questions and adopting a strengths-based approach helps "stuck" professionals and organizations move forward.You don't need to be the font of all knowledge: Focusing on being a “thought partner” and building organizational belief in change is more effective than relying solely on technical expertise.Make change accessible: Breaking actions into small, reversible, and familiar steps can help overcome overwhelm—both for sustainability professionals and organizational decision makers.Find out more about Charlie and Climate Change CoachesLighthouse Sustainability and the Beacon newsletterIf you enjoyed this episode, please share it, rate, and review to help others find the podcast. For more straight-talking sustainability advice, subscribe to the show and join us next week!Book a Power Hour with Emma https://calendly.com/emma-lighthouse/power-hourConnect with EmmaWebsiteEmailEmma Burlow | LinkedIn