Ada Palmer on Inventing the Renaissance: How Golden & Dark Ages Are Constructed and Why They Matter

Was the Renaissance truly a Golden Age? Or was it something far more powerful — and far more revealing? In my third conversation with Ada Palmer, we dive into her new book, Inventing the Renaissance: Myths of a Golden Age, and dismantle one of the most enduring myths in Western history: that civilization moves cleanly from darkness to light. This is our third long-form discussion. If you’re new to our conversations, I highly recommend revisiting our earlier interviews here and here, which lay the groundwork for this one. But this episode isn’t really about the Renaissance. It’s about how societies construct Golden Ages and Dark Ages — and how those narratives shape power, legitimacy, and the future. The Renaissance Was Framed, Not Found “Renaissance” means rebirth. But rebirth implies death. To celebrate a Golden Age, you must first invent a Dark Age. As Ada explains, these labels were not objective descriptions. They were rhetorical tools — created by Petrarch, humanists, political actors, and later historians to legitimize their present by reshaping the past. Golden Ages are not natural phenomena. They are narratives. And narratives confer power. Why This Still Matters We do this today. We speak of: The Age of AI The End of Democracy Civilizational Collapse The Fourth Industrial Revolution Utopia and dystopia are modern versions of Golden and Dark Ages. In my essay Ignorance Is the Greatest Evil, I argue that certainty fused with power is more dangerous than malice. Golden Age narratives often operate with precisely that certainty — simplifying complexity into moral clarity. But history is rarely simple. The Renaissance itself was violent, unstable, and deeply unequal — even as it produced extraordinary art and ideas. It was neither purely Golden nor purely Dark. It was human. Manifestos, Dilemmas, and the Future Years ago, I wrote a transhumanist manifesto. It was confident, clear, and certain. Later, I returned to doubt. In Transhumanist Manifestos and Dilemmas, I reflected on how manifestos mobilize action but often erase complexity. Golden Age narratives function the same way: they inspire and legitimize — but they also oversimplify. Ada’s work does not replace one myth with another. It teaches us to question every myth — including the one we may believe we are living in now. The Real Question Are we progressing? Or are we narrating progress? Is AI our Renaissance — or will future historians label this era differently? Golden and Dark Ages are not objective states of civilization. They are constructed lenses. And once those lenses become embedded in institutions, technologies, and political movements, they stop being stories and start shaping reality. That is why they matter. Listen to our full 3-hour conversation. Then ask yourself: Who is framing our present as a Golden Age — or a Dark Age — and to what end? You can watch the full video here: https://www.singularityweblog.com/ada-palmer-inventing-the-renaissance/